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Marijuana is DECRIMINALIZED in the state of California!

Texas makes a compelling argument. few points. As far as myth 11 goes, before this law was passed, smoking was outlawed on the beaches of San Diego. Smoking buds in public was regularly ignored by many but not all cops. I often wondered if they were sanctioned weather or not the penalty for smoking (I don't think the material was specified) would be more severe than the one for possession, if they bothered to impose one.

I thought pot was decriminalized a long time ago by being made a misdemeanor. As a minor, I had the missfortune of being caught with like a dime bag of pot in a small town outside of San Jose with a zealous PD. There were beers in the car, I was 16. My friends got poped for alcohol and I for the pot. Their ticket was higher than mine and they got formal probation and became wards of the court. I got informal probation and my PO made me pay $6 for a class were i ended up meating a few connections.:) Actually sensible policy, etOH is way more harful to youth than MJ. As an adult I got caught with possession of less than an oz twice in San Jose. 1st time in 89'- the cops gave the pot back after sweating us alittle. The second time was in 90 or 91'. He gave me my pot back.

Alaska defacto legalized pot in 75' (year before the dutch) by court order. The feds cracked down but according to Coolio its still legal or decriminalized- he knows the particulars (even though their legislature or their initiated didn't pass).

put, the Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Initiative does not reflect most people’s ideas of what legalization would be. The media often incorrectly reports that this initiative calls for “full legalization” of marijuana

Regulate, control, and especially tax should set off alarm bells in peoples' heads. (Think MJ tax act of 1937')- The government taxes things out of existance as a strategy of flexing there muscle when other avenues are closed to them.

Hope this is positive- hope prop 19 will be a bridge to full legalization in the USA. Will see.
 
see i dont know what that means... you have a small personal sack in minnesota, youre fucked. big ticket maybe ct date.
It does mean different things for each state. Some states like MN, may still have you going to court over it. I believe many of the bills are still being worked on as well, so it's a gradual process...
 
but you have to be caught in your county of residence, that way they are more comfortable that you will show up n pay



lots of Texas cops are pretty stereo typical, particularly in rural areas but in the cities its just like anywhere else, n some cops are kool



the bill that was passed actualy had explicit terminology about it being at each officers discretion



thats a lie, though i dont doubt cops dont care, its most certainly not legal in Austin, just like weed isnt legal in Austin, just no one cares in Austin %)



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It actually is legal for women to be topless not just in Austin, but anywhere in Texas that hasn't made a specific law against it. Here's the law relating to indecent exposure-

Texas Penal Code 21.08 INDECENT EXPOSURE.

(a) A person commits an offense if he exposes his anus or any part of his genitals with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person, and he is reckless about whether another is present who will be offended or alarmed by his act.

(b) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

Breasts do not meet the legal definition of genitalia. I haven't ever seen as many topless women in another part of Texas as I have in Austin.

Cops in Austin also barely care about pot. It is true that under 2 ounces and the cop has the option of ticketing instead of arresting. I know for a fact that people often get let go with a ticket by cops when they have much, much more pot though. Most people who get caught with under 2 ounces have the following happen- the cops either make the person throw away the pot or they take it, then they let the person go without a ticket. It's not decriminalization, but it's not terrible. Rural cops in Texas are the worst.
 
^^ Go spread the propaganda in ANOTHER thread, this isn't the place for it.

Anyway, yeah, Colorado was one of the first states to decrim... its been since at least 2000 now... but I'm glad to hear Cali is catching up!
 
Alaska
California
Colorado
Maine
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Mississippi
Nebraska
Nevada
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon


^^ Have all decriminalized Marijuana

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6331

That's actually pretty surprising and definitely goes against the common perception that us Aussies have about the draconian drug laws in the US (you know, the whole 'war on drugs' thing).

Very interesting that the 'backward' US is much closer to the enlightened state of legalised drug use than other 'progressive' Western nations.

Hopefully we follow the trend (like we usually do with the US) and some medical marijuana clinics start opening up. I'm fucking sick of buying variable quality weed from my deadshit dealer...
 
California Decriminalization technically doesn't go into effect until January 1, 2011 right? I had heard about it changing from misedemeanor to infraction for under an O but was under impression it doesn't take effect until the beginning of next year...

And yes, go out and Vote yes on prop 19
 
Don't be fooled, Cannabis is not decriminalized. It is an infraction and is still illegal in the same way that speeding is still illegal. It might not even be a step in the right direction. Where as many cops in the past would have you throw your weed out- I had mine returned in the 80s twice in the city of San Jose, the fact that it is an infraction sounds like less paperwork for the cop sounds like more incentive to bust someone and fill the states corrupt coffers. Plus, as I think has been pointed out, smoking with someone under 21 but over 18 is a 6 month jail term. In my opinion the legal age to smoke should be 18 but prop 19 has enough hurdles. Vote prop 19- Arnold passed this to derail this proposition.

