jykkE
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Whenever I stop smoking weed, I can't sleep for a week. Glad I'm done with it, just made me lazy.
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Marijuana withdrawal as bad as withdrawal from cigarettes
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NineStorms
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People who are bagging on burn out, answer me this: are you getting pissed off at him because he's saying there's withdrawal symptoms from weed, and you believe there's no way he can be telling the truth, or are you getting pissed off at him because you think ANY negative publicity on pot is too much negative publicity? I think people are just getting angry here because there's way too much filthy propaganda against pot, and anytime they hear something bad, even if it's true, they're saying to themselves, "Oh great, like we needed this on top of everything else!"
Burn out, I'd agree with you that people are different, and that for some people you can get some withdrawal symptoms that might very well suck, although I think it'd be one in a billion who got worse WD symptoms from pot than from heroin. Are you actually saying pot is worse than cigs or alcohol though? If not, try to include that in your posts, so people don't think you're some type of plant "ruining the movement" or whatever. We all know that the two legal drugs kill far more people in a year than pot ever did in thousands of years, so even though we know our mary jane has a few problems, it still is totally unfair that she's outlawed and behind bars while real killers run loose. Some people think we have to paint her as a flawless angel as a result... she ain't, but she's pretty decent overall
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Burn out, I'd agree with you that people are different, and that for some people you can get some withdrawal symptoms that might very well suck, although I think it'd be one in a billion who got worse WD symptoms from pot than from heroin. Are you actually saying pot is worse than cigs or alcohol though? If not, try to include that in your posts, so people don't think you're some type of plant "ruining the movement" or whatever. We all know that the two legal drugs kill far more people in a year than pot ever did in thousands of years, so even though we know our mary jane has a few problems, it still is totally unfair that she's outlawed and behind bars while real killers run loose. Some people think we have to paint her as a flawless angel as a result... she ain't, but she's pretty decent overall
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pkt
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otb01 said:
No one is saying marijuana is not addictive.
off course you can experience some uncomfortable effects if you quit smoking after a long period of use, but its all in the head!
Insomnia and feeling agitated do not constitute physical WD's!
Cannabis is by definition not a physically addictive substance, this does not mean it is not an addictive substance.
Over zealous drug-lovers?
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
You have to realize a large group of users here on BL that also have experience with opiate withdrawal etc see the withdrawal symptoms from weed to be peanuts whilst you might perceive it to be quite serious.Everything is relative.... but at the end of the day, any form of an addiction is a bad thing and will ultimately cause you grief in the long run no matter what it is.
id like them to do a study where people stopped any regular routines suddenly, hell lets do one where people stop smoking cigarettes, or weed, or a daily routine, no doubt there will be irritability and anger in all the subjects. So by that reasoning we can be totally irrational and say routine withdrawal is the same as smoking cigarettes!!!!!! OH SHIT
In case you didn't notice plenty of people are saying marijuana is 100% not addictive and that anything else is bullshit. I don't see how it isn't physically addictive or why it matters if it is physically addictive or not. An addiction is an addiction.pkt said:No one is saying marijuana is not addictive.
off course you can experience some uncomfortable effects if you quit smoking after a long period of use, but its all in the head!
Insomnia and feeling agitated do not constitute physical WD's!
Cannabis is by definition not a physically addictive substance, this does not mean it is not an addictive substance.
Over zealous drug-lovers?
Everything is relative.... but at the end of the day, any form of an addiction is a bad thing and will ultimately cause you grief in the long run no matter what it is.
When I say overzealous drug lovers, I talk about jackasses here who are in their freshman year of college and go "NO WAY MAANNNN WEED CANT BE ADDYKTV" (addictive misspelled on purpose) because they have smoked a few blunts.
mobblunted
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Nobodys saying marijuana isn't psychologically addictive, I don't know how this thread got off topic but what everyone is saying is that MARIJUANA WITHDRAWAL ISN'T COMPARABLE TO THE WITHDRAWAL CIGARETTES CAUSE.
Alright I see, but that still doesn't make remembering your dreams a "withdrawal symptom", and that would still make it more of a "recovery symptom" like I said.
I think that we can pretty much agree that your full of shit seeing as your the only one still trying argue that THC withdrawal is more serious then nicotine withdrawal.
burn out said:
Alright I see, but that still doesn't make remembering your dreams a "withdrawal symptom", and that would still make it more of a "recovery symptom" like I said.
I think that we can pretty much agree that your full of shit seeing as your the only one still trying argue that THC withdrawal is more serious then nicotine withdrawal.
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NineStorms said:People who are bagging on burn out, answer me this: are you getting pissed off at him because he's saying there's withdrawal symptoms from weed, and you believe there's no way he can be telling the truth, or are you getting pissed off at him because you think ANY negative publicity on pot is too much negative publicity? I think people are just getting angry here because there's way too much filthy propaganda against pot, and anytime they hear something bad, even if it's true, they're saying to themselves, "Oh great, like we needed this on top of everything else!"
