Massive Amount of Kratom Required for Desired Aroma

[billy leatherwood]

After a few months of enjoying the aroma of Kratom, once weekly or less, swim has found an ideal amount to burn: 17g Bali, 3.7g UEI, (each from different, reputable vendors).

While the burn is quite pleasant with no adverse conditions apart from the "itch," and a bit of insomnia, swim fears this amount may be detrimental to swim's health after reading the burn amounts of other Kratom enthusiasts. It seems that this is quite a large amount to burn at once. Too much?

 

[88dood88]

That sounds like a lot to me. I'm good off .5g UEI alone, although I hardly ever use extracts. 17g with almost 4g UEI to get an ideal 'aroma' (we know you're talking about getting high off of it) seems like a huge dose to me. I've been taking it for months, and an 8g plain leaf dose has me feeling good for a couple of hours. I would consider dialing back, unless you wanna go through some serious opiate-like, and perhaps more intense considering the extracts, withdrawals.

 

[whiteroom67]

There are no known health risks associated with kratom use, even heavy use. Having said that, addiction can be an issue, without a doubt. But if you are only using once week or less, the chance for addiction is nearly nonexistent. Unless you start getting more cravings and then follow-up with more frequent dosing. At once a week, even at such high doses you are fine. And again, no known health risks, other than maybe temporary nausea, dizziness, constipation, etc.

I find that with Kratom there tends to be a "sweet spot". The perfect balance of stimulation, sedation and euphori. Go any higher than that and the negative side effects increase while euphoria remains stagnant, or sometimes can even decrease.

 

[Nicholai]

^^ Not true. Kratom has caused liver failure in some people!

 

[billy leatherwood]

Thanks for the help guys... I neglected to mention that, at the right dose, about 10-minutes after dosing, Swim's system completely purges itself via... well... not vomit, and it's clear that a good amount of the plant matter escapes. This does not happen at lower and, for Swim, ineffective doses. Another 10-minutes and the Kratom hits like a ton of bricks.

Thx again.

 

[whiteroom67]

^^ Not true. Kratom has caused liver failure in some people!

Liver failure from Kratom? I have done lots of research and have never come across that one... do you have any legit sources to back that claim up?

I know Kava has caused liver failure, I think maybe you're confusing the two.

 

[Nicholai]

http://www.idosi.org/gjp/8(3)14/7.pdf

Look at the bit on the gastrointestinal system.

 

[whiteroom67]

http://www.idosi.org/gjp/8(3)14/7.pdf

Look at the bit on the gastrointestinal system.

Interesting study and good to know but it was done on rats, not humans. I have yet to hear of a human acquiring liver damage from Kratom use. Still good to be aware of, though it doesn't seem likely to be the case with humans.