MDAI + MMAI mix?

[dylesid]

Hi there,

Can't find anything on the Web. Is mixing MDAI + MMAI will have any success? Is it make any sense at all?
If not, how to mix MMAI, because I know how to mix MDAI (MDPV and similar would be good) already.

Greetings,
Dylesid

 

[tomtom73]

both (MMAI and MDAI) are selective serotonin releasing agents (SSRA), so why do you want to combine that?

 

[dylesid]

both (MMAI and MDAI) are selective serotonin releasing agent (SSRA), so why do you want to combine that?

I am little bit an ignorant. I was thinking, that maybe there will be some kind synergy, a mean I will feel MDAI stronger with combining with MMAI...

 

[tomtom73]

i assume, that you get the same increase in MDAI strength, if you combine it with some more MDAI ;-)

 

[Venrak]

If you wish to combine these, start with less than half a dose of each. Try a third of each to be on the safe side; you don't need to be getting SS.

 

[Incunabula]

This is'nt really my territory, but I think you would want to combine MMAI or MDAI with something more stimulating, because they both increase levels of serotonin, and not dopamine. I mean, this is the difference between MDMA and MDAI, simply put. Correct me if I'm wrong somybody.

It seems to me that people are combining MDAI with stimulants like MPA, Camphetamine, 2 or 4 FA, or cathinones like ethcat, Buphedrone, Butylone etc. or MDPV as you already mention. So this would probably also be a good mix for MMAI.

Combining MDAI and MMAI is probably kind of pointless.

Be sure to read up on any new chemical before trying something new, and be sure to try it as it is, before mixing it with MMAI.

 

[tomtom73]

curiosity killed the cat:

i tried MDAI (80mg, oral) and MMAI (15mg, oral) yesterday night:
it felt very dreamy and even a bit sedated, empathy was quite good and as expected, i could not really sleep...

imho, very similar to 150-180mg MDAI, not much of a difference.

 

[cannibalsnail]

I seriously doubt MMAI is even available. Looks a bitch to synth and its another SRA like MDAI which seemingly no-one but me appreciates.

 

[any major dude]

MDAI does have its fans, and it really shines in combination with DA/NE releasers/reuptake inhibitors. However combining 2 5-HT releasers probably isn't going to have any synergystic effects. It will however, release more 5-HT.

 

[dylesid]

OK, everything is more clear now.

One more question, what about dosage od MMAI - surpassingly there are no vivid information in the Internet...

 

[tomtom73]

for me a standard dose is 20mg, low dose 10-15, high dose 25-40mg. i would not rely on that, since people are different. though i experiment quite a lot, i do not have much of a tolerance. maybe it's because i keep switching between tryptamines and phenetylamins/stims and have two or three weeks without anything at least once every two months.

 

[cannibalsnail]

OK now my curiosity is piqued. Could you give a rough ratio of MDAI:MMAI dosages? Do they feel similar? Is MMAI more of stimulant?

I love MDAI (mixed with 2-FMA) but the price is pretty steep.

 

[Section813]

for me a standard dose is 20mg, low dose 10-15, high dose 25-40mg. i would not rely on that, since people are different. though i experiment quite a lot, i do not have much of a tolerance. maybe it's because i keep switching between tryptamines and phenetylamins/stims and have two or three weeks without anything at least once every two months.

Are you saying that a full dose of mmai is only 40mgs? Would that be equivalent to a 100mg dose of mdai?

 

[tomtom73]

i could imagine, that effects might be stronger at about 80mg, but i did not try this, because there is very little information about it available, and i tend to be on the safe side. i also read (have to look for the source), that MMAI was a weak MAO-A (not -B) inhibitor. i would start with a low dose and see how it works out for you. for me 40mg felt pretty much like 100-150mg of MDAI, there is a more pronounced insomnia and alertness with MMAI, MDAI feels more dreamy an sedative to me.