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MBDB - First time - Not a substitute for MDMA

Originally posted by Murple:
methylone is like MDMA stripped of most serotonergic effects. It has all the physical sensations of MDMA, and produces an MDMA-like euphoria, but isn't particularly psychedelic or emotionally opening.
The hell it isn't. My last experience with methylone showed me it can be EVERY bit as psychedelic and emotionally opening, when used in the right setting, as MDMA is/can be. Taking it in the desert remains up there as one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. A trip report on this experience can be found by following the link in my signiture.
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Methylone can be quite psychedelic... I had a very profound experience on a low dose, its on Erowid with a name like "Watering Plants" or something... but compared to MDMA, methylone isnt very psychedelic. You have to put way more effort into getting a good trip out of it.
 
[Don't hint about those things. -C22]
I'm not going to be the poor fucker that discovers the LD50 for this though, sorry. :)
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[First point responded to previous poster. -C22]
2ndly ingesting dopamine is useless as it will not reach your brain (dopamine can't pass the brain blood barrier bevause of its highly polar 2 hydroxyls). Besides in order to achieve some kind of MDMA-like feeling what is needed is a release of dopamine in the synaptic clefts, not a surge in its disponibility like you suggest.
The interesting idea wd be to combine MBDB with a dopamine releaser such as methamphetamine as has been suggested to see what wd come out.
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MBDB + 2C-I is a worthy but expensive combo. if you have both on hand its one thing, going out of your way to try it is another. my suggestion is to stick to low dosages of both, like 180mg MBDB + 15mg 2CI
 
Agree. I have combined 225 mg of MBDB and 25 mg of 2c-i and it was a very peaceful, soothing experience, the MBDB adding a cozy feeling to the 2c-i signature(for me) warm feeling. Strangely enough, at much lower dosages (~140mg), i found MBDB alone to be more intoxicating, that kind of drunken-feeling intoxication...
 
Ya I was on 250mg MDBD and snorted 8mg 2ci - very odd thing - became quite dissascociated and with eye's close felt very transported - layers of reality and imensions were played with me - very intriguin...
On it's own tho I find MDBD to be overpriced garbaged - next time round it'l be 125/g which is feckin outrageous since you need a good 200-250+ for a dose!
MDBD should sell for $20-$30/g, that's what it's worth IMO - fun stuff and very pleasant, but lacking the massive euphoria transcendence and magic of MDMA....
 
I don't think much of MBDB. I combined 150 mg with 150 mg of methylone. It wasn't terribly enjoyable, and I got a terrible headache.
Then again I never found E to be a tremendous experience either; even at 200+ mg, it's nice, enjoyable, but not profound/earth-shaking. Barely worth the $20 or so, I'd say.
 
I must have missed this report the first time around - nice report, and great follow-up discussion.
5ht - have you tried this again since your original post, or did you feel it wasn't worth the effort?
 
I've tasted MBDB 3 times now, each time at around 200mg followed 1-3 hours later by either 2C-I, 2C-C or both, plus maybe a bit more MBDB. Wonderful experiences. The 2Cs coming on during the MBDB plateau felt ecstatic with the added pleasure of beautiful visuals, rainbows beaming from every light source. Late evening dog walk in the park was like a trip to paradise. The downside for me was a somewhat restless and anxious last few hours before reaching baseline. Next time I'll take the 2Cs first.
This does make for a rather expensive experiment (no regrets though).
 
I've had MBDB a couple of times (100-200 mgs). Not at all like MDMA.
It is relaxing and good for conversation. It has the empathy thing but instead of stimulation it comes with relaxation. A therapy tool. Good to talk to your wife or whoever else about issues to be solved or such things in a calm way.
 
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