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mcPP(65mg)+TFMPP(60mg)-no experience- From hell to heaven

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slippy sleeveen

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Right now I'm still under a bit of the effects of these substances so bear with my english, its hard to focus my thoughts right now.

I decided (moronically) to take both substances together for my first trial, even though I have no prior experience with either. I had read enough reports to confirm that I would be safe and I kept the doses relatively low. I took 65mg of mcPP and 60mg of TFMPP together in a capsule, along with 550mg of ginger.

I had not eaten anything today so my stomach was completely empty. This was a bit dumb on my part, as I find a good bit of protein a few hours before taking anything helps with my overall metabolizing of the substance. Oh well...lets kick this off.

Thirty minutes in, I am beginning to feel some stimulation. My heart rate was up a bit, not too terribly much, and I was starting to feel tingles. Nice I thought. Well...

50 minutes in, I begin to feel rather sickly. This could be due to a number of things, namely 1. Not having anything in my stomach 2. Having very little sleep from the night before, in which I consumed a fair bit of alcohol and was still a bit hung over 3. Having no tolerance for either chemical .. etc. My mind starts to feel like it was poisoned, and I am feeling a bit of panic. It was odd because my body felt great but my brain just felt off... hard to describe. The only way I could be comfortable is by laying on the floor and stretching out and I kept feeling like I was going to black out.This kept continuing for a long while until about 2 and a half hours in, when I met a massive rush of euphoria that sedated my panicking mind.

It was like a complete 180. My body was filled with incredible tingles that pulsed from my spine. I was extremely emphatic at this point and wanted to talk to everyone I could. The physical component was quite strong and was similar to strong, strong dose of MDMA, if I had to compare it. I'm still feeling it pretty strong right now in fact, 6 hours later.

I believe that with proper care you should be able to take mcPP without the sickness in the early stages. I gotta say, that was quite horrible and one of the few times I almost thought of an ER visit on any substance but I think that was just a bit of a panic attack from experience something that I have not experienced before. I look forward to trying out mcPP on its own with a lower dosage and when my body is more ready for it (in a healthier state). Very intriguing substance and I will look forward to trying it next time and hopefully dodging the sick feeling. I'm confident that my next attempt will be better, and not to say this was bad, but the panic I experienced was kind of horrifying but not neccessary (my carelessness is what brought it).

Oh a final note, and importantly for me, music sounded simply orgasmic and still does even with the effects wearing off a bit.

Cheers



*I'll be doing a trial with only mcPP tomorrow night, probably about 50mg this time, so I'll have a report of that up*
 
I'm pretty sure you shouldn't combine the two simultaneously. If you're willing to play guinea pig, I would suggest trying to eat the TFMPP about an hour or 90 minutes before the mCPP next time. If the TFMPP is what caused the horrible come-up, try it the other way around the next time after that - mCPP first, then TFMPP after an hour or two.
 
Good thinking. I've always heard that TFMPP has more of a sedative, drunk feel to it while mcPP has more of a stimulating, euphoria feel to it, so perhaps combining the two just isn't wise anyways. I'll find out one way or another.

Tomorrow I plan on eating a healthy dinner a couple of hours before taking the mcPP, and also getting some rest beforehand. My body was a bit sick and run down before tonight and I'm pretty sure throwing drugs on on top of it that has never been introduced to it before wasn't the wisest of my decisions.

One thing I didn't note was that there definately was a visual component to this. It was very much different than your typical psychedelic, because these just sort of appeared out of no where. For example, I was looking at my computer screen and the white areas started to have a very blue'ish tint to them. Occassionaly my visual field would shake, similar to the eye wiggles I sometimes get off of MDA, and high doses of MDMA.

On another note, I think perhaps the TFMPP dulled out the mcPP. It was like my mind was sedated and trying to wake up at the same time.
 
I'm still probably going to combine mCPP and meOPP on my first trial, although I might stagger it (take one, then the other after I feel the effects of the first). We'll see how it goes.
 
I've heared nothing but good things about that combo, so you should be fine. I had no reports of people combining mcPP and TFMPP to base my experience on, and had only heard of people combining the two, so yeah, now we know... not such a bright idea:\
 
Very good report. I have friends who do get sick of mcpp but I seem to escape the sickness. I am not sure why (perhaps years of working as a chef hardened my stomach)
 
After 5 friends and I did 50mg of mcPP and then boosted an hour later with 50mg more, it was very pleasant and only made one of us nauseas (and he had been drinking all day, had a fair amount of codeine in him, etc) and was very fun, though it does not quite have that euphoric edge of MDMA, that could of been because we divided up the doses.

3 of us took some TFMPP during the comedown (about 6 hours after initial dose) of the mcPP. APPRENTLY TFMPP is what my body HATES! I cannot express this enough...it makes my brain extremely agitated. It was horrible... there was a psychedelic component to it as well. All 3 of us had "shadow people" and had a sort of visual state similar to staying up days on end. Vision was wobbling and the only way I could be comfortable for 6 hours was to hold my arm on top of my eyes and lay on my back, hoping I didn't black out or have a seizure. My friends did not have the extreme agitation, so I guess that is just me, but I will never try this substance again. This was off just 30mg of TFMPP , mind you.
 
Hows this for wacky...

It is 5.55am right now. An hour ago, my heart rate felt like it became abnormal and I started shaking and was unable to stop. My mouth became rather numb, my vision starting wobling (perhaps due to my shaking) and I am just now coming off of this. The ONLY thing I have in my stomach is a bit of pepsi.

It felt similar to the panic I experienced on TFMPP. I am a very healthy 22 year old male, with no history of panic disorders or anything of that nature. This came just out of the blue. Watch out with this stuff, I know for a fact I won't be touching it ever again, and hope that whatever it has done to me is not permanent.
 
slippy sleeveen said:
Hows this for wacky...

It is 5.55am right now. An hour ago, my heart rate felt like it became abnormal and I started shaking and was unable to stop. My mouth became rather numb, my vision starting wobling (perhaps due to my shaking) and I am just now coming off of this. The ONLY thing I have in my stomach is a bit of pepsi.

It felt similar to the panic I experienced on TFMPP. I am a very healthy 22 year old male, with no history of panic disorders or anything of that nature. This came just out of the blue. Watch out with this stuff, I know for a fact I won't be touching it ever again, and hope that whatever it has done to me is not permanent.
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Whoa there, random panic attack without being on the drug? :\

I haven't experienced this -- it sounds like just your average panic attack. I'd relax just a tad though, I really don't think you've done any damage to yourself. The serotonin system can cause weird effects in everyone, especially with a new drug that you've introduced to your system. Even to the point of making people who aren't normally prone to panicky symptoms susceptible to them.

Hrm, and I've been completely fine since my trial, way better than if I had taken a comparable dose of ecstasy. Maybe it's because I only did it once this week? Who knows. I'll definitely be giving it another go in a week or two.
 
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