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M-Butylone - New Experience

Madaboutmeph

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Update.. Caution advised with this one. Skip to later posts for why

I know this seems a bit suspect as someone has just done a very similar report, but this is legitimate and i've done a report before on here saying how rubbish NRG was when it first came out lol

I've orally adminstered around 150mg 40 mins ago.

I'm 5'11 and 11 stone 10lb

Tried pretty much everything going at some point, but in recent years have stuck to just the legals. Prefer eupohria with a bit of stim, anything that roughly resembles MDMA. Was quite a fan of Meph, obviously, but prefered methylone. Cant wait to try aMT.

Also I just want to make clear despite my low post count, I'm not a vendor, nor do I have any association with a vendor. You can trust me :)

OK

T+40 mins

Come up is very similar to methylone. This is very clean. I'm already convinced this is far superior to anything available now and I'd tried NRG, DMC, MDAT and MDAI

T+ 1 hour

Definate stimulant properties, mild vasoconstriction. Heart rate has increased to 126bpm. Definate euphoria, but so far not quite on par with Meth or Meph

T+1 hour 20 min

Effects already seem to be ebbing away.
Railed another 30-50mg, and the euphoria was back in an instant, but still not on par with meph or meth

I can already forsee problems relating to constantly redosing like with meph. People might get a problem with this stuff

T+2 hours 20 min

Effects are subsiding again, but im not going to redose so i'll sum it up then add the after effects later.

On the whole a nice experience. This is the best of the new ones about as it was the only one to give me tangeable euphoria. It is relatively mild when you compare it to meph, and there wasn't the overwhelming urge to talk bollox on msn etc lol but still it was quite encouraging.

I wont say how much i paid for a gram to not identify the vendor, but it was about twice the price you would have paid for a gram of meph if you only bought a gram.

If this had been last year it would have seemed a little bonkers to pay so much for the effects, but until anything else is available it isnt such an aweful deal.

It is very morish because you are constantly trying to get stronger effects, at least I was, but I think you have to accept what you get at the start is as good as it is going to get and not worth the added vasoconstriction trying to beat it.

It felt really clean from start to finish and would probably work quite nicely down the pub or chilling with mates, but maybe not so much at a club, although I would take it on a night out if there wasnt anything else going.

I dont think there will be a bad comedown, but we'll see.
 
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nice report, glad you didn't overdo it like i did. regretted it as I was trying to find a euphoria that never came.

what you do get from it is almost instant on insuflation but i don't think it's effects warrant it's price or the dangers of repeated use so will not be using it again. I'd much prefer a DARI and SRI as well this feels very much an NRI.

left me very achy for days and i had pupil dialation for almost 12 hours following last dose.
 
nice report, glad you didn't overdo it like i did. regretted it as I was trying to find a euphoria that never came.

what you do get from it is almost instant on insuflation but i don't think it's effects warrant it's price or the dangers of repeated use so will not be using it again. I'd much prefer a DARI and SRI as well this feels very much an NRI.

left me very achy for days and i had pupil dialation for almost 12 hours following last dose.

Ah, your experience mirrored what happened to me after I decided to finish the rest of it off last night. I have been at work all day today so couldn't update sooner

Repeated use is a definate no no. I woke up today with a couple of thread veins on my nose and cheek, and I would imagine they are probably permanent. i hope not.

My arm has ached all day and there is definate weakness which i hope is short lasting and the pins and needles sensation i got whilst trying to sleep last night was worrying to say the least, much worse then with NRG and not only that there was swelling towards the wrist this morning like a mild allergic reaction which has now gone down.

I couldnt sleep on it. I would even say it is as bad as nrg in that department.

Caution must be advised regarding multiple doses. I think im going to wait now for something else instead of ordering again
 
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Ah, your experience mirrored what happened to me after I decided to finish the rest of it off last night. I have been at work all day today so couldn't update sooner

Repeated use is a definate no no. I woke up today with a couple of thread veins on my nose and cheek, and I would imagine they are probably permanent. i hope not.

My arm has ached all day and there is definate weakness which i hope is short lasting and the pins and needles sensation i got whilst trying to sleep last night was worrying to say the least, much worse then with NRG and not only that there was swelling towards the wrist this morning like a mild allergic reaction which has now gone down.

I couldnt sleep on it. I would even say it is as bad as nrg in that department.

