Maybe you can clarify for me...

[Wuttupg]

I'm new to this, so bare with me?

I decided to join this forum cause I wanted other fellow users' opinions. I'm 22. First time I rolled was in 2008. 2010 was my record year in terms of consistently rolling. I did it almost every weekend for most of the year. After February of this year, I slowed down significantly. To the point where I'm only rolling once a month, if at all.

Well, the point is they don't hit me like they used to. It takes so much for me to even get just slightly excited. It really sucks cause, you know... I miss it. I thought cutting back would bring my tolerance down so I can feel like I used to, but honestly, I've gotten to a point where I don't even bother anymore cause I feel it's just a waste of time and money.

Bottom line is, I'm interested in knowing if I built this immunity to rolling or if I just need to find better shit. Does any body know what the ecstasy situation is in South Florida? Could it be that there's just nothing good here?

- Missin those good times. =[

 

[Bsiren]

We cannot discuss distribution of MDMA in your area (or any area), but I can tell you from watching many friends responsibly use MDMA, sometimes tolerance and a loss of intense euphoria just comes with time- not necessarily from abuse, but obviously abuse can greatly diminish the desired effects of MDMA.

Once a month is the maximum amount you should be using MDMA, as the "every 30 days" rule is the most liberal of spacing rules. Alex Shulgin (who patented MDMA) actually has said that ideal spacing is every 90 days. I am not suggesting more often than that is abuse, but it stands to reason as a good spacing theory if the worlds foremost expect on MDMA believes that theory.

I would give yourself a few months off, avoid potentially cross-tolerating drugs, and give piracetam a try (this has worked wonders for myself, and other friends who have abused MDMA).

Sometimes taking a break is great just for bringing the specialness of it back, the novelty...I know for myself, when I was introduced to MDMA and treated it casually and did it every weekend (not knowing this was a very bad idea), it became fairly routine, like going to a bar and drinking. When you make bliss and euphoria routine, they no longer are bliss and euphoria. Even a routine of every 30 days will do this to you, I find. It's really best to avoid making MDMA something you're used to the feeling of, if you aim to appreciate it to it's fullest abilities.

 

[khald]

When you make bliss and euphoria routine, they no longer are bliss and euphoria.

quoted for mofkn truth.

Take a few months break, even a year or more. I'm in the same boat as you- I have been eating MDMA every ~30days for the past year, and it's slowly, but surely become less magical. The high is fun, but not nearly as awesome as it used to be. Get a test kit, take a loooooong break, and live a healthy lifestyle. Those are my suggestions.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

siren
shulgin never patented MDMA, merck might have in 1912 when they first synthed it but they never did anything with it

 

[2c-goinsane]

i use to roll pretty often and built a insane tolerance aswel, like what bsiren said i also was making this a routine. i quit for atleast 6 months because i was eating way to much excellent quality mdma at once without rolling. at that point your just wasting it, try to space out atleast 3 months and then eventually move to 4 then 5 months. youll feel alot better and when you do roll youll get the experience like you use to and also feel alot better when you do roll

 

[Bsiren]

siren
shulgin never patented MDMA, merck might have in 1912 when they first synthed it but they never did anything with it

You're right, it's bk-MDMA he holds the patent on that I confused. Regardless, he is the world foremost expert on MDMA and has done more research than anyone in history, so though I often enjoy using MDMA more often than every 90 days, I respect his theory on the topic, and consider it as definitive as any theory could be in present day.

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

Most people who roll can get away with a single "honeymoon period" where they are able to roll a little too frequently for a while upon discovering the drug. Life may be consistently wonderful during this period because one can find themselves basking in the glory of past experiences and anticipating future good times. No side effects will be noticed during this period, because they typically arn't being looked for since the positive effects are overwhelming and they take a while to set in. Not even hangovers - I always felt great after. My honeymoon was a 4 month period where I took it probably weekly on average. Sometimes I would wait a couple weeks, however the very first time I did it 4 nights in a row and rolled my ass off each time and thought I had discovered a cure for all my problems, including the use of nasty alcohol which had been wearing me out a lot. There were other times when I couldn't even wait a whole week.