Burn out, I'd agree with you that people are different, and that for some people you can get some withdrawal symptoms that might very well suck, although I think it'd be one in a billion who got worse WD symptoms from pot than from heroin. Are you actually saying pot is worse than cigs or alcohol though? If not, try to include that in your posts, so people don't think you're some type of plant "ruining the movement" or whatever. We all know that the two legal drugs kill far more people in a year than pot ever did in thousands of years, so even though we know our mary jane has a few problems, it still is totally unfair that she's outlawed and behind bars while real killers run loose. Some people think we have to paint her as a flawless angel as a result... she ain't, but she's pretty decent overall
sorry but im not going to include some kind of disclaimer about how alcohol and tobacco kill more people in every post i make about weed. that is common knowledge.
as for the withdrawal from heroin compared vs marijuana, i never said pot was worse. what i said was that pot was more addictive to me, psychologically. i never meant to say to compare opiate withdrawal to marijuana withdrawal, what i intended when i said that was to illustrate a completely different point. the point that everyone experiences drugs differently and so you can't assume your own experience applies to everyone else (something which people still aren't getting). marijuana is the most addictive substance (TO ME) that i ever used. no other substance produced the type of compulsive out of control drug seeking behavior in me that marijuana did. when i was a stoner, my entire life revolved around getting stoned and i didn't give a **** about anything else. i only had a mild addiction to opiates and it was much easier for me to give them up than to give up marijuana. i'm not saying the physical dependence produced by marijuana is worse than the physical dependence produced by opiates. im just saying that overall, marijuana was more addictive to me because i liked it a lot more and when i came down from a high, i would get a virtually uncontrollable urge to smoke again. marijuana was like how crack is stereotyped to be, where once you take a hit you can't stop yourself from getting high over and over again. that was just my experience. i know lots of other people who can smoke weed without getting addicted.
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mobblunted
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So what, I was really addicted to marijuana too back when I was in high school. I remember me and my homies would go home and scrape for resin because we didn't have any money to buy some weed, looking back, that was pretty low.
What this threads about is withdrawal symptoms, not if weed is psychologically addicting or not, we all agree that it is, but we also all agree that you cant even compare weed to nicotine withdrawal symptoms.
What this threads about is withdrawal symptoms, not if weed is psychologically addicting or not, we all agree that it is, but we also all agree that you cant even compare weed to nicotine withdrawal symptoms.
mobblunted said:
i never tried to argue that thc withdrawal was worse than nicotine withdrawal. maybe you should actually read what i say before making accusations against me? all i said was that for some people, marijuana is harder to give up than tobacco. key word here is SOME people. and this has been confirmed and proven by the fact that SOME people have responded to this thread saying they had a harder time giving up marijuana than tobacco. so what i am saying has already been PROVEN TRUE just by reading this thread. what are you trying to argue about? also, i never said remembering your dreams was a withdrawal symptom. i said very intense vivid dreams was and like i explained, this is caused by the fact that marijuana disrupts REM sleep and so when some people stop they suffer from REM rebound. this IS a withdrawal symptom. it's considered a withdrawal symptom when it happens with EVERY OTHER DRUG that disrupts REM sleep, so why should marijuana be exempt from this?
mobblunted
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Throughout the thread you swear like weed is a 100X worse then tobacco.
How do you think you come across to people when they read a post like that.
Exactly, this fools retarded.
Anyways, I'm done arguing with you.
The superbowls on. Go GIANTS!!!
burn out said:
How do you think you come across to people when they read a post like that.
Exactly, this fools retarded.
Anyways, I'm done arguing with you.
The superbowls on. Go GIANTS!!!
mobblunted
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Who said anything about marijuana, from your name, I'd guess meth/crack maybe?
But yeah I'm outta here for good too.
But yeah I'm outta here for good too.
mobblunted
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Okay, I didn't specify that you'd smoked yourself retarded with marijuana.
Happy.
I'm really out this time though.
Peace.
Happy.
I'm really out this time though.
Peace.
merrygoround
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burnout, i know what your saying, i'm with you all the way. i think alot of people including myself have experienced major negative psychological and physical effects during and after their abuse on marijuana, but not everyone likes to admit it, or publicly announce it. at least you have the guts to say it. some people were lucky to not be wrapped around mary janes little finger from high school and up, so they wouldn't have a clue what it was like. i got to a point where if i didn't stop smoking it, it would of definately killed me.
mobblunted said:
i still don't get it. i said that marijuana abuse gave me problems and you asked how do i think i come across when i say that. then you said i come across as if i smoked myself retarded. well obviously that would be in reference to marijuana, since that was what i was talking about and i've never even smoked crack or meth. also, why would you use the word smoke if you were implying drugs other than marijuana? you know i could have been shooting or snorting meth. and finally, how do you know i wasn't just retarded to begin with? the bottom line is that the only way your comment could have been construed by someone reading this thread would be that you were saying i smoked myself retarded on marijuana. now obviously, this isn't worth arguing over, frankly i am just confused over what you were trying to say.