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M-Butylone - New Experience

i preferred NRG-2 over this stuff. no after effects with NRG-2 other than a raised heart beat. this was nasty the next day or two and felt like i'd really done some damage to my veins. Though this was probably due to the amount consumed.

I haven't tried MDAT or MDAI or NCAT or JGGs the first two i suspect to be similar to M-butylone. Whereas NRG-2 was a similar high it wasn't the same and after 4gs consumed of NRG-2 over the course of 24 hours i was actually quite nicely fucked with a small amount of nystagmus but again no euphoria.

ugh1979 said:
Do you get those side effects with mephedrone?
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The first time i had 4MMC was in May 2009 and i ended up with very painful heart/chest pains after ~250mgs over 4 or 5 hours. This went away after a week of taking L-arginine. (I smoke a lot and eat crap so I most likely have badly furred arteries)

With M-Butylone the minute i insuflated it started getting the a pain (albeit it lesser than with mcat) but even worse vasoconstriction than what i'd had from mcat. it was like i'd had a big night on mcat but only after 20 minutes. it wore off fairly quickly though (2-3 hours)

it's as if this is some sort of metabolite i.e 4-methylephedrine.

the fact that some people gurn when i didn't could be attributed to my mdma and mcat use over the past few months.

seejay33 said:
How much did u do altogether ?
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seejay the first time i did it i did staggered doses of 100-150mg every 1 -2 hours over the course of about 18 hours. resulting in ~1.4gram being taken.

the second time i did it i had ~400mg over the course of 6 hours which wasn't nearly as bad regarding side effects. Was just unable to sleep was the only side effect. however the secodn time i did it didn't hurt my heart like the first time i did it.

it's every bit as morish as meph when you are on it. when you are off it though it didn't seem to bother me.
 
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maybe the chronic after effects were due to the amount u consumed first time?

i do know what u mean though about gettin on it when already there i find it tough myself, dam it im lookin at m butylone and 6apb right now ive done the allergy test so wanna try it now


seejay
 
another thought too, i noticed when u wrote up in the other thread u mentioned youd done some mcat and mdma earlier that week, maybe your body may had not meabolised everythin an maybe it stacked a little?

just a thought?

seejay
 
seejay33 said:
maybe the chronic after effects were due to the amount u consumed first time?

i do know what u mean though about gettin on it when already there i find it tough myself, dam it im lookin at m butylone and 6apb right now ive done the allergy test so wanna try it now


seejay
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you've got 6-APB?! or you're looking to do it soon?

I can't wait to try it too. I've had MDA before and it can be quite trippy so if it's anything like that i'll be up for it.

may give everything a rest til after August though as I'm off to Dance Valley in Holland in August and need to get tolerance down and my health/wealth back up. :)

seejay33 said:
another thought too, i noticed when u wrote up in the other thread u mentioned youd done some mcat and mdma earlier that week, maybe your body may had not meabolised everythin an maybe it stacked a little?

just a thought?

seejay
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it is probably just that. I should have thought to use my wife as a guinea pig instead :)
 
surprised

well i was a fairly experienced user of all drugs except nasty h and cr/co ... and i feel im fairly well balanced in my personal reaction to them all, as in im an average person who has an average reaction to an average strengthed sample of a drug.
now m-bute , im surprised by a lot of posts reporting such atrocities ie viens exploding, arms dying, not sleeping for years, fish in the toilet bowl etc..
i recieved a gramme on thursday lunchtime..railed 2 lines in half an hour,was a good hit, went to work for the day.got home and railed half of what i had left between 5pm and 3 am friday morning.
fair to say it is very morish and doesnt exactly blend you into a deep sleep, however i did float with my eyes closed for a couple of hours before 7am when i got up for work again, railed a couple before work,felt ok-ish but work was done with minimum effort in comparison to other drugs..
got home from work at 1 pm and did in the rest by 5 pm.
went to the pub feeling fine, (watched england play 5 aside against algeria at the local park , hope they never meet in the world cup) and came home at 1030pm watched half a movie before falling asleep.
today,now being 9.40 in the morning i feel right as rain, not one complaint.
now im not bigging the stuff up ,it does have the potential to be dangerous to the weak minded but used carefully it gives a good sense of get up and go,is very clean when going up and down but you just have to be able to put it away when youve had that first kick.. i didnt and did away with a gramme in 24 hours but its a lesson learnt..unlike dmai its strong enough to keep you going after a couple of lines for a good few hours..
just be grown up about it.
cheers and take care
 
Hi all - newbie to the forums here and thanks for posting about M-Butylone - I have some on order and its good to get the advice notes.
Interesting reading, since the demise of MMCat I have been looking for something that hits the spot so to speak. My understanding was the butylone was in a branded dove and the experience on that, while far less headspanking than Meph was a decent experience.
My RC usage is club orientated so music appreciation is necessary. I have some m-butylone on order. I am new to this forum but not so new on others so I hope when I get chance to post it offers some help or insight..
Thanks to everyone for the warnings about the re-dose issues, with Meow this was clearly an issue, to the point where dysmorphia & extreme paranoia was experienced, you learn fast though so putting on the sensible head even in the height of the good times, is possible!
6-APDB sounds like the saviour - but I am cautious due to the lead time thats taken but chipping over to the relevant forum string to check that out.
Anyone mixed M-Butylone with anything, left over MMCAT for example? Wondering is a mix would be interesting - Ibiza calls
 
Well i received a gram yesterday and consumed it over the course of the day and night in 50mg lines.

