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Masturbation on shrooms

I think you should tell your masturbating friend to fuck off. What sort of bullshit is that. WTF!
 
You judgmental jerks are being ASSHOLES. If the guy knew what he did or could believe the accusations he would probably be very humiliated and embarrassed. Sometimes something in peoples' brains just sort of snaps when on large doses of shrooms and these things happen TOTALLY beyond one's ability to control, affect, or remember.

For you to act as if he really did it "on purpose" and ought to be "punished" is really juvenile and cruel and utterly rude and assholeistic. Shows what control-freak paternalistic blame-mongers you are. You are the ones who ought to take a hike and fuck off.
 
I have seen a chick do something similar at a rave many years ago infront of god knows how many people, I don't think she knew what the fuck was going on. Pretty sure she wasn't mushrooms though..................maybe not relevant to the topic :)
 
Well said Dwayne.

Ismene said:
I wonder if it would stand up in court?
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greenmeanies said:
on my first ++++ (psilohuasca) experience, the last visual I remember before blacking out (and flailing all around my friends) was an endless fractal tunnel surrounding me. it looked like an alex grey painting, an endless surrounding vagina that engulfed me in its hot, wet sensuality... of course at that point i still had some recollection that i was with my male friends, and i was highly conflicted with this duality of following my mushroom energy into the spiritual love tunnel, and staying sane with my friends. needless to say, i eventually surrendered and completely lost control of my body. they told me later that i required Quetiapine to be tranquilized, and they had difficulty keeping my pants on my body.
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Even in situations like the above, in which people have voluntarily decided to participate, and in which the participants are fully aware that the normal rules go out of the window, there's always the perpetuating social dogma that 'weird' behaviour need to be stopped by whatever means necessary. Like drugging someone up with anti-psychotics. It's incredible that even in the age we live in, people still cannot think for themselves, but instead choose to imbibe other people's toxic "PC" memes. :|
 
A friend told me of a time where another friend felt compelled to masturbate while in the same room with him while on MDMA. I felt it unacceptable.

But I must be being hypocritical without fully realizing it. Were all human.
 
^MDMA is quite a bit different then shrooms as far as loosing control of your body and whiting out goes.

Even so, I wouldn't care much if my friends masturbated in front of me, regardless of what drug they were on, as long as they weren't doing it while I was trying to interact with them. But if we were on shrooms and everyone was off in their own universe of hallucinations, then it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if they decided to jerk off. Doesn't hurt me and it makes them happy, so more power to them.
 
quite the open mind you've got there.

i'd be concerned if it was my dorm room that the jacking-off was occurring in, as it would probably become my mess to clean up. i don't know about you, but unattended foreign jizm is one hell of a disgusting stain to get out :)
 
Well masturbation doesn't occur involuntarily, I don't care what drugs you are on. But that doesn't mean it's wrong either. People will obviously say that they don't remember doing it because they are afraid of ridicule from other people who may just as well have done the same thing.
 
RandomGuy123 said:
I've masterbated in front of my best friend, his girlfriend, and my girlfriend, on 3.5grams of good shrooms. Was my first shroom trip till this day.
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I imagine it will always be your first shroom trip...weird that.

As much as I respect the cool peoples notions of freedome to masturbate wherever and whenever (a freedom I exploit) its just a fact that in our overly christian society, sexual pleasure/stimulation is seen as taboo. Its not wrong or anything, but you can get arrested for masturbating in public (lord, I wish I didn't know that for certain ;))- as if by masturbation you are not one of the flock (aye, jesus saves blargh)- hmm, you must act in accordance with the herd.

in other words, woah.
 
Masturbation is fucking hot~ honestly I'd find it surreal if a friend suddenly did that, but I'm pretty open sexually, so it'd be kind of flattering that whatever environment we're in is so comfortable that their trip could go in that direction. Especially if it was in my house or something. Don't care what gender you are, if you're feeling so sexual you need that sort of stimulation I say have at it~ <3

It's happened to me all too often in private~ I love the bliss of sex/masturbation on psyches/mdma~ to be honest I wish there was a way sometimes to cut off climax while I'm on them. x3
 
Survived Abortion said:
Well masturbation doesn't occur involuntarily, I don't care what drugs you are on. But that doesn't mean it's wrong either. People will obviously say that they don't remember doing it because they are afraid of ridicule from other people who may just as well have done the same thing.
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You assume the guy did it "on purpose" and is just denying it out of embarrassment.

Not necessarily, you are making an "typical" presumption from the point of view of sober awareness.

I once "whited out" on some really strong LSD while fooling around with a couple friends, and I SWEAR I remember absolutely ZILCH for about 3 hours. When I "came to" it was like that 3 hours was a total black hole of memory. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And yet I remained naked, granted we were naked to start with, and was lurching around like some horny ape masturbating most of the time... and apparently did not understand language or speak this entire time. Nor appear to recognize anything whatsoever about what was happening around me. Like I was stuck in some "fugue state" or "infinite loop" of some kind.