Caution must be advised regarding multiple doses. I think im going to wait now for something else instead of ordering again

Yeah, I'm the same with feeling weak and achy. I had some last night and redosed a few times, trying to get that euphoric peak I guess. (Bad idea, don't do this.) I felt pretty good and really energetic and empathetic for a while, then it went on to me feeling a bit too edgy, then after a while it developed into this weird strange/ paranoid mindset which alog with gurning has kept me up all night. It's so hard to sleep on, It's 1pm now and I'm still wide awake. However, I definitely redosed too much and it would of probably been okay in smaller doses. My arms and wrists feel very numb from typing this up.
 
Agreed. I insufflated 1g of it over the course of about 18 hours. Stupid, especially considering its unknown chemical makeup and lack of credible documentation, but this stuff is likely to be rather moreish for those lacking self-control. It does feel exceptionally similar to the cathinone family, methylone in particular. The "clean" comeup (versus the shot to the head of meph), the particular oddness of thoughts when you're trying to get to sleep (to no avail), the particular chemical taste in the mouth the day after, intense bruxism (still present to some extent two days after), and what I assume is vasoconstriction - this time giving me quite severe and painful cramp, pins-and-needles and shooting pains in my left leg for most of the day. Mephedrone was notorious for giving some people (including me) minor circulation problems, but this was really quite unpleasant. I'm intrigued by what the lab has done to make this UK-legal, if it is indeed a butylone derivative. Interesting, but take care. Actually, maybe just hold the f*** off until someone works out what exactly it is.
 
well i had a little more last night (about 300mg) threw the rest i had away to stop me doing the rest as i knew i would have kept at it. last dose was at 10pm felt normal by 2am but I didn't fall asleep until 6am this morning at which point my alarm woke me up for work at 6.30am!! 8o

Had to smoke several joints of squidgy black throughout the night before i felt tired and even then couldn't sleep, i also ended up quite paranoid and it fucked with my hearing quite a bit. What was actually birds singing at 5am this morning sounded more like cats meowing and every little noise had me trying to guess what it was, this was probably just made worse by the hash though.

If this had been meph or mdma i would be nodding off at work today , but strangely i was wide awake and actually ended up being so focused and concentrated today i got loads of work done, which i have never done before on a Monday!!

If i'd have had this stuff when i was doing my a-levels 14 years ago, i might have actually passed. =D
 
Kace, elzorro
You say you were gurning on this stuff.? seriously?! when i think of gurning i think of nystagmus and lovely euphoria , however this stuff doesnt seem to do any of that for me. I had no bruxia at all either, even after doing a 200mg line. all it seemed to do physically was increase heart rate and cause vaso constriction. Although after last night it was nowhere near as rough as i'd felt on friday.

Maybe it's because i have a high tolerance to stims at the moment but this stuff to me was comparable with NRG2 in terms of effect although definitely not the same as i could take NRG2 and fall asleep an hour later (and then wake up four hours later to the same high) this stuff felt more like high does of pro plusin terms of the actual length of time it kept me awake.

I know what you mean about the taste of the drip down the back of your throat though, i usually find myself swallowing it if it's mdma or coke or meph but with this stuff was so bitter i always ended up spitting it out.
 
It is very morish because you are constantly trying to get stronger effects, at least I was, but I think you have to accept what you get at the start is as good as it is going to get and not worth the added vasoconstriction trying to beat it.

It felt really clean from start to finish and would probably work quite nicely down the pub or chilling with mates, but maybe not so much at a club, although I would take it on a night out if there wasnt anything else going.


I'm trying this for the first time this morning - hesitant to post a trip report since mine seems a bit overlong, but you've hit the nail on the head here, I think. The urge to redose is pretty strong (though I've always had that with uppers) and to be fair my tolerance is probably still massive.. but it lacks a certain kick.

Not slating it too badly though; it's nice enough, just perhaps a bit expensive (where i bought it from it was slightly more expensive than a gram of methylone would have been, bought by the gram).

Edit: ZamZams, I got a little bit of gurning, too - just bruxism and jaw clenching, for the most part, but to the point it would have been noticable to the casual observer. And oh, god, yes, it tastes awful - I would much rather take the pain of a line of mephedrone than this taste. I ended up drinking milk mixed with sugar.
 
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Stay away!!

