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Mass Delusion

Medatripper Tates

Medatripper Tates

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The greatest delusion society has adpoted is the idea that the greatest of knowledge comes from understanding objective reality.

We have completely ignored the potential of the subjective realm of experience and the reality of the understanding that it may bring.

What do you think the realest of understanding comes from?
 
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"We have completely ignored the potential of the subjective realm of experience and the reality of the understanding that it may bring."

Abd if I disagree? Where does that leave us? Balancing one belief against another is not a good way to argune...
 
What do you think the realest of understanding comes from?
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Depends on who the understanding is for really -but for society in general objectivity seems best suited - & unless we can all develop empathetic/telepathic powers it's likely to remain that way for the forseeable future.
 
Medatripper Tates said:
The greatest delusion society has adpoted ...
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'Delusion' being some form of thought/concept/experience/perspective outside of the common concensus? If 51% of the people in Amerikkka voted that noon was now midnight, then that would be the new 'reality' and 'delusion' to think otherwise.

is the idea that the greatest of knowledge comes from understanding objective reality.
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Yes, that is an error.

We have completely ignored the potential of the subjective realm of experience and the reality of the understanding that it may bring.
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The Eastern mystics and the 'enlightened' have known this for millenia, quantum physics has discovered this relatively recently (last 100 years).

What do you think the realest of understanding comes from?
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The 'realest' of understanding is YOUR understanding/perspective (your 'reality') at any moment. Perspective means that there is no 'one-size-fits-all 'reality/perspective'. We are all unique perspectives with unique 'realities'.
All perspectives are correct ('realest' at the moment).
All perspectives are incomplete/limited (to one extent or another).
 
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The Eastern mystics and the 'enlightened' have known this for millenia, quantum physics has discovered this relatively recently (last 100 years).
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and what i am saying is that something subjective can't be understood through objective means. it is only seeing through a description, it is not actually seeing.


All perspectives are incomplete/limited (to one extent or another).
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and some perspectives are more limited than others.
 
Medatripper Tates said:
The greatest delusion society has adpoted is the idea that the greatest of knowledge comes from understanding objective reality.

We have completely ignored the potential of the subjective realm of experience and the reality of the understanding that it may bring.

What do you think the realest of understanding comes from?
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Well a lot of people are still running around trying to find something to eat. That's the real world. Eastern mysticism doesn't put food on the table. It doesn't get your kids into college.
 
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Well a lot of people are still running around trying to find something to eat. That's the real world. Eastern mysticism doesn't put food on the table. It doesn't get your kids into college.
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i'm not trying to compare east vs. west here. the east is just the same as the west now anyways when it comes to the mentality of its people.

society is great, i'm all for it... but naturally there is a downside, which has become our lack of self-knowledge and self-awareness.
 
The very fact that the word objective is only a symbol for something that everybody has their own subjective understanding of. A symbol for something nobody can truly experience outside the realms or their own consciousness, I'd have to agree with you.

I'd say the realest understanding comes from empathy, perhaps.
 
consciousness is just a small television show produced by your sub-conscious. luckily you brain gets to direct, so you can turn a tragedy into a comedy or an adventure into a drama. this direction may only seem self-controlled because it is a lie manipulated by the self-conscious to do so.

i was gonna delete all that but i kinda like it.

"The greatest delusion society has adpoted is the idea that the greatest of knowledge comes from understanding objective reality."
And yet it was one of the first and arguably most influential philosophers of all time who, over four thousand years ago, realized that the only true knowledge we have is that we have no knowledge.

ramble, ramble
 
Delusion has connotations of negativity.

I choose to look at subjectivity as Earth's art, not delusion.

Illusions are real in our virtual metaphysical supra-physical consciousness.
 
Manifespo said:
Delusion has connotations of negativity.

I choose to look at subjectivity as Earth's art, not delusion.

Illusions are real in our virtual metaphysical supra-physical consciousness.
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Yea, I'm not a huge fan of the whole "self is the deceiving enemy" thing. These thoughts and constructs I build up in my head definitely have some purpose...
 
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