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marijuana and depression

My experience is that when you're depressed and smoke every day it becomes a cycle, weed becomes "the cause of, and solution to" many issues.

I like it best when i smoke 1-2x per week, i can recuperate and get to really appreciate it.

What also gets me stressed/depressed is the whole "hey man can you get me some bud..." times 10 factor with all my friends. No i can't drive twenty minutes each way, and sit and chat with my dealer/boy for an hour to go get you a twenty spot of herb, yes you're my good friend still...sorry if you see those two things as somehow being at odds with each other. You self centered asshole.
 
Honestly I think it all depends on what strain you're smoking because they can effect you in different ways. Also if you believe that weed is the reason you're depressed then you're going to associate depression with weed and end up feeling depressed. Your mind works wonders sometimes.
 
i am depressed

when I smoke, I still feel depressed, but also high. if I start burning out I feel the need to get higher and so I do.

the next day after smoking (i used to smoke every day, but i cant anymore) i get really depressed.

if you can stay high all day every day without any negatives then the weed will just dull the pains you truly feel inside.
 
Depression can basically be cured with good exercise and a good diet which is subjective to the one eating it do stuff you like ect ect weed shouldnt have much of an affect depression. Everyone is different though.
 
yes exercise and good healthy food help! I ride mountain bikes and it's a fucking great adrenaline ruuuush better than all these drugs. but I can't do it every day cos I'm broke

but I'm baked now so it's all good :D
 
Marijuana always made my depression managable. For example, when I smoked up, the effects gave me a substantial mood lift. And when I couldn't smoke, say at work or school, I would be happy just knowing what waited for me after I completed my obligations. As far as marijuana changing your brain chemestry adding to mood disorders such as depression and bi-polar disorder, I've also heard of this but for me, personally, it didn't effect me negatively in that aspect. I truly believe that marijuana is a good medicine, not just for the physical treatments, but mental also.
 
I am living proof that marijuana can not only exacerbate depression, it can actually cause it. I have been addicted for a very long time and recently I have been smoking up to an ounce per week in bong. I can honestly say I have thrown away years of my life because of this habit, that I have had such extreme difficulty breaking.

Now, I have used mdma and psychedelic drugs extensively, and I was such a chill, intelligent, self accepting and all around wonderful and unique person to begin with that I gained a lot of wisdom into the nature of reality through use of these drugs. I absolutely love life and I strive towards becoming a completely selfless and enlightened being. I have a hell of a lot to live for. I am amazed and inspired by the mysterious beauty of life, and how it is all a lovely creation of my mind.

Using marijuana from morning til night, all day every day, turned me into a monster. Normally I am very social and love smiling at others and making them happy and making as many friends as i can and such. I normally have a lot of confidence and high self esteem. However, as a dope fiend, I am such a useless, miserable burnt out cunt that I have absolutely no idea how I even got into the habit in the first place other than the fact that this stuff is truly addictive (no withdrawal, but a tendency to become a compulsive habit). I mean, I don't even have an addictive personality; I am not normally an individual who is susceptible to compulsive habits of any variety. This drug has been my downfall. Psychs I have no problem using with great respect and moderation but marijuana sucked me right in and stole my fucking soul. I was an utter hate-filled zombie.

Within days of quitting marijuana cold turkey my depression totally lifted. Prior to this, I was a miserable freak for the first few sober days. Which is why the habit is so hard to break - when I am miserable I just want to smoke more dope and wallow in my own self pity like a little pussy. Whining about what I get for being a motivationless zombie. I had become the devil. My self esteem was so low I couldn't even speak to a potential mate. I was so burnt out, paranoid and anxious I couldn't even put a sentence together in a job interview and I am a handsome, muscular young man with a fucking engineering degree. I would never dream at night. I was miserable beyond fucking belief and I was contemplating suicide pretty much all day, every day of my life for months and months. Thinking about slitting my wrists, hitting myself uncontrollably in the head really hard, screaming spontaneously, crying daily, ferocious anger, thinking about hanging my worthless self every fucking day, and this was ENTIRELY due to abusing marijuana. I fucking swear on my life within two days of quitting this shit these problems completely disapparated and have yet to return AT ALL.

