bogdan_nad
Bluelighter
I can get some online,but have no idea what it is or does.
Does anybody know more?
Does anybody know more?
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Too many doses
Bluelight Crew
Why would you buy any then? May I suggest you google it, or wiki it?
Damien
Bluelight Crew
The only thing I found was a wiki article that has been deleted.
bogdan_nad
Bluelighter
same think
...probably not buying this product
...probably not buying this product
Damien
Bluelight Crew
Probably a good idea. 
Mitchy=)
Bluelighter
mate, on most sites, if you can buy stuff like that (that potentially could be used recreationally) they will send you a piece of paper with the pharmacokinetics.
email them IMO
email them IMO
Swerlz
Bluelight Crew
mate, on most sites, if you can buy stuff like that (that potentially could be used recreationally) they will send you a piece of paper with the pharmacokinetics.
email them IMO
You can do that, but they can also just toss in a paper with some lines going across a graph and claim that's the GC/MS for that specific substance.
Don't purchase anything you have no clue what it's about. Do your research and after you've done that, then you can make the proper decision to buy or not.
Mitchy=)
Bluelighter
True, depends who you buy from, most company's that sell anything good are a bit dodgy like that...
Email them though, you can judge for yourself.
Email them though, you can judge for yourself.
bogdan_nad
Bluelighter
i will let others to make this, I don't want to try an obscure substance
Hi I'm new here I just wanted to tell you that a webshop has released M2P1's IUPAC name:
1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-2-(methylamino)pentan-1-one
As you can see it is Butylone (bk-MBDB) with an added CH2. Hope you find this information useful!
1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-2-(methylamino)pentan-1-one
As you can see it is Butylone (bk-MBDB) with an added CH2. Hope you find this information useful!
Mitchy=)
Bluelighter
Thanks a lot dinken
Np The question now is whether the change from butan-1-one to pentan-1-one justifies the price (twice that of Butylone), considering the difference between Methylone - which has propane-1-one - and Butylone. I'm thinking of buying a sample and trying it out, now that I know that it's not just some random chem but "only" another analogue; I believe the correct name should be bk-MBDP? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylbenzodioxolylpentanamine
Sorry if I get the chemistry terminology wrong, I'm neither english or that good at chemistry
The question now is whether the change from butan-1-one to pentan-1-one justifies the price (twice that of Butylone), considering the difference between Methylone - which has propane-1-one - and Butylone. I'm thinking of buying a sample and trying it out, now that I know that it's not just some random chem but "only" another analogue; I believe the correct name should be bk-MBDP? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MethylbenzodioxolylpentanamineSorry if I get the chemistry terminology wrong, I'm neither english or that good at chemistry
Correct, bk-MDMP would also work, or bk-Methyl-K if you go by Shulgin's nomenclature. Also MDMV, if you compare it to MDPV.
I doubt is has much of an effect. Both MBDP and EBDP are found in PiHKAL (as Methyl-K and Ethyl-K) and neither seem to produce much more than subtle effects at up to 100 mg. The bk-group won't make it more potent, either.
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hamhurricane
Bluelighter
interesting i was just thinking about this today, as the chain in the alpha position is lengthened potency should increase, does will probs be less than 100mg
slipped
Eutylone = bk-EBDB ... Dunno which *ylone this would make bk-MBDP.hamhurricane: What, how did you get that idea? BDB and it's analogues are definitely less potent than MDA's! And the pentylamine ones are even less potent, if we believe what Shulgin has to say about the dosages.
hamhurricane
Bluelighter
but the SAR is reversed with beta-ketones (this recently had to be pointed out to me as well)
MDPV>MDPBP>MDPPP
bk-MBDB>bk-MDMA
thus it should follow that
bk-EBDB>bk-MBDB
requiring a dose below the 100mg average dose for bk-MBDB (thats assuming an average dose for bk-MDMA is 120mg)
i would start around 80mg and work up from there, well it certainly would not hurt to start much lower
MDPV>MDPBP>MDPPP
bk-MBDB>bk-MDMA
thus it should follow that
bk-EBDB>bk-MBDB
requiring a dose below the 100mg average dose for bk-MBDB (thats assuming an average dose for bk-MDMA is 120mg)
i would start around 80mg and work up from there, well it certainly would not hurt to start much lower
doctor puzzled
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i was wrong because i was going after the wrong picture that dinken posted... while he seems to have said the correct name, the picture he posted is not the compound in question...
i would call it pentylone
i would call it pentylone
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KyleOWeeD
Greenlighter
wow, bought it...
snorted 15mg ... light stimulated
1/4h later 15mg more and was upped like hell (really nice)
duration ca 4-6h
Sometimes you lack the true value of pioneering spirit!
anyway it is much stronger than any bk I testet... more kind a 4fma feeling... strong like mdpv...
snorted 15mg ... light stimulated
1/4h later 15mg more and was upped like hell (really nice)
duration ca 4-6h
Sometimes you lack the true value of pioneering spirit!
anyway it is much stronger than any bk I testet... more kind a 4fma feeling... strong like mdpv...
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