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March staying clean thread

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Well I fucked up. This past friday I found a open suboxone wrapper that I hadn't seen before while rummaging around trying to find some subs, and there was about 6mg in it. I immediately said to my self that I should take it, that I'm gonna hate myself if I do, and what do you know once I ran out I was soooo fucking pissed with myself. I'm starting to WD once again, and am on day 2 instead of day 17. I got myself a bottle of 96 loperamide and a bottle of DXM, so I took ~20mg of loperamide and ~140mg of DXM (I have a heavy NMDA antagonist tolerance so it should not give me really any psychotropic effects). I gotta quit for real this time. Not surprised that I relapsed for a few days, cuz if there are opioids about, its beyond easy to say fuck it, I just want to feel good. I was hoping the WD wouldn't be as bad since i only had 6 mg over 3.5 days, but it feels like I'm completely starting over. Still.. At this moment I'm craving a nice shot of heroin, or a few oxys (fucking even some codeine).

If you can hang on a bit, the withdrawal will probably be of shorter duration than the first set. I quit in January, and thought "well, okay past 15 days and I can still use the oxycodone as needed for spine pain". Every single time I did I got a dose of withdrawal, but the first one was at least only maybe 2-3 days of it rather than the 10-11 that proceeded it... 2 extended flares of pain, and I'm here in March repeating the same wonderful process on day 9 1/2. I'm not angry with myself for being here now, but I sure wish I had just stuck it out for a few days then, and got it over with rather than having to go through the whole process all over again. The sad and screwed up part of it: the oxycodone really didn't help the spine pain much at all. So I put myself through the whole thing again for essentially just a learning experience that it wouldn't work on the pain I have left. Lovely, eh?

I feel your pain. Hang in there. All of this will pass in a very short period of time.
 
I am SO sorry you are struggling, Firebird..insomnia is THE WORST part of WDs for me, made worse by the fact that there is not a damned OTC med that touches mine. When I am lying there trying to sleep, that is when the anxiety and nervousness go round and round. Please hang in there, there will be a day when you wake up and think "wow, I slept through a whole night" and that is THE BEST feeling in the world.

Peace and strength to you,

C.

Hi CC,

I just finished sleeping for eight hours for the third night in a row!

The RLS went 99% away 8 hours after that last post, too,
haven't had hardly any for a day and a half.

I'm still doing an ambien to keep my sleep cylce on track,
but I think I am going to cut them in half for four days and quit
taking them after that.

Day 22, three weeks down,
I feel like I'm coming out on the other side, woohoo! :D

Keep going you guys! <3
 
Hi CC,

I just finished sleeping for eight hours for the third night in a row!

The RLS went 99% away 8 hours after that last post, too,
haven't had hardly any for a day and a half.

I'm still doing an ambien to keep my sleep cylce on track,
but I think I am going to cut them in half for four days and quit
taking them after that.

Day 22, three weeks down,
I feel like I'm coming out on the other side, woohoo! :D

Keep going you guys! <3

=D
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Man I'm freaking out because I'm so bored. Im fine when I hang out with people, but on a day that I'm just chilling at home I can't handle being by myself.
 
Getting clean is HARD!!! I have been through opate withdrawal at least a dozen times. My last go-around a little over a year ago I went to a Suboxone doctor and was pscribed 2 8mg strips a day, then I was diagnosed with oral cancer under my tounge (go figure). Not saying that the films caused the cancer but not being a drinker or smoker it was kind of suspicious. I needed surgery to remove the mass and ended up back on opiates again for post-op pain. I was on opiates long enough to mask the suboxone withdrawal (about 6 weeks) but have been using again recreationally up until 7 days ago. Ugh.........
 
Just chilling at home watching TV makes me want to get really high. High on anything at this point. I'd kill for a dose of ketamine, an opioid of course, hell even some coke or meth. Weed would be nice but since I'm broke I can only smoke a few times a week (which is good, but Id like to smoke everyday when I get off from work). Blah. I gotta find something to distract me. Chilling with friends help but I can't necessarily see them every day.
 
Just chilling at home watching TV makes me want to get really high. High on anything at this point. I'd kill for a dose of ketamine, an opioid of course, hell even some coke or meth. Weed would be nice but since I'm broke I can only smoke a few times a week (which is good, but Id like to smoke everyday when I get off from work). Blah. I gotta find something to distract me. Chilling with friends help but I can't necessarily see them every day.

I'm the same way. When I'm bored I crave. Hang in there <3 Like you said, distraction is key. Have you tried exercise?
 
A bit, but its real cold out (I live in the mountains) and when you are WDing the cold is absolutely terrible.

When I work, I feel decent through out the day (not as bored), even if I hate the fact that I have to get up at 3am to work at 4. I just gotta force myself to get to work which is the hardest part.
 
^ I agree. I'm in the cold too. Much <3 to you...

Today I'm having cravings intense as fuck. I've been clean of opiates since march 3, why am I still craving? I feel like I'm gonna go fucking insane from them... When will they stop?? :( Today is not a good day.
 
RX - same here, two days ago was pretty good, yesterday not so much.
I think the W/D's start to manifest more like long, slow waves after a while.
I expect it will be better again tomorrow, hang in there.
 
It's such an emotional roller coaster. I just want everything to even out so I can be genuinely happy without drugs. I'm clean. I got clean. I should be elated! I'm proud of myself and happy for myself, don't get me wrong- but I still feel a degree of emptiness.
 
Ain't it just. Now comes the hard part. Bet you thought you'd just done that, didn't you? When you've got a habit it seems like it's the withdrawal that's the real obstacle, the thing that's most insurmountable, and if we can just get through it everything will be well again, but really that's the easy bit. It's just the beginning.