For sensitive positions that require background checks, infractions that aren't traffic related and criminal convictions overseas are being taken into account. Watch out people of the USA- facsim is becoming a reality as is rule of the invisible hand. Every day, this country is becoming less and less a country "of the people, by the people, and for the people." A place envisioned by our founders, a place were, " the huddle massess yearning to breathe free" can breathe free air or atleast breathe in legal weed.
 
J Spun, I agree with you on this country becoming less and less of a country every day. Completely agree!

But on the whole weed thing, it's LEGALIZED MON. Haha, for real though it's legal now, and even though it's only ounces. That's good enough, we can smoke it up all the time and not worry about the bull shit.

Shit it's always been legal in california, It feels that way to me. With or without a medical card.

Then again who ever worried about get caught with weed? Not I.
 
Ditto. I got busted I Was 16 in a small draconian town. I got cited for weed, my friends for the beer in the car. I got a slap on the wrist- paid 6 dollars and was put on informal probation. My firends on the other hand had to go to court and had the book thrown at them. In San Jose, during the Chief Joseph McNamara years I had weed and pipes given back to me twice, The second time, the cop thought I was on coke, he searched me, didn't find anything ( I was way stoned, pulled into parkafter smoking in car to use restroom. He said your free to go but we have to check your car ( Probably didn't need to consent but that would have created a hassel. I told him where everything was and he stoped searching after I told him were it was- well did a half ass search. After another cop showed up and lectured me during the search that I would go insane (he was getting close to retirement.) The second cop left and this cop said that he had an understanding with the users in the park. If they were honest he wouldn't bust them. He told me to get rid of the pipe and substance that appears to be cannabis to his trained eye before I left the park- which I evetually did several hours latter;). His final words were, "see were honsesty gets you." Fighting drugs was a low priority in the city during that time as far as personal possession in particular if you weren't creating a nuissance. During McKenna's tenure, San Jose, a city of over 850,000 people then (1977-1992) had the lowest crime rate involving property crimes, violent crimes, and murders- and he was a vocal critic of the war on drugs during his term as chief, one of the few in the 80s with the balls to do that, even more remarkable, he was a cop. This is a real life example of the end result when police allocate their resources judiciously. For a 180 degree opposite strategy, look at Daryl Gates, former police chief of LA and Joseph McNamara's contemporary. He was the one that said that drug users are traitors who deserve the death penalty. LA was a rough city- the police was racist and used heavy handed overzelous tactics. What happened during his tenure, anybody Remember Rodney King and the riot of april 26 1992. Vote Yes on prop 19!!! But it is and has been legal in most jurisdictions ( some county's and city's can be alittle backwards still to people with out a card.)
 
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ME, MA, NY, NC all beat you guys by a mile despite your "medical marijuana" bullshit and yet of course iPad carrying Californians think they just passed a historic milestone.

EAST SIDE, BITCHES

Wow dude relax...

West coast never said they did it first...

Anyways: This is great news BUT you have to wait till January till it comes into affect...
 
Wow dude relax...

West coast never said they did it first...

Anyways: This is great news BUT you have to wait till January till it comes into affect...


When I first read your username I thought it said Avril Lavigne.





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Originally Posted by Transcendence
ME, MA, NY, NC all beat you guys by a mile despite your "medical marijuana" bullshit and yet of course iPad carrying Californians think they just passed a historic milestone.

EAST SIDE, BITCHES

and, Wow dude relax...

West coast never said they did it first...

Anyways: This is great news BUT you have to wait till January till it comes into affect...
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Case in point, It is my understanding in the Continenatl USA that The Great state of Alaska on West Coast decreiminalized weed for the firt time in 1975 and then several other states in the lower 40 did so later, mostly on the west coast. Alaska was unique in that cultivation and possession for personal use was defacto legal. At first their was no limit on the amount grown, it had to be on ones property and sale was prohibited. Years later a limit of 4 plants per person was put into place. I think this was repealed by the legislature in the early to mid 90s. Also of note, Alaskan tolerance of Cannabis was enacyted in 1975, this was a whole year before the "progressive Dutchs'" soft drug tolerace. Where as it was tolerated of small amounts in Holland but remained illegal under the opium act, it was legal for all practical purposes on private land. Difference is the Dutch Allowed sale of small amounts.

The first place to outright legalize, that is overturn marijuana prohibition on US soil was The United States Panama Canal Zone in the 1920s. The military that had many bases in the zone pushed for prohibition because they felt it effected morale. They Pressured the Panama government to eneact laws for civilians. The Governor convened a comission to study the "problem" After medical and social studies were conducted, including having a couple of Drs and Canal Zone Police officers under medical prohibition the commission found no reason for the ban and the prohibition was repealed in the 20s (pre MJ Tax stamp act, marijuana madness. In fact the investigators concluded that cannabis was less harmful than alcohol. The republic of Panama repealed their anti cannabis laws soon after, probably the only time that US drug policy had a saltuatory effect on another country. Its an interesting story almost lost to history, I have a thread somewhere in BL. Most of the buds were grown on the west coast of the canal zone and the pacific pearl islands in the republic of Panama. The progenitors to Panama Red most likely.%)
 
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