Heroin Making a snortable powder out of tar using cocaine- takes away the burn

[blime84]

I do this every so often when i get bored... I have read many times you can add lactose to tar to make it a snortable powder, but that just dilutes your tar, so i started doing it with coke. I do a 50/50 cut, the resulting powder is a light brown/greyish powder. The first line stings just a little, but then subsequent ones do not sting at all, which is a great improvement on cutting it with some inactive ingredient.
quick process description:
*Note the tar I am using is higher quality stuff, less cut, rock hard, obsidian tar which shatters like glass.
I usually do about .2 of coke to .2 of tar. I use the small pebbles from my bag, push it all together into 1 pile, cover with a piece of plastic or a card, then mash it with a bic lighter or something else heavy then quickly hammer it.
Lift the card, scrape everything off, then back together, repeat the stomping process. After this, I take a razor blade and chop up any larger pieces remaining until its a pretty fine powder, then mash 1 more time, then chop again with a razor blade.
At this point you should have a pretty fine, uniform colored powder. This can be packed into a bullet or cut into lines. I find its a nice alternative when smoking or slamming are not an option. a way to stay well and alert at the same time, perfect mid-work day.

Wondering if anyone else ever does this?
If so, what ratio do you use?(I have experimented increasing the amount of tar, but too much and it won't stay a fine powder, starts to clump.
Also, what are your thoughts on the high?

I don't shoot speedballs, but I assume this mixture can also be cooked up and shot if one so desires. My goal was just to have a decent strength opiate to snort. Considering high quality Tar can reach 90% purity(range is 60-90%, doing this mix will leave you with a snortable heroin which is still 30-45% pure with a little coke kick/numb to make it easier to down. Its probably comparable to street heroin you get off the streets on the east coast, but with an extra bonus high(unless you are one of the lucky people buying stamps on the east coast who can get ones which are more pure(friends of mine from NYC say that most stamps are much weaker than good tar, except for a few like "hollywood" or bk's finest, which i guess are comparable, perhaps stronger... these guys get tar when ever possible because potency to dollar value is much better than local product[and they pay about 30% markup over what most regular users pay].

Personally, I have never tried NY stamps(supposed to have one of these buddies bring me a bundle this coming week finally, he told me its fire, but i wont be happy about what I get for the money).


Side question - does east coast powder H burn when you snort it like tar does?

 

[80ampd]

damn bro, ever thought of just breaking down the tar into a bangable solution and snorting that?!?! lol..

thats how a friend of mine here on the e.c. does his food(powder)... I just use a hypo myself8)

 

[blime84]

actually used to do that all the time, but the problem is hat part of the liquid goes down the throat and is metabolized in the stomach losing potency. I don't find that happening w/the coke mix. The only thing is when I blow my nose later it has brown speckles in it, but not any worse than if i snorted the "monkey water" as we call it...

FYI, the coke was going to be done anyhow, this just combined it both for me. My usual ROII is smoking. On occasion I will take a shot. This weekend I had 4 shots over 2 days , but that was the first time in 8 months about and truthfully, I dont find a shot any better than smoking, just faster. IE. I take a quarter gram in a shot, smoking that takes like 30 min. I will say getting nods is quicker w a shot.... snorting it allows you to do it a bit faster too, though not sure how fast it hits.

 

[80ampd]

actually used to do that all the time, but the problem is hat part of the liquid goes down the throat and is metabolized in the stomach losing potency. I don't find that happening w/the coke mix. The only thing is when I blow my nose later it has brown speckles in it, but not any worse than if i snorted the "monkey water" as we call it...FYI, the coke was going to be done anyhow, this just combined it both for me.

ahhh... No disrespect, you sound like your still a bit new to experimenting w/H???FOA(IMHO),it sounds like you have your "monkeywater"(love that phrase btw)proportioned a bit off. Maybe try using a bit less water next time, or, and bear w/me on this, try mixing your solution like normal, then add the slightest pinch of baking soda, mix well w/out using heat(or as little heat as possible)and that should help the solution to attach more evenly to your nasal walls(though it may increase the burn just a bit). I do understand that 'this' time the coke was being done anyway, but, you and I both know that thats not usually going to be the case.lol

My usual ROII is smoking. On occasion I will take a shot. This weekend I had 4 shots over 2 days , but that was the first time in 8 months about and truthfully, I dont find a shot any better than smoking, just faster. IE. I take a quarter gram in a shot, smoking that takes like 30 min. I will say getting nods is quicker w a shot.... snorting it allows you to do it a bit faster too, though not sure how fast it hits.

