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Mda after mdma
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TryptamineBunny
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According to Shulgin, the two are not cross tolerant. This implies you would get the full effect from the MDA. Not sure this is advisable however.
avcpl
Bluelighter
here is his quote and source:
"The measure of the degree of tolerance that can be shared between different drugs, called cross-tolerance, can be used as an estimate of the similarities of their mechanisms of action. In other words, if A and B are somehow seen by the body as being similar, then a normally effective dose of A will make a next-day's normally effective dose of B weaker than expected. Or not active at all. And B will do the same job on A. If two drugs are different in their ways of doing things in the body, there is most often no cross-tolerance seen. This was described for MDMA and MDA, and is the basis of the argument that they act by distinctly separate mechanisms. A person who used what would be held as an active dose of MDMA for several days lost all response to the drug. He was tolerant to its effects. But an exposure to an effective dose of MDA at the time that tolerance to MDMA was complete, provided a normal response to the MDA. The drugs are not cross-tolerant and the body recognizes them as distinct individuals."
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal127.shtml
It's too bad MDA is so hard to find, it might be just the thing for helping space out rolls. For example, instead of MDMA once every four months you could conceivably do MDMA wait two months, do MDA, wait two months then MDMA again. So you are having more fun more frequently, but putting more space between proper MDMA rolls....
"The measure of the degree of tolerance that can be shared between different drugs, called cross-tolerance, can be used as an estimate of the similarities of their mechanisms of action. In other words, if A and B are somehow seen by the body as being similar, then a normally effective dose of A will make a next-day's normally effective dose of B weaker than expected. Or not active at all. And B will do the same job on A. If two drugs are different in their ways of doing things in the body, there is most often no cross-tolerance seen. This was described for MDMA and MDA, and is the basis of the argument that they act by distinctly separate mechanisms. A person who used what would be held as an active dose of MDMA for several days lost all response to the drug. He was tolerant to its effects. But an exposure to an effective dose of MDA at the time that tolerance to MDMA was complete, provided a normal response to the MDA. The drugs are not cross-tolerant and the body recognizes them as distinct individuals."
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal127.shtml
It's too bad MDA is so hard to find, it might be just the thing for helping space out rolls. For example, instead of MDMA once every four months you could conceivably do MDMA wait two months, do MDA, wait two months then MDMA again. So you are having more fun more frequently, but putting more space between proper MDMA rolls....
Folley
Bluelighter
MDMA releases serotonin in large amounts, MDA does as well. The two are cross tolerant. I hate to disagree with Shulgin, but he's straight up wrong in this case...
If post this in ADD and they will tell you the same thing (it's been done)
If post this in ADD and they will tell you the same thing (it's been done)
futura2012
Bluelighter
I still think you should wait 3 months between rolls. MDMA or MDA.
Personally I find MDA way too trippy.
I dont think Shulgin is referring to HR its more to do with cross tollerance.
I see no reason to disbelieve what he is saying.
MDA is readily available online I see. I know many people on BL source pills using this method why not experiment a little and see what you think of it?
Personally I find MDA way too trippy.
I dont think Shulgin is referring to HR its more to do with cross tollerance.
I see no reason to disbelieve what he is saying.
MDA is readily available online I see. I know many people on BL source pills using this method why not experiment a little and see what you think of it?
laugh
Ex-Bluelighter
Does anyone else get the shutter effect from mda like your conscience is using your eyes to take constant frames without splicing them together all that evenly... Sort of like strobe lights
futura2012
Bluelighter
Yeah I got that stutter effect from MDA like your vision is turning on and off in half second intervals. Very weird.
I think MDA in small dose co administered with MDMA can be quite fun say 30mG or so. Adds a trippy edge to an MDMA roll.
MDA on its own for me is too much. Add MDEA into the mix as well and you have a true balls to the wall roll.
I have not seen MDEA available online.
MDA now with the new helional synth route is much easier to make. No safrol required
this is why its more easily available.
I think MDA in small dose co administered with MDMA can be quite fun say 30mG or so. Adds a trippy edge to an MDMA roll.
MDA on its own for me is too much. Add MDEA into the mix as well and you have a true balls to the wall roll.
I have not seen MDEA available online.
MDA now with the new helional synth route is much easier to make. No safrol required
this is why its more easily available.
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avcpl
Bluelighter
Pretty much anything and everything is available online if you believe the scammers. I've never heard of anyone successfully getting MDA online in the US at least. There are pages of horror stories about people getting scammed over fairly common RCs. Not saying it's never happened but I would be extremely skeptical; buyer beware!
Not to mention that while some RCs are not scheduled, MDA is clearly illegal (where isn't it illegal to purchase through the mail?); I don't think this is good advice at all...
futura2012
Bluelighter
No advice is for leaping before you look.
I agree having anything sent illegally through the post has risks attached.
If anyone is considering taking this kind of risk I suggest they check out this thread before making any silly decisions.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...he-Silk-Road-and-our-very-own-Tronica!/page18
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I tried 120mg MDA & 120mg MDMA after previously dosing 180mg MDMA the night before. I was totally floored and ended up running back to my tent. Ended up thinking they're was someone sat in the corner of my tent for about 20 minutes but I didn't want to make eye contact in case it got awkward. Ahh I love MDA.......
Hops
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Its not a good idea to source and also not allowed on here as you know, if you don't mind editing your post whether its a good place to get it or not. I just happen across some MDA and did MDMA a week ago so was just wondering.. guess I'll wait it out a little before I do it although alot of differing opinions on here I would rather go the route of harm reduction
futura2012
Bluelighter
Out of respect to yourself I have removed the direct reference.
I do think you might be being a bit paranoid.
Source or no source there is an entire blue light thread discussing the drugs in the post concept.
I dont really see what we gain by not mentioning the word **.
I do think you might be being a bit paranoid.
Source or no source there is an entire blue light thread discussing the drugs in the post concept.
I dont really see what we gain by not mentioning the word **.