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EnglishButterfly

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Alrighty, I'm just looking for some feedback as I know no one knows what is in a pill if it's not tested. So I am not looking for definitive answers... maybe just a "what the fuck may have happened?"

I've been in the rave scene for 15 years. I've tried quite the variety of drugs and have had stupid nights where I allowed myself to go too far. But last night... last night was something unreal that I've never really experience.

So I went to a party and my friend (trusted friend that has never been to a rave until last night) had a couple pills from her stash and the stash has some older pills in it. She allows herself to roll 1 or 2 times a year so she had a couple pills on hand from some time ago.

She gave me a red bart or homer simpson, I don't recall which one it was but can ask her. Looking at pill reports I see these have a bad reputation with pipers and such... I did not know that before (my bad for not looking but again, she HAS had them before). I also want to say that I know pipers induce migraines and I have a migraine disorder, last night I DID NOT get a migraine.

Well ok, we take the pill before we get to the party. We had a hard time getting to the damn venue so by the time I get there I'm feeling pretty good... a slight buzzed feeling like I am just about to roll. I get a beer at the venue and I started to feel odd. I felt like I was coming up too hard, like really anxious and felt like I wasn't able to handle the pill. I've had very strong pills that kind of slam into me but this was... different. I wait a bit longer and started feeling the pill in waves... I would start to roll really hard, like a good true roll feeling but then I would get that horrible odd feeling again. I must have looked bad because my friends kept asking if I was okay. I then realized why I felt so bad... I was completely fucking tripping my damn tits off. Hallucinogens used to be my drug of choice and I do not mind tripping... but only once have I had a feeling like I did last night and it was when I candyflipped for my first time about 8 years ago. I won't go too into what happened then but it was a horrible night and I couldnt handle it. I completely lost my head that time. And again... I wasn't new to tripping or rolling back then, I just couldn't handle them together.

So I'm looking around, realizing I'm tripping and decide to sit down because it was SO intense. I had my head down and security kept asking if I was okay and I was okay... like I didn't need any medical help but I couldn't bring myself down. My two friends I came with were really worried because this isn't like me at all. I have experienced many types of drugs and have done a LOT in a night and never, ever, ever have I been that fucked off of one pill, only have I been to that level when I candyflipped.

So I had a friend come up to me and ask a question and I couldn't talk, like I just shook my head no and managed to say "Sorry, I am tripping too hard and can't understand you, sorry" and he gave me a hug and looked super worried... I gave him a thumbs up when he asked if I was sure I was okay, I just couldn't talk. I wanted to smoke and had to have help to go outside because I knew if I wandered off alone I'd get fucking lost. So it's like I was out of my head but had the internal thoughts of what I needed to do to be okay... so no wandering off, I knew I couldn't talk, I knew my surroundings and wasn't afraid or anything I just couldn't handle the trip.

Finally I asked my friend to take me home because I was just too gone and the music was making my brain go bonkers, lol. Good music but it was TOO much, ya know? I also was super cold and just wanted to go home and lay with my blanket and sleep it off.

I told my friend what happened and he thought maybe it was 2cb in there but there are certain qualities I get with different drugs... 2cb is a very "starry" like feeling and I smile a lot. Lights have stars jumping out of them and it's just bright and happy, if that makes sense. I didn't feel that. When Im on acid m body kind of locks a little bit, especially my hands and I clench my fists a lot and get spinal shivers... almost like my spine tickles and then I shiver. Not a bad feeling but it's a strong feeling I only get with acid. I see certain visual elements with acid and that happened last night. The way colors shifted, the way the music had auditory weirdness, so I'm honestly thinking I somehow got lsd in me.

BUT the pill reports said the homer simpsons (I just asked my friend what it was, and that was it, and red) have pipers in them. I have never known pipers to act like last night and I didn't get a migraine... so wtf? Lol has anyone have what happened last night with me, happen with them? Any speculation on ingredients in a pill? It was just so weird. My friend didn't feel anything like me when she took hers, so it's just so odd!!!

I know a testing kit is always the best but it was from a friend of like 16 years and she did them herself... I never get from someone I dont know. I have those that I get them from, test theirs. I don't have any reason to not trust her. I only let two people touch my drink last night and it was from the girl I got the pill from and my other good friend that NEVER in a million years would dose me as he knows what happened when I candyflipped and he never in his life would harm me. I mean he saw a girl last night shivering and he took the coat off his back to give to her. He's not that kind of person. Absolutely no suspicion of them tampering with my drink. But something was off... that's for sure.