The reason we become heroin addicts is because it fills the hole that each of us carries within us. We all have one. It fits it beautifully, it's the exact right shape, it fills it to completion and that's what makes heroin so attractive. You're rediscovering the hole it filled, and doesn't it feel a big one? From this moment on filling the hole that's left, the hole that's always been there with something better will be your life's work. Striving for wholeness is our human condition.

Be strong. <3
 
12 days clean from heroin today :) Sleep schedule is soo messed up its rough. To sleep ~6 hours I gotta take trazodone and clonidine before bed and then when I wake up 2-3 hours later I eat some more clonidine. Very rough getting out of the bed these days but im doing it, hitting meetings everyday.
 
Ain't it just. Now comes the hard part. Bet you thought you'd just done that, didn't you? When you've got a habit it seems like it's the withdrawal that's the real obstacle, the thing that's most insurmountable, and if we can just get through it everything will be well again, but really that's the easy bit. It's just the beginning.

The reason we become heroin addicts is because it fills the hole that each of us carries within us. We all have one. It fits it beautifully, it's the exact right shape, it fills it to completion and that's what makes heroin so attractive. You're rediscovering the hole it filled, and doesn't it feel a big one? From this moment on filling the hole that's left, the hole that's always been there with something better will be your life's work. Striving for wholeness is our human condition.

Be strong. <3

So nicely put Sepher, you took my emotions and words right from me and put them in writing. It actually made me tear up because it touched me so much. Thank you <3.
 
You aren't alone in craving them some. Day 12 off of morphine, oxycodone, and a mess of other stuff. I find the apathy, demotivation, and general depressive malaise very tiresome when I'm trying to get stuff done. I think "I can cure this real quick" ... and I could, but it would work for about 4 hours, and then, not so much.

They seem to hit the worst when I'm bored (which has been a real struggle), extremely tired, lonely, hungry, or highly stressed over something. Correcting any of the above seems to solve the craving; maybe that helps you some if you get the same thing.

I drove out to the country today with a friend. We built a nice fire by the side of the river, watched the birds, and just talked a long while. I don't feel so depressed and down today. Demotivated? I'll come back to that one to answer later. At least I got out for awhile. I couldn't even stomach facing people yesterday, and blew off anything I could. Isolation probably doesn't help, but I was pushing it with being tired to do something I didn't want to do -- even if it might have been helpful. The level of depression after has been a bit of a shocker to me as I didn't get this effect the last time around. I guess I had different expectations than I did this time, and that might have something to do with it. Or maybe I just felt better because I still thought I could use some of it for pain now and again, and it didn't hit me quite the same way that this is "no mas", and it has to be, you know?
 
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I have been clean since march 1st (something like that) and i still get cravings for heroin as if it were water or something. It really drives me crazy some days, but they say this gets better with time... one can only hope...
 
hi everybody,

I'm new to BL, and this is my first post, though perusing the site has been a hobby ever since I was a lonely seventeen year old nerd and only had an apple to smoke weed out of.

I'm twenty now, yet in those short three years drugs changed me completely. I fell in love with them - all of them. Weed, booze, vics, OCs, psychedelics both mainstream and obscure, xanies, amphetamines, coke, and my favorite of all, the first real love of my life whose name still makes me quiver a little bit, Molly.

Almost immediately, drugs were not a social thing for me. They were a solution. They promised me freedom. If I had drugs, I no longer had to worry about responsibilities, because nothing mattered except feeling good in the moment. I no longer had to listen to my inner monologue of self-hate - that demon in my brain that tells me I'm never good enough, or cool enough, or whatever enough to be accepted for who I am. Molly especially allowed me to feel like I could finally love and be loved forever and ever (forever? forever-ever? forever-ever?!) by true friends. Haha, the odd thing was that most of the time I binged on Molly alone. My idea of a good night? A gram and a half of molly, some weed, a fully charged iPod, a car, and the city of Portland.

You know the story: my pursuit of drugs soon became destructive. I stopped giving a single fuck about college. I lied. I stole. I almost died several times (duh, you probably figured that out, I drove high every time I did Molly). I did shit I didn't want to do yet HAD to; in those times it felt like my body was being puppeteer-ed by some power greater than me. I couldn't have stopped it if I'd tried.

My parents are both drug addicts with over 25 years clean (this shit runs in families), so even though I told myself I was different and could handle it, I knew in the back of my mind I was an addict too. You can only suffer through so many drug-related crises before you start thinking you actually have a problem. So I tried to get clean. I relapsed many many times. I moved back in with my parents. I relapsed there too several times. But eventually I realized that if I continued using, I'd die or go to prison. I HAD to stop. But I didn't know how. This is where going to meetings, talking to people, and doing step work really helped me. I've been clean for six months now, and fuck...just writing about my using like this makes me grateful I'm not using today.

HOWEVER, as you can tell from my presence on BL, I think about drugs almost every day, and still miss getting high. I REALLY want to get high. Not right now when I'm living with my parents, but when I finally move out, I've started thinking that I probably will go get high, even though I really don't want to have to return to the misery drugs gave me. I feel empty. I just want to roll. I think (probably speciously) that I can do it right this time, that I can moderate my drug use, that I can live a successful fulfilling life in which I just get high occasionally.

But I know I could never get high just occasionally. When i think about buying molly, for instance, I think about buying like 5 grams, JUST FOR MYSELF. That's crazy right? I'm an addict right? Choosing to use would kinda be a slow form of suicide, wouldn't it? Being clean gets easier, right? Fuck.

Sooooo yeah. Part of me hopes I stay clean, part of me hopes I get loaded, but all of me hopes that someone can get something helpful out of this rambling post.

ttyl
 
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