Making a new vial of acid from a broken one.

[FeltRoof]

Hi there all I'm a new member but have been reading through this site for years.

I recently received a large vial through the postal system, but it got crushed in the process.

It was wrapped in a cotton type fabric though fortunately, to protect it I presume. As well as bubble wrap of course. Damn those heavy handed postal people.

Anyway, I took the bits of broken glass, the cap and the piece of liquid soaked cotton material and placed it all into a small glass dish.

Then added isopropyl alcohol (99.99% purity) I did four washes altogether getting 27ml of iso.

I was told that the vial had approximately 100 hits in it, of about 150ug's each.
It was a large vial, that had 300-360 doses in it originally.

Now that I have reduced the volume of isopropyl down to 8.25ml it has turned into a milky solution.
This suggests to me that it is of course very concentrated.
In fact any less than 20ml and the solution starts to precipitate tiny, crystal clear shards.

With the pipette that I use to drop I will get about 110 drops from that volume.

That was what I was told it would be (99-110 drops on average)

I am wondering what is the typical volume of a vial with 100 doses?
Does isopropyl act different with LSD compared to other solvents, such as ethanol or pure water?
Has anyone else seen this happen before with a vial of liquid L?

I am just trying to make the best of a bad situation, I believe that I would have got all of the LSD from the vial. As it was very fresh (sent very quickly) and fresh Europe acid :D and there was no liquid elsewhere in the package, it would have only been a few ml or so, so the cotton material would have absorbed all the liquid when the vial was crushed.

What I'm presuming is that the sender accidentally sent me a much more concentrated vial or that it's something to do with the iso.

Thoughts?

Thanks.

 

[FeltRoof]

But really, even if it were really concentrated it would still not precipitate or go cloudy due to the minute amount of LSD in solution due to it's potency.

Hmm, I've been really racking my brain over this one.

 

[psood0nym]

Yeah, LSD wouldn't be the source of the cloudiness (probably dust from the packaging). You can't know for sure that you got all the LSD off the packaging material. If I were you, however, I would still assume I did get the hypothetical maximum 100 doses off the cotton, then add sterile water to that 8.25 mL until it measured 10 mL. This would allow me to use an insulin syringe to draw up 10 insulin units (100 insulin units per 1 cc syringe [1cc = 1mL], so 100 insulin units = 1mL) and assume I had at most one dose to swallow in juice or whatever (forget sublingual). I'd keep adding another 10 units each new opportunity until I finally tripped at whatever subjective strength I considered one "dose" and then write how many units it took to get me there on the bottle.

Don't bother with drops as there's no standard volume for a "drop," plus you'll have a much better idea of how much you recovered (assuming your dealer wasn't lying) using insulin syringes. If you still have the rest of the packaging you may want to try washes of it too (and ask for plastic next time).

EDIT: Also, don't expect that it was likely 150 ug per drop originally (article link)

 

[Survived Abortion]

Yeah. The other thing to consider is this:

150ug x 100 hits = 15mg of lysergic acid diethylamide.

15mg LSD divided by 8.25ml of solvent = 1.82mg per ml

From what you are saying, if your solution is precipitating at that concentration, then LSD must have a solubility of worse than 1.82mg/ml in isopropl alcohol, which is of course absurd.

The only explanations are either, as psood0nym suggested, there is dust or some other contaminant in your solution from the packaging, or else what you have is not LSD but something with far less potency and therefore more material dissolved.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I'd blame the person for not packaging it better. You can definitely send glass vials through the mail without them breaking, it's not that hard.

 

[Selggurkim]

I'd blame the person for not packaging it better. You can definitely send glass vials through the mail without them breaking, it's not that hard.

There is also this crazy new material class out there....it's less fragile than glass....OH YA! Plastics! There are certainly less breakable and equally sterile substitutes for glass available that offer much more durability.

Sorry to hear about your situation FeltRoof but I certainly agree with psood0nym in that a more precise measurement will dramatically increase your accuracy and overall success on this rescue mission.

 

[FeltRoof]

What I'm feeling is that it is either a lot more concentrated than the sender realized (this is possible as the sender is very well connected but a little careless and in another world most of the time)

Or I just need advice from a chemist. Someone who understands the relationship between isopropanol and cotton, LSD, glass etc..

I don't think it could be cotton or debris in the solution as it has been filtered thoroughly, it could very well be another drug at much higher concentration.

One thing is for sure though, and that is that it has made for some very neon glowing fruit pastilles under UV light

 

[Transform]

I think your first step is to contact the seller.

Something is not right here. You are getting a precipitate at 20 mls, and LSD's solubility is much higher than 0.75mg/ml. this is a really low solubility so my theory is that you either have another drug (1.50g of 2C-E would likely be precipitating at that 75mg/ml mark and does have needle-like crystals) or, most likely, there is simply something unwanted which has become dissolved along the way.

If your seller cannot shine a light on the situation and refuses to reship, as they frankly should, then I think your next step is to invest in a test kit.

 

[FeltRoof]

Thank you for the help guys, it's funny how the obvious slips the mind without other peoples ideas.
I am a little concerned about trying the stuff, but I think I will give it a whirl soon, half a pastille, maybe even less, just to be safe.

If it's LSD I will know within 30-45 minutes, maybe less.
I've had blotters that hit in that time, with the first alert sensations.
Grade A needlepoint.

Plenty of acid out there, particularly in Europe.