Marijuana is a powerful drug that is meant to be used at most maybe once every 2 weeks or something and it can be wonderful in moderation and using it has no doubt made me a more intelligent and laid back man (once I'm off it). I really love how weed has changed me and helped me mature but I absolutely hate how I am when I'm stoned now. When abused this drug becomes SHIT and burns a lot of people out, I have seen it time and time again and a lot of people simply refuse to blame the weed. This denial has a lot to due with the social aspects of being a stoner, but you have to admit to yourself it's shit and it's not good for you. I encourage anyone who is using it habitually, and is depressed to PLEASE for the cosmic love of the universe that all of us are meant to be immersed in, just fucking stop using it. It's garbage. I mean, everyone reacts differently, but if you used to be happy before you started blazing hard, chances are you should smash the fuck out of your bong and start living a happier life TODAY before it's too late.
 
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powdakilla said:
i had an epiphany a week ago about my pot usage that might help some of you. I've been an every day (frequentley all day) smoker for around 14 years now. I know i was depressed when i started smoking weed, but it took it all away for a solid four or five years. It was a good routine till some shit happened, and then i relaized i was still depressed and had just been masking it. So... I'm 21-22 on medication and still a pot head.
I thought that medication would solve my problems, after all i was depressed before i started smoking, now i'm on meds for that, so i kept right on blazing. To make a long story short, i'm 30 now, and still a chronic pot smoker and still suffer from really serious depression (i'm on meds, success right now with wellbutrin).
My point is that through all the years i used pot to turn off my brain, and to turn down the volume on those unsettling thoughts (you're smoking your life away, you're becoming a loser,you're losing your friends etc,etc), that depression has a way of never letting you forget.
Recently i went through some more shit, and discovered that no matter how much i smoke, that voice (not literally a voice, i'm not schizo), just doesn't want to turn down anymore. And once i've smoked i lose a good part of any rational analytical ability i might have had regarding my thoughts. It's like when i'm stoned my thoughts and emotions affect me on a much deeper level, and i have much less control over them. So... I smoke, feel good for five minutes, and then literally within another five, i want to get stoned again.
But it doesn't make a difference anymore, because i've discovered you can only turn yourself off to your real problems with drugs for so long, before you have to increase the dose for it to be effective, and you can keep increasing for awhile, and deal with the issue that way, but a drug like pot is only going to work for so long, for me i've basically got the choice to switch to a stronger drug to deal with the pain in my life, or try the one thing i haven't made an effort at to cure my depression; which is quitting weed, because it's hard, and it's scary to lose a big part of my identity (even though i don't want it to be anymore), and it's frightening to think about if it's not pot causing my depression, and i'm just going to have to deal with being fucked in the head for the rest of my life.
So today is day one of what is going to be a one month attempt at sobriety, i'm 30, unemployed, have no friends, had a knee surgery 6 weeks ago that's going to keep me off work for another two months, haven't gotten laid in a year, and pot feels like the one thing that's bringing me happiness in my life right now, and that seems a little wrong to me.
So good luck to everyone who's dealing with depression, i hope you find what works for you, and i hope at least a few of you stoners read this whole thing!
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man fucking quit smoking that shit it is ruining your life. I'm very glad I'm not you, I'm only 23 so there is still time. I've only ruined like 3 years of my life and that is enough for me. Although since deep down inside I've got a lot of fight in me I will NEVER allow something like this to happen. It sounds like you're a weak minded pussy and the dope is 100% the cause of that. There is no reason to be a recluse in this world, man there are lovely, accepting people everywhere and you have to realize that you are creating this misery yourself by choice. You have a zero percent chance of getting better if you don't quit. Are you just gonna keep giving up? No offense but you need to fucking hear it from someone, just like i did. People will tell you it isn't the dope but the dope effects those people in a different way. you need to get the fuck off this fucking garbage drug. It needs to be cold turkey because people like us have absolutely no self control with this drug. I guarantee you will see huge increases in motivation and self esteem if you stop. STOP TODAY AND SMASH YOUR BONG.That post is helping me out because I know if i don't keep up my sobriety when I'm 30 I'll be living a similar life.
 
