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Males feelings about having intellegent/educated SO's

Nihilist

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Just hoping to get some feedback about what the guys on this forum think about having female SO's who are intellegent and/or well educated, and how it affects their relationships. I always thought that the general consensus on the issue is that that these are valued traits that people admire in their partners. However the attitude of my boyfriend sometimes makes me wonder...

I'm at the end of my four-year bachelor's degree at uni. I'm considered to be fairly intellegent (at least in an academic sense), quite articulate and I'm someone who's always prided myself on my grades and worked hard at school. My boyfriend is a little different. Now, he's an extremely smart, mentally 'sharp' man, (frighteningly so at times) but he's never taken his education seriously. He mucked around at school and spent most of his time there getting drunk, high, and in a lot of trouble, and then left to go to work as soon as he was legally allowed. Nor is he all that articulate (more out of lack of practise than anything) and tends to back up his arguments with "fuck this, fuck that, fuck you" etc.

He constantly criticises me for not living "in the real world' (as opposed to being at uni) and gets defensive and abusive during arguments/debates where I'm trying to get him to discuss something that involves deeper thought. Usually, he's the one who starts the debates, but it appears that he doesn't like being challenged. Moreover, he's never expressed any sort of appreciation for my traits and seems to consider my education, and education in general as something of a joke. This can be very hurtful at times. Further, there have been times when we've been out in a group (usually with his friends who have a similar background to him) and people will be debating something and I'll put in my two cents worth. He seems to get irritated with me for arguing my point and has said to me in the past "You shouldn't try to argue with those guys. You're from a different world to them. They just wont get what you're on about".


To be fair, i've never intentionally acted superior to my bf or tried to put him down or anything like that. Nor do I try and push him into being something he's not. However, I don't feel like I should be acting differently to the person I really am and sometimes it feels like he prefers it more when I sit there and smile and agree with everything he says. I once asked him why he valued my companionship and he said that he values the fact that he's got someone to sit and talk to, to mull problems over with and to have someone to help him sort out problems. So, as you can probably understand, i'm a little confused...

I don't know whether it's something that we can deal with over the course of the relationship, or if its something that's going to come between us. It does worry me. I've asked him in the past why he gets so defensive and abusive and he's replied "because i'm working class. That's what working class people do. I dont have any reason to change."

I'm just wondering what other guys think about the whole issue.
 
DigitalDuality said:
If he's insecure, you don't need to belittle him to make him feel stupid. Talking with a wider vocabulary .. or about topics he knows nothing or little about to add to a discussion will do it on its own.

As I said, this is the last thing I do. If I do make him feel this way then it certainly isn’t intentional. I’ve told him a million times how much I appreciate him and how smart I think he is. As previously stated, I rarely put forward topics for debate out of the blue. Usually, he’s the one who wants to argue about something, and I just put forward my viewpoint the way I see it. I guess maybe I see things from a fairly unique perspective, and maybe this throws him or makes him feel insecure. I don’t know. I certainly don’t make an effort to use vocabulary that he won’t understand. I just refuse to back down on something where I feel like I have a valid point to make, and/or resorting to defending myself with something alone the lines of “You’re stupid, I’m right, you're wrong, just deal with it.”


DarthMom said:
the more of your posts i read, the more i think you need to dump that asshole quicker than a fly can find some shit.

I’m aware of your POV in regards to ‘that asshole’. I guess I don’t blame you – some of the things I’ve written about him aren’t all that complimentary. However, he does have some wonderful qualities that make me stick with him. In his defence, he’s stuck by me at times when everyone else has abandoned me, and as far as I can tell, he does want the best for me – even if we don’t necessarily agree on what the ‘best’ thing actually is.

Every relationship has its problems, and I’m the first to admit that I’m a very complex and difficult person to deal with. He certainly has his faults and we’re both very stubborn, hot-tempered and wilful people. Maybe some people would give up on the relationship but I’m not quite ready to just yet. I know I have a gigantic enormous list of faults, but I AM a very loyal person and I see things through to the end come hell or high water – this relationship is no different.
 
oooooh that was good dd, like Dr phil quality good.