Thoughts?
 
This is still a speculation thread and isn't allowed on Bluelight.

The effects that you described could have been caused by a wide variety of substances and I won't even hazard a guess as to what caused it, sorry. Always test your pills. If you would like to know what is in them, you can get one and send it off to EcstasyData.
 
Ah okay (I know who you are, btw), sorry... I'm not really so much looking for "Hey it could be this," but has it happened to anyone? Like my thought really isn't that I got a pill with something specific in it... I just more so wonder if this has happened to anyone else. I more so think that I somehow got dosed because it was that much akin to an acid trip, or really horrible candyflip incident. I would be shocked if it was the pill because it just wouldn't make sense. I'm racking my brain trying to think if I could have touched something... I don't know. I just have never had that kind of strong reaction.

Although the only thing that I could think MAYBE affected things is my pain patch. However, I've rolled a couple times with it on and didn't have an adverse reaction. I did acid at my last party and it was like what happened last night. That's just why I think it was so much alike. And I was the only one that was affected last night. I did see others outside of my group lose their freaking head, I never saw a party with so many people literally losing their fucking minds, but out of my group I was the only one affected.

It was just weird. All is good now and I am not upset it happened, just perplexed. If pain medication can cause an adverse reaction like this its good to know however I had never experienced that before. But Ive only rolled with it maybe... 3 times I guess?
 
I haven't really heard of pain medications having that kind of a reaction.

I've only ever been so far gone that I couldn't talk twice and it was from a hell of a lot of MDA both times.

I have, however, been dosed on acid before at a rave without my direct knowledge beforehand and I can tell you that I have a hard time communicating on a candyflip and I didn't particularly enjoy it. It doesn't sound too far off from what you described, I just didn't want to speculate as to what may have transpired because it is approaching the edge of the rules about "what did I take" threads.
 
^ ?

How in the fuck do you two know each other?

Don't answer that it's more rhetorical I'm just thinking WTF NINJA HACKIN HAHAHAHAH
 
Hey Robbie.... well you remember how I was at Caffeine when I candyflipped. It was like that except the only thing that kept me sane was knowing I needed to be brought down and had the mindset to think about what I needed to do to calm down. Do you remember how I couldn't speak? It was like that. I couldn't text my friend to say where I was so I handed my phone to Shawn and shook my head no, he then answered my text because I just couldn't do it. Without a doubt I know my friends I was with would never hurt me. They would not have done anything to my pill or drink and they were freaking out because they knew I wasnt okay but at least I had the headspace to bring myself down. I tripped recently and that was the first time I did acid since that night at Caffeine and I was okay... in fact I LOVED it and it got me over my fear from that incident. I don't think it was MDA because I've had pills with lots of MDA and the trip is different... you know hallucinogens were my thing and it just reminded me of one thing only and that's lsd. I don't think it was like any research chem Ive done so if it was a research chem in the pill... MAYBE that's what it was but had a similar feeling to lsd. I did my mannerisms of hand clenching, body locking (I wanted to dance but couldn't) At first I was all smiles but then it was just too intense and I didnt smile at all, lol. I would break through and go "Okay, pulling myself down, this is okay" and sit up, talk, be coherent and then the music would change to a different beat and BAM back into not being able to speak. The kids there last night were out of their heads... I saw one guy wander around and around, kind of darting back and forth like he was looking for someone. A couple hours later he is being carried out by 4 security officers yelling "Im too fucked up for this!" and screaming. I am pretty sure one guy was seizing but only started to after police got him on the ground for something. I saw a girl that would just walk normal and then flip around doing twirls and flipping her head around and then move around like she was on a stripper pole... stop to point at something (nothing was there) and would run off. She was doing this over and over and over and then she ended up leaving the party handcuffed. There were people acting way different than the normal party goes in terms of sobriety (or lack thereof) so I don't know if maybe people WERE getting dosed... maybe people just couldn't handle themselves... I don't know. But never, ever, ever in my 15 years of partying and oh, 13 or 14 years of doing drugs have I EVER been like this off ONE pill... except the one and only time I candyflipped and had I not had the mental capacity to realize I wasn't okay and needed to bring myself down I would have been to that same level. I almost went and got some milk to drink to see if I could bring myself down once Shawn said it could help but then Id realize Id probably puke from a sip of milk and didnt need to be MORE fucked up from that, so I didnt drink any. I just thought of something (but highly doubt it effects it), does zofran (anti nausea med) interact with any drug like mdma? Or anything that can typically be in a pill? Maybe my pain patch didnt do anything but can nausea medicine do it? I mean it was ONE pill and you have seen me on much more and this literally had me to a level that I was wishing there was a way to abort a roll/trip because as soon as I got that uncomfortable feeling when starting to roll I knew that something was very wrong and needed to bring myself down.
 