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you were using weed as an escape, no wonder it only ended up hurting you and amplifying your depression. I hope more people can realize that on their own, but unfortunately not everyone treats it as a drug.
 
I was not really using it as an escape. In fact I was using it to learn more about the nature of reality and to help myself grow as a person. Then I got hooked on it. I have a wonderful life and nothing I need to escape from. It was not amplifying my depression because I am not normally depressed at all. Normally I am enthusiastic and happy all the time. The weed was the outright cause of every problem in my life and smoking it became the only way to ease the pain that was caused by the weed fucking my head up in the first place.

Unfortunately, some people get addicted to weed like any other drug that feels good. My psychological attachment to marijuana is no less significant than that of a junkies to heroin. It happened when I was a yound stupid teenager, didn't know what I was getting myself into at all and since then I have learned my lesson and haven't developed a single other addiction. But as many of us know, addictions are very difficult to break and they can become a viscious cycle.

I'm really not anti-weed but people are being ignorant here if they cannot accept that marijuana can right fuck people's heads up, get them hooked and throw their motivation and self esteem out the window as they compulsively reach for the bong, all the while realizing what they are doing to themselves but unable to quit because they are too burnt out to form willpower related thoughts when they can just get high again and also because of the weed-based lifestyle they have created for themselves. It's never the weed though it's the lack of self control of the addict. I take full responsibility for the way weed affected me and I'm only happy I have the maturity to admit to myself that I have a serious drug problem but it has taken a long while. Now I must exercise constant vigilence and I've been doing really, really well lately. So well that I would be a fool to ever smoke the stuff again, especially when there are other enlightening drugs available to me such as LSD that I have no problem controlling my use of because I started using them when I was more mature. High school kids should not be smoking dope or doing any drugs at all because most of them know jack shit about life, are immature and don't research what they are getting themselves into. I will never make the mistake of disrespecting a drug again, and the great thing about weed is that there are no long term problems from it at all. I was back to my normal self very quickly which never would have been the case if it was something like mdma.

This is all for the sake of harm reduction, and I'm just pointing out that abusing marijuana can have extremely harmful consequences to certain types of people. And I really find it hard to believe that any physically healthy and emotionally stable person in this world is better off using marijuana habitually than not.
 
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Even though you called me a weak minded pussy, I totally agree with you about some of the things you said about pot. It is easy for some people to get addicted, and 15 years ago when I started smoking (before the net was everywhere and info was so accessible), there was only really two kinds of pot literature easily available. Anti pot; you get hooked on smack, end up on the streets type shit, and high times style pro pot propaganda that's not really any better; weed is NOT addictive at all etc.
And it's not like heroin or crack where there's the social stigma of being an addict, you see so many people do it out here (vancouver Canada) it seems really harmless at first. But a person has to take responsibility for their actions eventually. @ rave it's real fun...I'm glad my mistakes have motivated you in whatever way they did; after making a lot of mistakes around pot and mental health, I wouldn't wish where I'm at right now on anyone.
Fwiw, I stayed sober all week, this weekend I had a few beers and a couple of joints on Saturday night, remembered how much more fun it is to get buzzed once in awhile and really laugh hysterically, motivation to keep it up.
 
As everyone has probably noticed, different people react to different drugs in their own ways. Personally I've gone through different situations in my life while smoking almost if not quite daily, taking the occasional break.
I've tried to asses how different lengths without weed affected my mental state, and have come to the conclusion that in my case it won't cause, but neither will it ease a depressed state.
IMO: Marijuana is a good tool for easing acute bad feelings. It takes the worst edge off of the worst feeling, and lets one view the situation without the overly negative mindset.
But no chemical substance is an answer to problems arising from something else, as long as the problem isn't a neurochemical one (I suppose.).
So as blunt as it may sound: Find out for yourself. Take a few days off maybe? Even if taking a break doesn't do anything else it'll at least provide the desired answers. ;)
 