To this day that period is a completely empty span of time. Yes, SOMETHING was controlling my body... but it certainly was not "me"... "I" was essentially totally unconscious during this time, like I had developed a split personality, or my lower brainstem was controlling my bodily actions, hence the loss of language abilities. Really really freaky. But I have heard of this happening to other people as well... blacking out while some sort of autonomic process keeps the eyes open and the body moving about but little else. Zero memory or speech. Totally bizarre.

So... riddle me this Sherlock: would you say that my "performance" during these 3 hours was "voluntary" or not?
 
DwayneHoover said:
You assume the guy did it "on purpose" and is just denying it out of embarrassment.

Not necessarily, you are making an "typical" presumption from the point of view of sober awareness.

I once "whited out" on some really strong LSD while fooling around with a couple friends, and I SWEAR I remember absolutely ZILCH for about 3 hours. When I "came to" it was like that 3 hours was a total black hole of memory. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And yet I remained naked, granted we were naked to start with, and was lurching around like some horny ape masturbating most of the time... and apparently did not understand language or speak this entire time. Nor appear to recognize anything whatsoever about what was happening around me. Like I was stuck in some "fugue state" or "infinite loop" of some kind.

To this day that period is a completely empty span of time. Yes, SOMETHING was controlling my body... but it certainly was not "me"... "I" was essentially totally unconscious during this time, like I had developed a split personality, or my lower brainstem was controlling my bodily actions, hence the loss of language abilities. Really really freaky. But I have heard of this happening to other people as well... blacking out while some sort of autonomic process keeps the eyes open and the body moving about but little else. Zero memory or speech. Totally bizarre.

So... riddle me this Sherlock: would you say that my "performance" during these 3 hours was "voluntary" or not?
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Don't worry Dwayne, he won't ever understand, I don't see how he's had ego death not believing that someone could black out under the influence. Happened to me twice, on LSD I could control it but I was just stupid. Shrooms I turned into a wildman for 6 hours of which I remember bits and pieces.
Let the non-believers sit in their non-believing soberistic ways ;).
 
Seems there are three possible scenarios that could be what happened.

A) He lost touch of reality as said and didn't realize what was going on in reality.

2) He wanted to jack-off and didn't care if anyone was around, then used the I was too high excuse.

D) He Hoped that someone would join into his fun.

If anyone want so to ad to my list feel free, but it only speculation so how the fuck could anyone really know. I say that in the most non abrasive tones as well. I just found this thread a little bit on the funny side.
 
^If it was "D" I am guessing he tried it before and it worked... but the crowd this time was too repressed. Either that or he is um... not hot enough, hehe. But really my guess would probably lean towards "A"

Anyway the whole "doing stuff you are not really in control of and dont remember after the fact while tripping" is a fairly common phenomenon and pretty interesting to ponder what is really going on during these periods.
 
yes i too wonder about these periods of black/white outs.

I have this million dollor idea:

Strap on a go-pro (small video camera that straps to you) and then proceed to get
absolutely blackout drunk or what have you. (feel free to add acid, shrooms, benzo's or all of the above)

Then when you wake up next morning in china town, jail or etc;
watch what actually happened in the time span where you really weren't
there and see how the night's events unfolded.

Then compile various people's best blackouts into a sweet documentary.
 
DwayneHoover said:
You assume the guy did it "on purpose" and is just denying it out of embarrassment.

Not necessarily, you are making an "typical" presumption from the point of view of sober awareness.

I once "whited out" on some really strong LSD while fooling around with a couple friends, and I SWEAR I remember absolutely ZILCH for about 3 hours. When I "came to" it was like that 3 hours was a total black hole of memory. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And yet I remained naked, granted we were naked to start with, and was lurching around like some horny ape masturbating most of the time... and apparently did not understand language or speak this entire time. Nor appear to recognize anything whatsoever about what was happening around me. Like I was stuck in some "fugue state" or "infinite loop" of some kind.

To this day that period is a completely empty span of time. Yes, SOMETHING was controlling my body... but it certainly was not "me"... "I" was essentially totally unconscious during this time, like I had developed a split personality, or my lower brainstem was controlling my bodily actions, hence the loss of language abilities. Really really freaky. But I have heard of this happening to other people as well... blacking out while some sort of autonomic process keeps the eyes open and the body moving about but little else. Zero memory or speech. Totally bizarre.

So... riddle me this Sherlock: would you say that my "performance" during these 3 hours was "voluntary" or not?
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Yes I know - I read the thread. I don't have an explanation, and I'm not going to make "presumptions", but I will stick to my reasoning that as long as you are alive, someone is behind the wheel. And that someone is "you", whether you remember it or not. I don't see why people have to pass the responsibility of their actions to some nebulous entity which is not their own ego.
 
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