Sounds to me like people got dosed with something. Was this at a club venue? Open drinks?

There are a whole class of new research chemicals going around that are very unpredictable but they are very hard to dose too. They aren't orally active, you have to snort them (and even then its difficult because the dose is so small) or dose them on blotter and other pain in the ass dosing methods.

The mods will probably close this since it has gone to speculation but if everyone was jacked up, most likely somewhere down the line someone was dosing people with something without their knowledge. Wouldn't be the first time it happened but open/unattended drinks is the only real way to do it.

There are actually analogs of LSD out there now (remember how I used to talk about how they existed and sounded great and I wished they would be available? Well they released them alright) so its anyone's guess at this point.
 
afterlyfestyle said:
^ ?

How in the fuck do you two know each other?

Don't answer that it's more rhetorical I'm just thinking WTF NINJA HACKIN HAHAHAHAH
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Nah, she mentioned that she knew who I was, I know her typing style, I put two and two together when I saw her name on here and then I went and read her only other post here and figured out who it was immediately lol.
 
It was at a venue that people throw parties and other events at. Some people leave their drinks out and I learned the hard way never to do that and the only people that had my drink would never ever ever tamper with it, I know that for a fact and I didn't drink after anyone. So I dont think it was my drink and may have just touched something. I don't know how else I could have been messed with. My friends also drank from my beer too and no ill effects from them. I know the two I stayed with were genuinely worried about me and would never, ever, ever hurt me.

And I hope it's not closed... I would rather someone not speculate "Oh you may have taken this" but then just answer if it's happened to them from a pill. I mean, could I just have been too fucked up for my own good and didn't synthesize the pill the same as others? I don't know... like maybe it was me. I just was weirded out because its never happened to me... I have never had that impending feeling of doom... I mean for me to go "I should drink some milk" must give you a hint that I knew something was very wrong. It's milk. Ew. If that was the lsd analog you wanted then ew... not great, lol. Lsd is fun. I had a fucking BLAST tripping at the last event. I even thanked my friend for getting me over my fear of lsd, it used to be my drug of choice but hadnt touched it in like... 8-9 years? And now here I am "Ew, never again!" I mean... is this a stupid question... can you put lsd inside bubbles and get dosed that way? Like if they had a bottle of bubbles, put acid in it and then blew it could someone get high if it touched their skin? Or would it not work?
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Nah, she mentioned that she knew who I was, I know her typing style, I put two and two together when I saw her name on here and then I went and read her only other post here and figured out who it was immediately lol.
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Yeah, those that know me even a little bit would know my screen name is most likely me, and I have a very distinct "tone" when it comes to typing online. In fact I saw his screen name and didn't remember it was him but knew from the screen name it had to be him, then I saw Colorado and went "Yup, that's him!"
 
It wouldn't work. The soap would destroy the acid. Its really easy to destroy LSD.

I know how you react to things and I would say your reactions are pretty normal so I have no idea what's up with that experience.

The only thing it reminds me of is when I got that vial of acid sprayed on me at Caffeine.

You've seen how fucked I get from pills. Its pretty much unbelievable that someone could blast that hard from pills... but I've always been able to function between moans.....
 
Okay... so the bubbles is a no go. VIP was given bubbles and I thought that maybe some dick could have put it in some bubbles and I was the unfortunate person to catch it. The bubbles were opened but I doubt, HIGHLY doubt anyone would put stuff into the bubbles from LSD. At least drugs anyways. There was glitter and some coloring in my bubbles.. I didnt touch mine but maybe someone else put stuff in there.