sometimes when i used to smoke weed would make me feel quite down and anxious, used to end up thinking bad shit and then over anayalizing it, so it could easily add to depression or make somebody depressed. or simply fuck your life up due to becoming an unmotivated loser. cannabis is easily abuse able
 
powdakilla i'm sorry if that offended you- i was pretty harsh- i just think pot effects us in a similar way and i want to help you understand that it is the marijuana doing this to you. it's hard to believe; it took years to admit this to myself. i mean, i was in love with mary jane. for people like us, it doesn't matter if you're normally very self confident and hardheaded, once we get on the dope hard it turns us into burnouts. and i really believe that you will see drastic positive changes if you cut back a lot. by the way, i haven't been laid since november and there is absolutely no reason for that, girls are a dime a dozen - again, i think we are experiencing similar states of mind from overusing pot. and by the way i am canadian too and it just seems like everyone is smoking so much pot around here. and the pot is so fucking strong. once you immerse yourself in the stoner culture it can be very difficult to get out when you realize it has become a problem, especially when it isn't widely recognized to have negative effects like the ones we are experiencing. i feel for you and wish you the best, just keep in mind that although smoking occasionally can be great fun once you cut back, it is easy to fall back into endless chronic use. for this reason i am quitting cold turkey; i no longer trust myself using marijuana at all. good luck, and once again i know it doesn't feel good to hear yourself being called a weak minded pussy, so i apologize. you have enough going on as it is. I guarantee the non-marijuana abusing version of you is not like that at all.

pot was affecting my ability to communicate with others in such a negative way that i began abusing mdma for a little while as well. i did it roughly 20 times last year which is obviously way too much, but i came to my senses and stopped using before experiencing any side effects. rolling was the only way i could get out of the pot burnout and party, be myself in social scenarios. i haven't used it yet this year and have no plans to use it any time soon because i have been getting very high on life lately and i don't need it anymore. although i can see myself using it maybe once a year or something because it certainly is a hell of a good time and it has yet to have anything but a positive impact on my life.

i also used coke every weekend from september to december. it wasn't anywhere near as good as mdma but when combined with booze it did the trick and cured my pot burnout. and i had done so much mdma that i was beginning to worry about my brain, so i switched to coke. looking back i cannot believe i went through that, it was totally due to thc-induced burnout. it was the most frustrating time of my life. i really am a great guy and have a lot going for me: very smart, attractive, social, compassionate, chill, enthusiastic, outgoing and humble with high self esteem, i'm jacked but i wouldn't hurt a fly and i would have been getting loads of pussy at the time but i was tranquilized and all alone in my pot addled world, unable even to look a girl in the eyes and smile unless i was on hard drugs. see that's the thing: i have no problem cycling 200k in a day, lifting weights hardcore or doing advanced mathematics while stoned, it just right fucks my social skills. so i suppose marijuana, when abused became a "gateway" drug for myself but it was also the root of my problems. i have not done coke in 6 months and never, ever will again. i have absolutely no use for that shit anymore, as a stoner it seemed like the greatest idea in the world but now that my mind has cleared out i'm frankly disgusted by my past behaviour. by the way, i never felt any addictive pull towards coke whatsoever. the only drug that has ever exhibited in myself uncontrollable, compulsive tendencies to constantly redose is marijuana. i was using hard drugs out of loneliness.

anyways, i discovered lsd a few months ago and it has sparked a wonderful period of personal growth and self discovery. i no longer feel the desire to use any drugs on a regular basis at all. all it takes is an imagination to trip. i am choosing a straight sober life with the occasional, intelligent use of acid, and i haven't been at it for long but i have already seen extremely positive changes in myself.
 
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laCster said:
anything can cause depression depending on the degree of consumption...
...if you masturbate all day youll feel like shit and like a nobody, same with playing
video games in excess and eating in excess....
..i've been on some binges in my life and at the time they were fun but the days following it were even worse
the key is to smoke only once or twice a day at night to wind down, i found it is soo much more rewarding and you get ripppedd
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True That
 
It's getting to the point where its uncomfortable for me to hang out with my best friends because we inevitably get blazed and have fuck-all to talk about anymore. These are some of the most charismatic people I know, friends I've had since primary school and once we get stoned it's like we're too shy to say anything to each other.

