Hello all! First post on the bluelight forums, and I've come with a question pertaining to an upcoming festival I'm sure some of you are attending... EDC Las Vegas! The three drugs in my arsenal aside from the usual are : MDA, MDMA, and 25i. I am very familiar with the truth of needing to space out MDMA because of the serotonin depletion, but I am unsure about the situation with the other two... Could I use each one on separate days? (Mainly MDMA then next MDA or vice-versa, since I know 25i is completely different) Could MDA or 25i be used back-to-back? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated... Thanks!
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Folley
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MDA should be treated the same as MDMA, taking longer breaks than normal if anything.
25i seems to have a LOT more tolerance than classic psyches and has some hefty cross tolerance with MDMA and other drugs, so a week minimum and two weeks to get the full effects should probably be taken. I'd say that rule applies for most drugs though, just to be safe.
25i seems to have a LOT more tolerance than classic psyches and has some hefty cross tolerance with MDMA and other drugs, so a week minimum and two weeks to get the full effects should probably be taken. I'd say that rule applies for most drugs though, just to be safe.
Clocktower
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MDMA and MDA are cross tolerant so using them so close together will mean a more severe comedown- especially since MDA is even more neurotoxic than MDMA.
Clocktower
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Methylone is (probably) less neurotoxic than MDMA, but it is also cross tolerant so you're looking at a similar story. Two-daying methylone would be less harsh than MDMA, but it's still frowned upon when it comes to HR.
Rolling on consecutive days (or even weeks) isn't recommended because after the first day, much of your brain's serotonin has been depleted. Your brain may try to replace it with dopamine, which opens the door for neurotoxic effects (check out dancesafe for more info). It may not be what you want to hear, but many of us choose just one day to roll at a multi-day festival. On the other days, you might just enjoy the music or take some other drugs (LSD, mushrooms, 2C's, and ketamine are popular). 25I may be worthwhile if dosed carefully (meaning low) but as Folley mentioned people report more cross tolerance from it than from other psychs. It's also less well known, less predictable, and less safe, so you gotta be careful with it.
Rolling on consecutive days (or even weeks) isn't recommended because after the first day, much of your brain's serotonin has been depleted. Your brain may try to replace it with dopamine, which opens the door for neurotoxic effects (check out dancesafe for more info). It may not be what you want to hear, but many of us choose just one day to roll at a multi-day festival. On the other days, you might just enjoy the music or take some other drugs (LSD, mushrooms, 2C's, and ketamine are popular). 25I may be worthwhile if dosed carefully (meaning low) but as Folley mentioned people report more cross tolerance from it than from other psychs. It's also less well known, less predictable, and less safe, so you gotta be careful with it.
Mazzab
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Viva Las Vegas!
xx001
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If you have mda, mdma, methylone, I would advise you to just pick one, preferably either mdma or mda depending on what you are in the mood for. Save the rest for another time. It is generally advised to wait 2 months between rolls for reasons of both safety and efficacy. The 25i-nbome works differently but does produce a strong tolerance with other psychedelics. If you want to trip on something else as well(including mda), take the other drug first, and then the 25i on a later day to minimize the complications from tolerance. It is also probably wise to not mix 25i with other drugs, especially other phenethylamines, as to minimize the potential complications from vasoconstriction.