If someone did spray stuff then maybe I was the unfortunate person to walk through that too, lol. It was just weird, and it was scary to the effect that never in my 15 years of partying has security come up to me like 6 times to check on me so I must have been pretty shitty looking. One security guard shined his light RIGHT in my face and I went "WHAT THE F... OH! Can I help you?" and he's all "ARE YOU OKAY!" Booming loud voice... I said "Yeah but I can't see a damn thing with that light in my eyes!" He moved it away and I smiled at him and said "Thank you, I promise I'm okay!" then he left me alone. One more person came up to me and I was all "Yeah I have seen too many people dragged out of here, I don't need to be the unfortunate next person... please take me home." I was actually quite okay once I was in the heat of the car and even better once I came home.

But you didnt answer my question (maybe you dont know) but does zofran mess with how one may metabolize or respond to MDMA or what may be in a pill?
 
Actually I missed it. Zofran is pretty selective for 5-HT3 so it doesn't have much in the way of interactions so no.

That's crazy about security. Hell I've never even had that happen to me other than when I bit through the glow stick at SM and they moved me to the "VIP" area pmsl.

I'm honestly stumped about this one. You're sure you didn't take anything else and forget about it? We have both done that before when we got fucked up.
 
EnglishButterfly said:
Yeah, those that know me even a little bit would know my screen name is most likely me, and I have a very distinct "tone" when it comes to typing online. In fact I saw his screen name and didn't remember it was him but knew from the screen name it had to be him, then I saw Colorado and went "Yup, that's him!"
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MagickalKat777 said:
Nah, she mentioned that she knew who I was, I know her typing style, I put two and two together when I saw her name on here and then I went and read her only other post here and figured out who it was immediately lol.
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That is soooooooooo crazy 8o
 
Just randomly seeing on an internet forum though that is pretty cool I don't know anyone IRL that uses this, all too ignorant/on their facespaces all day :! and bam in two posts its like I KNOW YOU I like that haha I wish that will happen to me one day but probably not.
 
Its not always a pleasant thing. I've had people find me that I don't want to find me before. Luckily not on here since you can't change your username on BL lol
 
I used to post on here a long time ago, albeit not often. I think my screen name was NeoMeeko. I'm a board junkie, lol.

But no, there is absolutely no way I took another pill. I didn't take anything. Not even by forgetting it... in fact I wanted to get another to attempt to roll more and overcome it but I then thought "No, I will be too fucked up and it won't work." So I actually passed it up despite my friend saying it was like one of the best hes had. I didn't even finish one full beer. It was "light" compared to how I used to be, or even what I'd done lately. I take at most like 2-3 pills a night now and typically it's only 2. So I wasnt trying to get super high and know my limits now, I strictly follow them. I had my pain meds on me... didn't take them. I just had one solitary pill, and maybe 3/4 of a beer, and that was it. Security was nice, thankfully. They did ask me a lot if I was okay and my 2 friends said they were seriously worried about me because of how I was acting. I wasn't acting odd... like I wasn't flipping out like others were. I was just very quiet and had my head down in my hands rubbing my neck. To anyone else I probably looked fine, but I wasn't if someone knew me. The only time you could tell I was having issues was trying to read or texting on my phone and when I couldn't talk. My 2 friends understood me okay but to anyone else I just got... like stuck. One guy came up to me and asked where our other friend was and I'm all "I'm sorry... I just can't... I think I'm tripping" and he's all "Are you okay, how much did you take?" I shook my head no and said "I didn't mean to trip... nothing... I just" and shook my head no again and he asked if I was okay and I gave him a thumbs up and smiled, he said "Are you okay?" and he started to look scared and I just nodded and gave him a thumbs up because I couldn't talk. When I was talking to my friend we were talking about this girl that was doing the running around and twirling dancing and other weird stuff and I kept having the pauses... like I was going "That girl is..... she's having problems...." and he said "what happened?" and I'm all "She's.... running around and stops.... look.... she runs away.... she isn't...." and then I just said "nevermind" because I couldnt explain it and he then said "What, do you mean how she's running around and then will stop to flip her head around? Yeah, I can tell she's on something for sure" and I nodded after that because he got what I was saying but I couldn't say it. If you remember how I was at caffeine it was like that... I wouldnt talk and would be able to listen okay but no words would come out right.
 
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