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Maximum safe dose?

when people say you couldn't take 45 pills... i'm not exactly sure on the logic... a pill is about the same size of a skittle, and i'd say there are several more than 45 skittles in a bag, and i've eaten more than one bag at once.

However, it'd be an expensive bag of skittles to do what some people do. I think wise advice is to be happy with a normal dosage and try to be moderate about things, so they last longer.
 
DigitalRidah said:
People who die from E die because of some unrelated problem in their body or immune system.

People die from taking E ... It's hardly unrelated 8)

Posted by amaiznblue50
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health4.shtml
There is a great deal of variation among individuals in the
level at which MDMA becomes toxic. Steven B. Karch, in "The
Pathology of Drug Abuse," (CRC Press, 1993, p. 211) reports that
"There appears to be tremendous overlap between recreational and
toxic levels. In seven patients who died of MDMA toxicity, blood
levels ranged from from 110 ng/mL (.110 mg/L) to 1260 ng/mL (1.26 mg/L).
Levels in five patients who survived serious bouts of toxicity were
from 200 to 970 ng (from .200 to .970 mg/L), while levels in five
car-accident victims were from 50 to 340 ng/mL (.05 to .34 mg/L)."
So one person's recreational dose can another's fatal dose. There
is no way to find your own limit except to die.
 
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DigitalRidah said:
No...maybe alitte exagerated but the number is huge in comparason to what people use. People who die from E die because of some unrelated problem in their body or immune system. Agreed, taking any drug, even the smallest ammount, despite what anyone might tell you, you could have an adverse reaction too it that is like 1 out of 5million and it could kill you. I did say in the last post "I heard" and i was looking for a real response besides, are you joking

digital

Agreed, most reported deaths are due to dehydration or the opposite of it, but those are directly related to the E experience, because you get hotter, you have more energy and it could hide your body's signals that you're thirsty or not thirsty.
That adverse reaction stuff is 100% bullshit, to scare people away from drugs. Some people have allergies to a certain drug or have a tenfold lower tolerance but that doesn't mean they'll die if they're smart enough to start out low, like everyone should with any kind of drug.
 
Posted by amaiznblue50
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health4.shtml
There is a great deal of variation among individuals in the
level at which MDMA becomes toxic. Steven B. Karch, in "The
Pathology of Drug Abuse," (CRC Press, 1993, p. 211) reports that
"There appears to be tremendous overlap between recreational and
toxic levels. In seven patients who died of MDMA toxicity, blood
levels ranged from from 110 ng/mL (.110 mg/L) to 1260 ng/mL (1.26 mg/L).
Levels in five patients who survived serious bouts of toxicity were
from 200 to 970 ng (from .200 to .970 mg/L), while levels in five
car-accident victims were from 50 to 340 ng/mL (.05 to .34 mg/L)."
So one person's recreational dose can another's fatal dose. There
is no way to find your own limit except to die.

What are those measurements in terms of oral MDMA intake?
 
From my experience, it's the first dose that is the most dangerous to overdo. Little sniffs of MDMA throughout the night after the first big dose don't seem to do much for euphoria, or massive increases in acute damage.


(of course this is just MY experience)
 
beyond-infinity, 6-8 pills is plenty more than enough for a night, after around the third it is just compulsion and the rolls hardly compare to the first...
 
^^^ Yeah but what he was saying was that it's not a great deal in the scheme of things, not that is was more than enough for one night.
 
center said:
beyond-infinity, 6-8 pills is plenty more than enough for a night, after around the third it is just compulsion and the rolls hardly compare to the first...

I aggree with you in the sense that you might not "Peak" again but you can definatly sustain a roll by taking more pills through out the night.

There is more to E than the inital rush

digital
 
I just dont understand how people can take 8 pills or more in a night and not feel fucking horrendous for the following week...
 
^ok 100mg is good. 75mg (8 pills) = medium :)

In the report above on MDMA toxicity it doesn't mention what the toxic effects are. Would you class having a heart attack on e as MDMA toxicity?
I'm thinking of triple dropping next weekend just to see what it's like but if there's like anything greater than 1 in 5,000 chance of it being dangerously toxic then i wouldn't bother.
 
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VelocideX said:
I just dont understand how people can take 8 pills or more in a night and not feel fucking horrendous for the following week...

If I take even 400mg, im definetly feeling like shit for atleast the next few days.
 
On the weekend I went to an outdoor dance event in my home town and saw a few people I'd not seen in a while. One guy seemed to be quite high on speed, but when I asked him how much speed he'd done it turned out he'd done 18 E's over Friday night, Saturday morning and through to that evening (it was about 7pm at the time). He continued doing more, including doing 4 at once around midnight.

How on earth he manages to get through the week I don't know, the comedown must be horrendous 8(
 
Jeez. I guess people are so caught in still feeling good, that they don't realize the fact that theyre justing feeling amphetamine effects. Especially 18 E's, over 3 days? Talk about abuse.
 
^^ I think the comedown is increased terribly if you try to extend the duration, more so than increasing dosage over a short time.
Then again, I had one of the greatest afterglows ever with about 350-400 mg spread over a whole afternoon/evening, with my first dose being at 2am, my second around 5-6am(T+2 after the first dose affected me) and my third dose around 8am.
The day after was pure bliss and happiness, if I could feel like that every day I'd have no problem to do X every day before going to bed :)
I felt very at easy and in some kind of zen-state for at least a full week after that..
 
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