It is very moreish but you really only get the urge to redose every hour - 2 hours.

its very similar to butylone but without the dysphoric edge that I used to get off it.

theres not really much in the way of euphoria with m-butylone but it definetly has a speedy edge to it.

i didnt suffer any vasco constriction whatsover, i did however get very sweaty palms and did have to change my t shirt due to sweat.

no paranoia or anxiety either, sleep was impossible will try and get some later today.

in summary this is a pretty good rc, shame about the price though as I would buy more.
 
Interesting to hear conflicting reports on this, personally I thought it was trash, will do full report tomorrow....

As for 6apb.... THE best drug I've ever had in 17 yrs of substances...

Yes its a big sweeping statement but imo it really is, again tomorrow ill do a full post as to why

Seejay
 
Be Careful

Hi guys,

I have been following these forums for a while,
I'm sure you all hear that a lot.

First of all, my guinea pig had serious issues with MCat, serious, serious issues, e.g. 10g over
a weekend. This stuff was slowly creeping up too, 2g in a night, that was after a rather horrible bit of news
and the guinea pig hit the self destruct button, if alcohol was involved in addition, this guinea pig wonders
if he would have ended up in A+E.

5g over 5 Days was another one, this had more of a bad effect the the 2g in a night.

This cause massive paranoia, always on the "They're Trying To Catch Me Out" train.
"Nobody will look after me but me" sort of thing.

Don't get me wrong, its enjoyable, its clear that this Guinea Pig doesn't know when to stop and is trying to find
that 4MMC feeling which just wont come.

Now struggles with getting up in the morning, feels groggy until 3pm.

Please be careful, enjoy it, definately, just don't do what my guinea pig did.

The guinea pig personally believe the MCat is the cause of the problem, this stuff is nice, just don't go overboard.
The guinea pig thinks, is it really worth it? Yes it is for the buzz, as long as you dont get caught in the trap of addiction.
Fortunately this Guinea Pig realises the problem and is happy he can admit to this, as when Guinea Pigs can't admit to this,
this is when the problem truly becomes un-controllable.

Guine Pig requires

1x 200mg Bombed followed shortly after 1/2 Hour, another 150mg to really appreciate the power of this substance.

Al
 
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As I said

As spoken earlier, very wise words

hornydrug said:
it does have the potential to be dangerous to the weak minded but used carefully it gives a good sense of get up and go,is very clean when going up and down but you just have to be able to put it away when youve had that first kick.. i didnt and did away with a gramme in 24 hours but its a lesson learnt..unlike dmai its strong enough to keep you going after a couple of lines for a good few hours..
just be grown up about it.
cheers and take care
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I think you'll find that my post was quite clearly a warning,

well im sorry if this "idiot" doesnt want anybody else to be in that situation
i wouldnt want to offend someone who has the intelligence of a mouldy banana afterall.

maybe you should think about what the message says before passing comment?
 
gubbs123 said:
It's idiots like you that get substances like this banned. Please, stay away from RC's until you've learnt a bit of self control. No doubt people will be doing 500mg of 6-APB and getting that banned within weeks too..
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wait a minute Gubbs123, i don't think there is any need to call this guy an idiot because he found something addictive and then warned people about it. That's harm reduction.

The reason why people are doing grams at a time is because it is piss poor at doing anything remotely interesting. He already explained his reasons as has everyone else and they are all pretty much the same reasons.

So please read the thread before you start attacking people, and i'd much rather someone would have some insightful information as to why this stuff is so addicting yet so shit as that would be a lot more helpful than just randomly attacking people and making sweeping generalisations.

This guy who took a gram of pointless RC has nothing to do with the cathinone ban. The reason this guy had to attempt to take so much in order to get any effect whatsoever is a direct result of the cathinone ban!

please stop overreacting. ;)
 
If that isnt caution enough how about this, imagining 5 blokes in ski masks in the flower bed screaming at them at begging someone to call the police at 4 in the morning in the middle of the street,

it turned out to be a bed daffodils...... you've gotta smile about it now, but please be warned
 
Guinea Pig has also found that mixing this substance with alcohol seems to render it absoloutley useless! Guinea Pig wasnt going overboard 4 pints whilst out!
Not a thing! Not a hint of a buzz.
But the comedown 100x worse than just on its own. Poor guinea pig spent the day on the sofa feeling terrible with horrible chest and stomach pains.

Surely there must be a way of finding out the active chemical.

Also this stuff seriously causes insomnia, in this guinea pigs experience anyway.

The guinea pig, on first discovering this chemical for the first time ended up waking up on wednesday morning and going to bed sunday afternoon. That was with work in between, and the guinea pig was travelling all over the country! He was surviving on energy drinks and this chest pain was familiar from this point of time.

I suspect that this guinea pig may have been overdoing it slightly in its 2 weeks holiday.

Any ideas what this stuff could be?
It seems to mimic cathonines somewhat, all the supplier tells me is that its made in their own lab?
 
I disagree seejay, in the nicest possible way of course, i find that a redose almost instantly brings back the "high" to its strongest point.

It just makes me wonder what sort of stuff is being sold on the net?

I know for a fact I have been done on MDAI and NRG1 before, either that or they just reallllly were shite.
 
Everyones opinion is subjective of course but I found it to be a bag of insomnia....

Incidentally I had more nrg2 last night, nowhere near as good as last time completely different effect

Seejay
ajg1988 said:
I disagree seejay, in the nicest possible way of course, i find that a redose almost instantly brings back the "high" to its strongest point.

It just makes me wonder what sort of stuff is being sold on the net?

I know for a fact I have been done on MDAI and NRG1 before, either that or they just reallllly were shite.
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There is one vendor which I now stay away from,

The NRG1 i purchased, I'm pretty certain was plaster powder
and the MDAI well that could have been anything yet neither of them had any effect whatsover.
 
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