:D

seriously, nihilist, i am sorry i am not contributing anything much more than the negative comments towards your so, but you have to understand, no matter how much good someone can have, when you bring up bad things that are just oh-so-fucking-bad....it doesn't matter.

good luck sweetie.
 
You don't want a guy if he wants you to be dumb.

My wife has two masters degrees and is smarter than me in a lot of ways. I wouldn't have it any other way. What happens if you marry a dullard? The wild sex will someday dwindle, and you're left with someone you actually have to TALK to.
 
DarthMom said:
the more of your posts i read, the more i think you need to dump that asshole quicker than a fly can find some shit.

I was kinda thinking hte opposite way around but ya, seperation would be best..
 
It's easier to trick a stupid woman to give you pussy than an intelligent one who figures out in 0,001 seconds, that you just want to have some pussy. This way, it's easier to build a relationship with a dumb chick, when you get along with her from the first place, it needs more work to get involved with an intelligent one, so I guess that's why intelligent women does not have SOs as often as the dumber chicks.

In my case it would be 50/50. I would enjoy having conversations with an intelligent woman and then again I'd enjoy fucking a dumber chick. When talking about a long-lasting relationship, I think I'd like to hook up with a intelligent chick rather than a stupid one. When woman gets old the pussy looses it's tightness and finally you're just left with conversations, so intelligent chick would be more fun in the long run.

A dumb chick would probably be rather annoying if you'd have to listen that blah blah stupid chick's stupid talk for 247.

I'm confused at the current moment!
 
Yes i agree with most the guys here, give me a girl who is intelligent anyday, especially if she wears glasses, oooo hot girl that wears glasses = awesome :)

Maybe you should date someone who doesn't try and bring you down just because you value education and intelligence and he values 'the real world' and tries to not let you voice your opinion in front of others...goodluck :)
 
"Intellegence"? ;)

All kidding aside, I couldn't be with someone who did not value me as an intellectual equal. I couldn't be with someone who belittled me for my success. You're getting a kick in the ass when you deserve a pat on the back. But I wonder if the biggest problem here isn't the division in class/education/opportunity... it's the fact that he shows a pattern of disrespect that brings out the worst in you.
 
i prefer women to be smart and sensible. not necessarily "well-educated" but i wouldnt want to be with someone who didnt have things together
 
I like intelligent men and women.
I would move in and have a monogamous relationship with a good friend of mine that has his post doctorate.
 
People from different worlds i find have to work a bit harder to make a relationship work. It involves mutual respect and understanding of the other persons life and values.
 
I hate smart bitches. Dating a smartie is bad bad news and there are no two ways about it. They will always talk back and it's so much harder to trick them into letting you bang their sister. Smart chicks are erection repellant. Them academic feelies make my penis resign from active duty permanently.

Hooking up with good looking stupid chicks is great! I highly recommend everyone do it. You don't have to sit there and pretend to care about what they are talking about. You can say the dumbest fucking thing on earth, just throw in a few big boy words like "tandem", "diametric" and "alabaster" and they'll think you're a bona fide genius and worship your superior brain power.

Trust me, I'm like crack to these bitches!
 
it is within my experience that a smarter a girl is, the dumber the choices she makes in relationships. perhaps this is due to some kind of power/control thing. still, i'd take a smartie over a dumbass anytime.

This guy reminds me exactly of someone I know who can only be described in the following way. "Doesn't know who he is, what he wants, where he is going or why he wants to go there." You remind me of the girl thats trying to help him. Maybe you can, maybe you can't.
 
Benefit said:
I hate smart bitches. Dating a smartie is bad bad news and there are no two ways about it. They will always talk back and it's so much harder to trick them into letting you bang their sister. Smart chicks are erection repellant. Them academic feelies make my penis resign from active duty permanently.

Hooking up with good looking stupid chicks is great! I highly recommend everyone do it. You don't have to sit there and pretend to care about what they are talking about. You can say the dumbest fucking thing on earth, just throw in a few big boy words like "tandem", "diametric" and "alabaster" and they'll think you're a bona fide genius and worship your superior brain power.

Trust me, I'm like crack to these bitches!

oh god your didactic diametric alabaster gave me such a tandem!
 
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