Boy, when I graduated and the party was over, was my life ever dull for a while. I never had anything like the horrific side effects that are sometimes described, I didn't even feel spacey or anything, I was just unsatisfied with my life and I knew I had 2 options - continue rolling like that and fry my brain, or start respecting it and do my best to socialize and be happy without it. So all that was 18 months ago and nowadays I am sticking to once every 4 months - and a part of me sometimes feels like even this is a little too much based on my history with it, but nevertheless, I drop nothing more than 100 mg now, whereas I used to drop and rail my way up to 300mg, and every time I am floored all night long and it's magical like my first time all over again. Less is more with MDMA. And I feel like it has taken a whole 18 months for me to get over that whole wild experience. As time went on I came to realize that those crazy experiences obviously came at some sort of cost, and that MDMA certainly wasn't the Godsend, answer to all of lifes problems, that I initially thought it was.

You have probably done immense damage to yourself you need to change to a different method of having fun for a while, preferably something that doesn't involve drug use. Just have fun without it, it is going to require a hell of a lot of effort but I have seen it done. You need to take a break for at least one year, probably much longer, before you should attempt rolling again. But something tells me that you need to learn self control - that is what, like almost 50 rolls in one year! That is insane behaviour, and I would be pretty surprised if you don't find yourself very depressed for a while now - you have had it coming to you. I wish you luck though.

 

[Wuttupg]

Well... Honestly - and I don't mean to get defensive - I don't have a problem with self control. I'll admit, last year was pretty crazy but my behavior was based on the problems I had through out the year (really violent relationship stuff that would probably bore everyone here).

As I mentioned earlier, I stopped in February. I wanted to build my resistance to it but most importantly - and this i didnt find the need to disclose earlier - I recognized I was spiraling out of control. That being said, the fact that I've been able to reduce my usage by about 80% with no hesitation says a alot about my self control.

I DO have fun without drugs. But as a fellow user, you should know that sometimes you just miss the feeling. I was just curious as to why my last few times, spaced out between 4 and 6 weeks of eachother, have sucked so bad.

Anywho. I think it WOULD be a good idea to take a prolonged break, so as to conserve that special feeling of a good roll.

Thanks for the info guys.

 

[Wuttupg]

Regarding feeling depressed following stopping, I honestly didn't feel that way. I'm not trying to dispute with you for the sake of, but honestly, I've been fine for the past seven months. All of my depression was lived out - and ignored - last year when I was partying my ass off. =P

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

my bad I misread some of your post, didn't realize how long you had been rolling irregularly... yeah, I totally miss having rolling as a regular part of my life too sometimes. I think you have lingering tolerance from doing it so much last year, and tolerance with this drug is pretty much the toughest to get rid of. I'd still try a prolonged break, the longer you can make it, the greater the probability your next roll will be fantastic.

 

[severely etarded]

siren
shulgin never patented MDMA, merck might have in 1912 when they first synthed it but they never did anything with it

merck synth'd it first, shulgin synth'd it and found it's special qualities...

OP - the reason you are not feeling it could be shit pills, but truth-be-told, you are rolling WAY too much. You need to take a break of at least 3 months to maximize effects each time.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

hell pretty much all pills in america damn near are shit, when it takes 2 pills to get to 120-130mg MDMA then you know its all shit.
AND you're rolling too much.
east coast is less than ideal for MDMA right now anyway, hell the whole country is but west>east still.
am i the only one here/ever who realized i could have it damn near literally whenever i wanted for a while (cause i had some MDMA powder/crystal stashed away almost always from august 2010-june of this year) quit caring about doing it just to do it out of boredom? As in, after being slightly irresponsible at times but nothign too bad, i quit caring about always having it even though tbh the highs got better as time went on...as did the product but the high was a lot more intense the last few times than the first few times...at least IME is when you can have it whenever you want you dont care about wasting it for stupid shit, so its easy to not abuse.
and if you never thought going to a show=I GOTTA BE ROLLING i cant understand why it would be difficult at all..
but the worst of my abuse (which isnt much, this is the only shit i consider proper abuse) was when I rolled 4 times in 2 weeks after abstaining for 7 months (previously i tried it twice, first time nothign, 2nd tiem proper but not that good...) and ending up with 1.75g of MDMA all at once. Other than that it was never less than a month, once or twice 3 weeks, maybe 2 weeks once but nothing regular...and i can still roll quite fine...

 

[severely etarded]

It's been over 4 months since my last roll. I want to roll for NYE, so I got 3 more to go. Rolls are supposed to be very special. If you roll every weekend, or every month, they will no longer be special.