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twitchy_15

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well when i first started doing mdma it was great and the high was always predictable and always good .

lately i think its mda from what ive searched... but the high is strange not as strong... not a great peak when you take more you dont get much higher really... the pills seem to hit you randomly ?? and your pupils and jaw effects dont show up right away like with mdma ?

can anybody give me more information on mda \

how can you know its mda by effects ? is mda more dangerous ??
 
well im not an expert but I have done mdma/mda a fair amount of times and I believe i can tell the difference by now.

when i take mdma i get a really chilled out, comfortable kind of high that can sometimes turn so intense that you cant stand up. I feel REALLY really good and my eyes are jittering like mad, i cant stop thinking about how much i love everyone and how amazing everything is and how much i dont ever want to come down.

when i take mda i feel a bit more energetic, to the point where i dont feel the need to just lay down and chill out with friends on a comfy couch. youre right, my pupils dont dilate till later on MDA. The high is longer as well, it goes like this for me

pop pill,
come up in 45mins
feel pretty good, happy, but not particularly "in love with everything"
the good feeling goes away a little bit and then everything starts looking trippy as hell. (one time I was really mashed and I was trying to rememember if i had somehow taken mushrooms one night when i had done MDA for the first time without knowing)
4 hours later, pupils still big, still feeling fairly good, everything looks slightly trippy.

I dont think MDA is particularly worse for you, definitely havent noticed a worse comedown from it. I tihnk MDA vs MDMA is really a personal choice, too bad MDA is commonly sold as MDMA.......

wish dealers would KNOW THEIR SHIT.
 
It is very difficult to try and guess a drug you took based on effects in many circumstances; a testing kit would narrow it down a lot however. Although I've never
used MDA, from what I read, it has even more of a push than MDMA, more bodily euphoria due to increased dopaminergic activity and of course more visual distortions
due to increased 5HT2A receptor agonism, but it is less empathogenic I believe due to decreased 5HT1A agonism. MDA is more neurotoxic than MDMA due to its
pharmacokinetics. i.c.v. (directly into the brain) administration of MDMA was shown to not be neurotoxic in rats, so a neurotoxic metabolite of MDMA must be formed in the periphery. In the liver, this happens: MDMA --> MDA --> alpha-methyldopamine which is then conjugated with glutathione then oxidized to its 0-quinone to form
2,5-Bis-(glutathion-S-yl)-alpha-methyldopamine, which has been shown to be neurotoxic in rats (TPH, serotonin depletion analogous to MDMA). Because taking MDA
skips that first metabolic step, more of the actual neurotoxic metabolite is formed increasing brain damage.
 
Here, I'll simplify it for you:


MDMA, as you know, is a typical strong, consistent high for ~3-5 hours, fairly chill if it's pure, colors and everything will be more vibrant and deep but no real open eye visuals to speak of. You also just feel super loved up, "I love this world, I love being alive, I love my friends, I love this place, I want to change the world, I want to make plans" etc..

MDA, takes slightly longer to hit, and I feel that it comes more in waves as opposed to one consistent euphoric high. For example you'll get an initial big rush of euphoria, feel great for about 20 minutes, and suddenly you're like "Wait what? I'm coming down? What's this? It's wearing off alrea......whoooaaaaa no it's not!!!!!!" and wham! another huge rush. It's also very visual, patterns crawl and move, objects distort slightly, clouds in the sky swirl around, everything looks awesome. It's also very speedy on it's own, you feel super energetic and talkative and you want to move move move. I also find the euphoria is not as loved up as MDMA, which doesn't by any means say it's less enjoyable. It's slightly more of an inward euphoria, like "Oh, I feel so good, I'm awesome, I can do anything, I feel great" etc.. The euphoria wears off around the same time you'd expect MDMA to wear off, possibly slightly longer, however the trippyness and visuals persist for a good ~8-12 hours! Basically a candyflip in one.

Both are great!
 