Hi, already typed a long reply there but wasn't logged in properly DOH! Anyway, no time to type it all again but basically would likie to warn fellow bluelighters about m-butylone. My guineapigs and I have tried this twice and the advantages are:

Fairly speedy (helpful for getting things done etc)
Makes you sociable and chatty
In higher doses (say 100mg) makes you appreciate music and want to dance like mad

Disadvantages (mmm where to start):

Gurning (we all chewed our mouths up and didn't realise we were doing it)
Can't sleep afterwards for at least 8 hrs
Very moreish
Rapid heartbeat
Tingling in fingers
Suddenly feeling VERY hot

Worst experience of any drug EVER and we have tried a fair few and always sensibly starting very small with proper scales. Last weekend couldn't sleep again, started reading book to take mind off racing heartbeat, feelings of anxiety and paranoia. Tried to keep calm and breathe normally suddenly my throat felt like I was being strangled! Started having panic attack (which I very rarely get) because I felt that soon I wouldn't be able to breathe, continued to sip water and tea, though swallowing was difficult. Luckily my fellow guineapig was with me who kept me reasonably calm and ensured I continued to breathe normally and drink water and tea (tea seemed to help soothe throat) Have to also mention at this point I was also having mild hallucinations (bugs crawling on carpet, fish swimming in my toilet bowl) These effects lasted about 2 hrs, managed to avoid A&E but only just!! My guinepig also had anxiety,raised heartbeat and couldn't sleep. All in all if you have to try this be VERY careful, the effects creep up on you and take too much and you could be a gonner!!
 
I dont know if anyone else found this either, but I didnt feel too clever for a few days after. Not super depressed, but something wasnt quite right.

I'm not going to do it again anytime soon. Just hope something else comes out so im not tempted as the weakness in the arm cant be good.
 
Yeah, it's so- so . I had an excellent night a couple days ago where I only had a small amount and mixed it with a few drinks and bowls. But then the achyness and weird mindset suck so badly. So in small amounts, yay but be careful with dosage I guess.
 
would be great to use in sub 50mg doses if you have ADHD!! Side effects were rather unpleasant tho. Too much and by the time it wears off the sweat will be pouring off you.
 
How much did u do altogether ?

Have some on the way very interesting the mixed responses pretty much like butylone reaction :.... if I knew more about it id be tempted to mix 50- 100mg with some new batch mdat nut maybe another day...

Dunno when I'm gonna get time to try my 6 apb sample too ...

Seejay
would be great to use in sub 50mg doses if you have ADHD!! Side effects were rather unpleasant tho. Too much and by the time it wears off the sweat will be pouring off you.
 
Hi, already typed a long reply there but wasn't logged in properly DOH! Anyway, no time to type it all again but basically would likie to warn fellow bluelighters about m-butylone. My guineapigs and I have tried this twice and the advantages are:

Fairly speedy (helpful for getting things done etc)
Makes you sociable and chatty
In higher doses (say 100mg) makes you appreciate music and want to dance like mad

Disadvantages (mmm where to start):

Gurning (we all chewed our mouths up and didn't realise we were doing it)
Can't sleep afterwards for at least 8 hrs
Very moreish
Rapid heartbeat
Tingling in fingers
Suddenly feeling VERY hot

Worst experience of any drug EVER and we have tried a fair few and always sensibly starting very small with proper scales. Last weekend couldn't sleep again, started reading book to take mind off racing heartbeat, feelings of anxiety and paranoia. Tried to keep calm and breathe normally suddenly my throat felt like I was being strangled! Started having panic attack (which I very rarely get) because I felt that soon I wouldn't be able to breathe, continued to sip water and tea, though swallowing was difficult. Luckily my fellow guineapig was with me who kept me reasonably calm and ensured I continued to breathe normally and drink water and tea (tea seemed to help soothe throat) Have to also mention at this point I was also having mild hallucinations (bugs crawling on carpet, fish swimming in my toilet bowl) These effects lasted about 2 hrs, managed to avoid A&E but only just!! My guinepig also had anxiety,raised heartbeat and couldn't sleep. All in all if you have to try this be VERY careful, the effects creep up on you and take too much and you could be a gonner!!

Sounds like this stuff effects people very differently.

Both times i've used it i've had none of those side effects and felt great the next day.

The not keeping me awake, making me too hot, moreishness, raised heartbeat etc is what I liked about this drug, (outwith the positive effects of course).

It was the same with butylone for me.

Do you get those side effects with mephedrone?
 
Downside to this drug sounds very similar to nrg2 from my experience... caution seems to be the word with this one though the rec dose is 100-140mg bombed...

Think ill start with 80 mg an go from there after allergy test of course...

I just hope I can be responsible enough and not be tempted to combo it with mdat, could possibly go well together but ....

Seejay
 
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