Pot is the most efficient slayer of social skills I know of. And the thing is, you'd think that after smoking chronically for years you'd learn to function normally stoned but it just gets worse not better. The painful introversion and over-analysis becomes the new normal.

I think when I'm stoned I just have a poor self-image for some reason. I'm far from socially retarded, I'm decent looking, I have a lot of interests, but when I'm stoned and meet new people (and it seems like I'm stoned 99% of the time when I meet someone) all I can think is "they think I'm a creep". That of course makes you shrink from being social and further reinforces the feeling. I never had confidence issues before.

I'm 21 and I have no interest in chasing pussy or hanging at bars...and when I do put myself out there I keep thinking that I'd much rather be at home smoking by myself. I just love the process of smoking so much and 100% of my friends are stoners. I've had more success quitting opiates than quitting pot because I could isolate myself from the opiates but smoking weed is a way of life around here.
 
Transcendence said:
It's getting to the point where its uncomfortable for me to hang out with my best friends because we inevitably get blazed and have fuck-all to talk about anymore. These are some of the most charismatic people I know, friends I've had since primary school and once we get stoned it's like we're too shy to say anything to each other.

Pot is the most efficient slayer of social skills I know of. And the thing is, you'd think that after smoking chronically for years you'd learn to function normally stoned but it just gets worse not better. The painful introversion and over-analysis becomes the new normal.

I think when I'm stoned I just have a poor self-image for some reason. I'm far from socially retarded, I'm decent looking, I have a lot of interests, but when I'm stoned and meet new people (and it seems like I'm stoned 99% of the time when I meet someone) all I can think is "they think I'm a creep". That of course makes you shrink from being social and further reinforces the feeling. I never had confidence issues before.

I'm 21 and I have no interest in chasing pussy or hanging at bars...and when I do put myself out there I keep thinking that I'd much rather be at home smoking by myself. I just love the process of smoking so much and 100% of my friends are stoners. I've had more success quitting opiates than quitting pot because I could isolate myself from the opiates but smoking weed is a way of life around here.
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Hail to that.. Well said.. And what you have said in the last paragraph the same is going on for me.. Stoners and Cannabis are like EVERYWHERE, i have tons and tons of friends that smoke on a daily basis and for where i go there will be one friend that do a joint to smoke.. Its a vicious cycle
 
Transcendence said:
It's getting to the point where its uncomfortable for me to hang out with my best friends because we inevitably get blazed and have fuck-all to talk about anymore. These are some of the most charismatic people I know, friends I've had since primary school and once we get stoned it's like we're too shy to say anything to each other.

Pot is the most efficient slayer of social skills I know of. And the thing is, you'd think that after smoking chronically for years you'd learn to function normally stoned but it just gets worse not better. The painful introversion and over-analysis becomes the new normal.

I think when I'm stoned I just have a poor self-image for some reason. I'm far from socially retarded, I'm decent looking, I have a lot of interests, but when I'm stoned and meet new people (and it seems like I'm stoned 99% of the time when I meet someone) all I can think is "they think I'm a creep". That of course makes you shrink from being social and further reinforces the feeling. I never had confidence issues before.

I'm 21 and I have no interest in chasing pussy or hanging at bars...and when I do put myself out there I keep thinking that I'd much rather be at home smoking by myself. I just love the process of smoking so much and 100% of my friends are stoners. I've had more success quitting opiates than quitting pot because I could isolate myself from the opiates but smoking weed is a way of life around here.
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wow!!I have been smoking pot for over 10 years,on a daily basis and that stuff totally makes sense!
I still dont know how to motivate myself to give up,as im epileptic too and it helps me control my seizures.
The benefits i have gotten from its use have not all been bad,only the social part!
I do think it it has made me want to learn me and focus on real things in life!
and made me a better person in ways!
 
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