How often are you using? If your not spacing out your rolls then no matter how much your going to take your not going to feel as high as you used to. MDA always feels like MDMA's big brother - it doesn't have the empathy of MDMA but the visuals and push/energy is a lot stronger. I love MDA for clubbing and used to take it quite often at Techno / Gabba parties when the crowd inst all about dayglow clothing/kandi and hugging each other etc.
 
dude your experience sounds exactly like mine.. and i know my dealer is a friend and hes selling me this shit saying its mdma, mda is not for me.... ive been considering not doing it anymore cause the high is so much gayer for me..

and yeah mdma i pop 40mins pupilss dilate and i love everything , so happy feel great at peace with the world just like unbelievable feeling..

mda i feel like i dont get as high ? i still open up to people but its not the same at all i find and yeah.. things like jaw clenching unable to pee and pupils dont show up til way later in the night ? very strange
 
this sounds exactly what ive been experiencing... the high is so unpredictable and i really dont like that. for me i dont want any visuals nothing trippy...

thats why i love mdma its a clean nice loving high your in control but you feel good. just a real piss off been buying this shit thinking its mdma defineately gunna buy a testing kit ... but yeah what you described about it taking longer and coming in waves thats been happening and i thought it was just bad m... cause usually just pop 40 mins and its one huge rush that slowly goes down but lately it takes forever you get pretty high then feel like you come down ... and the high never feels quite significant for me like mdma high does. never had visuals tho..
 
well bearlove the thing is, went to a tiesto concert and from what im reading believe it was defineately mda.. so just like bluelighter said the high came in waves so i kept taking more cause i was like must be bad m, my friends took some to and it wasn't even hitting them ( just taking longer then usual )

so i ended up taking 3 in like 2 and half hrs and was a disgusting way to high bad feeling so i stoped for 6 months.. and first time doing it again... wasn't good at all.. so its not really that im doing it alot i do believe its mda and i just dont like it :S ?
 
Personally i loved getting fucking mashed on MDA if i'm going to see a DJ or better yet at a festival, obviously I don't do it that often, maybe once very 5 months i'll drop quater gram of powder mda+mdma and let all hell break loose. The energy combined with euphoria after you come up, whilst dancing with a load of people who are all going nuts is the best feeling, such unity. Also the trippy comedown of mda doesn't hit you as quickly nor as hard as mdma. I also enjoy taking low doses of mdma for partys and more social events.
 
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In my experienced MDA is fun but not as fun or strong as MDMA. MDA is way more visual and more of a hallucinogen compared to MDMA, and doesn't have as much of a lovey experience as MDMA.
 
I was always under the impression that mda was stronger than mdma cause u don't need as high a dose of mda cause its more potent. I have some mda and was gona mix with mdma on newyears eve. How many mg should I mix of each together. I usually drop a 200mg capsule of mdma which technically is 150 cause its 76% pure. Should I do 100mg each or 125 mdma and 75 mda? The best roll of my life came from a glady and that was a combo of the 2. I've never had the eye wiggles besides that pill so I'm hoping a dose of the 2 combined can give me my damn eye wigs again.
 
If it were me I would do half and half mix of mda and mdma. I'd do 150mg then 75mg an hour later. If it all goes well say you drop at 10pm you'll still be partying at 4am, so long as you haven't dropped in a while and have some beers towards the end of your roll.
 
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well even though what you guys have described sounds just like my experience, the high was WAY crappier then mdma, i was expecting the mdma high... so i just thought wow this is really shitty mdma.. yeah it did get fairly intense at times but not like mdma.

plus i did not haullcinate at alll
 
I think MDA is best when you actually combine it with MDMA. The sweet-spot for me is about 1:2 ratio, MDA:MDMA. Standard for me is 50mg:100mg, and it's pretty intense.

The MDA does give a similar euphoria, and for me it acts quite a bit speedier. Much more of a "I want to get up and go do something active", than a classic " just want to sit here and feel my face" you would get from MDMA. MDA also dehydrates in a similar fashion, so just be aware of that.
 
Low dose MDA isn't that pleasant in my opinion, I GENERALLY have to exceed 200mg to feel positive effects. I actually like the weird feeling of the high a bit more than MDMA, it feels less neurotoxic on the ol noggin after a long night. When I'm up all night from MDMA, I feel horrible towards the come-down.

I haven't seen MDA around my area at all lately, its wild some of you think people are passing it off as Molly? I find that strange..
 
If you want to hallucinate you need a substantial amount of it and some weed. I've had full on morphing objects on it, but it can get scary on a comedown when you close your eyes.
 
Yeah MDA for me, the one time I got to probably a gram the first time I tried it (spread out over the entire night), got very intense at one point where I was looking into the dark forest we were sitting above on this bridge, craziest thing ever, and the shapes of the lights I looked at would appear in the darkness and literally be dancing. So crazy. I also thought snorting MDA gave you an more intense high with a shorter duration that was a little more difficult to handle (walking slow etc.), and when you ingest it or parachute it, the high was more prolonged and came in waves.
 
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