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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

Looks like he used a pistol, or both a pistol and rifle, and was being chased by border patrol because he was wanted for murder and the chase ended at a school



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Really pissed off. I want to believe in Karma. I really do. Some larger justice that we can't see. Because children should not be shot dead. So as I was typing another shooting was happening. Thank God this world is temporary. Imagine living to 500 years old? How burnt would we be?

Stay well everyone. :(
 
Jerry Atrick said:
I don't think anyone in this thread is saying "ban guns." The OP mentioned military-style assault rifles. These types of guns, while making up a small percentage of the types of firearms available, unfortunately make up a larger proportion of the types of weapons used in mass shootings like that just happened in Buffalo. I think @Negentropic offered some other good viable solutions as well like universal background checks, longer waiting periods, licensing and renewals, etc.

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And I know it's a favorite cliche for the 2A fanatics to say, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people."....

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Ban innocent bystanders instead, its them getting shot thats a problem so if they aren't there, no one will notice.
 
It should be self-evident that the framers of our Constitution strongly believed that public safety is nobody's business. They foresaw and embraced the God-given right of any American to own and use automatic and semiautomatic weapons.

God Bless America!

Obviously nothing can (or should) be done about mass shootings. Nor should police officers be held accountable for killing unarmed citizens (they're just doing their job). Let us continue the tried-and-true (and All-American) strategy of praying for the families of the victims.

Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts and prayers.
Stand your ground.
Abortion is murder.
God Bless America!


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Electrum1 said:
Looks like he used a pistol, or both a pistol and rifle, and was being chased by border patrol because he was wanted for murder and the chase ended at a school



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I'm curious what the connection with border control is.

If he had a BOLO for suspected murder what does border control have to do with it? Was he trying to flee to Mexico? That town looks to be about 2 hour drive from the border.

I really hope this connection to border control isn't used politically to shift focus onto some immigration or border issue (assuming he is a US citizen). I highly, highly doubt he is an illegal alien.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
I'm curious what the connection with border control is.

If he had a BOLO for suspected murder what does border control have to do with it? Was he trying to flee to Mexico? That town looks to be about 2 hour drive from the border.

I really hope this connection to border control isn't used politically to shift focus onto some immigration or border issue (assuming he is a US citizen). I highly, highly doubt he is an illegal alien.
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I think its like 50 or 100 miles within the border that border control can police, so I assume since there was an alert to watch for his truck that it could have been border patrol that saw the tags first, and it may not have anything to do with the border, but I'm just guessing
 
Electrum1 said:
I think its like 50 or 100 miles within the border that border control can police, so I assume since there was an alert to watch for his truck that it could have been border patrol that saw the tags first, and it may not have anything to do with the border, but I'm just guessing
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Yeah, 100 miles. That town is about 60mi from the border.

So they called in a BORTAC unit, border patrol's version of SWAT who were the first to arrive (?). I'm starting to suspect that this part of Texas might actually actively use Border Patrol as some sort of auxiliary police and it might not even have much to do with the border? Knowing Texas that definitely sounds like something they would do normally.



Holy fuck man... now it's up to 18 dead children and 3 adults... FUCK
 
Jerry Atrick said:
One reason why there is never a solution is because of the two party system a la political pendulum that swings in only two directions. Of course the right wing doesn't wanna do anything about the problem because the NRA is such a huge lobby and has a stranglehold on republican politicians. So when the left wing has majorities in the House, Senate, and even presidency, they can't hold power long enough to do anything about it. Then another election cycle comes along and we rinse and repeat but in the other direction. Look at what is happening now where the minority is literally calling the shots in Washington all because 2 democratic senators (Manchin and Sinema) keep voting with republicans and what a coincidence, they both are owned by corporations. Also, as long as we have the filibuster, which is a relic of Jim Crow, nothing major will ever change for the better.

Honestly the democratic party is too fragmented between the progressives, who actually want to make America a better place for all, and the moderates who are just as corporate-bought as the republicans. At least the republicans do a better job of sticking together. The only problem is that they stick together to uniformly screw over the American people in a way that the rich will always be in power and have all the economic advantages to keep the regular people down.

Annnnnnndd...... cue all the $40,000 wannabe millionaires who think they will actually become wealthy enough for a democratic tax hike to affect them....
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I’m on board with a ton of this. Unless the public is severely up in arms and United then the Federal politicians are bought and paid for by the lobby. Lobby is pretty much just a fancy word for bribery.

Then you have clear blurring of Government and powerful private sector companies with revolving door employment between high ranking power government posts being regularly recruited by very powerful government contractors like the Bechtel Corp. This company enjoys more power and much more influence then most nation states.

So you have the big boys exclusive clubs and then divide up the peons and constantly stir both sides with up the same unresolvable issues.

Then watch the peons argue the fuck outa these issues on the net while we all…
 
The only answer is to arm the children.

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Just another reason for politicians to grandstand and campaign, pulling heavily on those emotional strings. If “The deranged knuckleheads“ want to shoot up something they will find a way to do it, regardless of laws. Of course, strictly my opinion but I bet I’m not far off. Very very few US politicians are not crooks.
 
alasdairm said:
having no effect...
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neither will any of the laws Dems are on TV talking about wanting to pass...

if you want to repeal the 2nd amendment just say so, but don't talk about background checks like that is going to stop anything.

how about we talk about the real problem, which is why are young men so angry, immature and hopeless? Oh I forgot, the media don't give a shit about that stuff.
 
Electrum1 said:
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So now it's the media's fault for reporting the news? How about they keep all the murders secret so nobody found out? Some countries actually do this. Everybody wants to point fingers and make it the media's fault or video games or rap music or whatever. It's almost like some of you have been *gasp* indoctrinated to believe that guns aren't the problem.

As someone who grew up in Texas and has been around guns my entire life, I'm still not a fucking moron when it comes to what is going on here. I think Snafu made some good points in the OP way five pages up there about some solutions to this problem that cannot be solved with thoughts or fucking prayers.

No one is talking about seizing anything from average citizens. But when any 18 year old swinging dick can buy a gun yet still not be old enough to buy alcohol because his decision making abilities may not be completely intact, I think we have a legislative problem.

This recent shooting took place less than 3 hours from where I live. I have nieces and nephews in school not far from here. And I'm pulling my fucking hair why nobody, from the bottom to the top all the way in Washington, is doing anything to stop these types of killings. But yeah, let's just stop reporting it so copycats won't follow suit. "Oh, 14 kids, a teacher, and a couple of others just disappeared like a fart in the wind? Hmm, I wonder where they went? DeR dA dEr!" See how dumb that sounds?
 
BWG707 said:
If “The deranged knuckleheads“ want to shoot up something they will find a way to do it, regardless of laws.
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That's not a valid reason to refrain from writing laws and/or enforcing them. Same with any law. "If the 12 year old kid is gonna drink a bottle of Jack anyways, they will find a way to do it. So let's not pass a law to restrict underage drinking." C'mon man, we gotta have some common sense and rattling off Faux News talking points ain't doing anything to help.
 
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