I do agree that smoking is a very under-rated ROA with H, and is actually the next best way to get a nod, next to bangin'. people new to the needle think that the duration of high, when banging, would be short and sweet. But the duration of the high of "chasing"(smoking)is sooooooo much shorter than banging, and(not that I recommend the needle by any means8)), smoking is never going to be as overall euphoric as a shot, EVER.... And that's exactly why it is best to "just say no!" to the needle!(it's too late for me on that end however lol)

 

[80ampd]

Side question - does east coast powder H burn when you snort it like tar does?

no where near it... jus a slight slight slight sting to it! ofcourse, this depends mostly on how seasoned your pipes are!lol.
I been snorting all kinds of corrosive substances, daily since I was 15or16 and I'm 27 now, and I swear, I can barely even taste shit sometimes lol

 

[blime84]

I have been using H for about 10 years, opiates about 11.5 years. I am not new to H thats for sure. I can't use less water unless I cook less(BTW, the last time I cooked up tar to snort was like 2 years ago, when I was hiding in the bathroom from my chick who thought I had quit) H. I was cooking between .3-.4 per snort since I didnt have much time to do multiple snorts. W the amount of water I used, it was already pretty sludgy. Truthfully, cutting it w another powder works best. Favorite is Coke.... some alternatives which worked well - Tramadol 50mg capsules, Temazapam 30MG capsules

My preferred ROI is smoking the tar. i take the occasional shot(this weekend I took 5 shots over 2 days + smoking, first time I took a shot in 6-8 months). I just got a few bags of NY dope, I will snort the first, then cook up the rest.

As for monkey water, I know it will dissolve without heat, but that takes for ever. If I cook it, i can have it ready in 30 sec.

 

[blime84]

oh yeah btw, regarding comments on length of high.... your totally right, banging it does last a bit longer than smoking... well sort of. If your smoking all day, then stop, you are good for quite a bit, especially with tar. I think part of the reason is that tar has a good amount of 6-MAM in it which is pretty damn potent and has a longer half life, so in turn, you dont need to fix as often.

for reference, when I have a heavy smoking day, lets say start at 8am, stop at 8pm, smoke about 1.2 grams, I will still be ok at noon the next day. I will probably start minor kicking around 2pm, yawning/watery eyes around 3-4 pm.

Harder to give an accurate response for shooting as I do it once in a blue moon. I probably have taken 40 shots in 10 years. This past weekend, on Saturday night, I took my last shot at 9:45pm. I did not use the next day until 1:30 pm and I was still ok then. Keep in mind I have a daily habit of 1-2grams, usually about 1.2 a day.

the fact that Tar keeps you well longer is great in most circumstances except when your trying to quit with suboxone or Subutex which I have done a few times. In those situations, I have to wait 36 hours minimum in order for the medication to work. I have to dose 16mg the first few days to be well, though 12mg will be enough to be rather functional. 8mg makes me a little better, not puking and all. The weird thing is by the COWS scale, I should be able to dose around 22-24 hours after the la nost dose, but if I take a sub then, it does absolutely nothing, maybe even makes me feel slightly worse. Next time I am thinking, maybe take Kratom for a bit to make the 36 hours more bearable, I bought some extract a month ago, yet to use it...

Due to this problem, my normal method of detox is methadone. I can be ok with 90-100Mg the first day, but by night time I am slightly kicking. 160 MG is just perfect to where I am perfectly ok. I take the first dose about 16-18 hours after last dose of H when I do this. the 2nd day I take 120Mg, the 3rd 100, the 4th 80mg and then I stay at 80 for a bit before going down again. Never been to a clinic for any detox. Always done it at home by myself. My buddy sells my his subutex at a dollar above the cost of the prescription and since they are the generics its totally affordable and the methadone.... I have a guy who will give me 2 per point of tar I give him which works out great, since I get the tar half o at a time, which makes it about half the cost of street value(though I know I am still paying 2x what he pays at the pharmacy)
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the cool thing about subs is that you can get off them easier than domes. For methadone, when I get below 25mg, its pretty bad, very hard to quit, easy to relapse... though I read about immodium helping, may try that next time... a bit off topic, but what ever.


Another quick interesting note I discovered somewhat recently(last couple of years). If you are detoxing, doing a bit of meth helps big time. It dries out your eyes from watering and gives you energy. only problem is meth is fuckin dirty

 

[Nicholai]

Meth always kills my WD symptoms with an utter quickness. It doesn't work like that for everyone though. The only problem is, it's meth! lol