I have agreed to watchover a few friends while they each try LSD for the first time, having never done it myself and then neither, I'm not sure what to expect or what to have in place should anything go abit wrong. Any advice would be quality!
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valium, and the phrase, "it's not real" haha. but just watch out for things their saying that could be tripping them out, like if they start questioning their significance to the universe or things of that nature. if that starts try to talk them out of it, if not try to get them distracted however you see fit. if all else fails give em a valium and that should be the end of it. also keep tabs on their facial expressions cause its pretty possible they're thinking themselves into a hole.
SecondPull
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Kinda disagree with the above poster. Actually, disagree a lot.
Let the trip run its course...your job as sitter is to make sure no one places themselves in danger of immediate physical harm. If someone asks you for help, provide it as best you can by emphasizing that the tripper is physically safe, and that their thoughts, however unpleasant, have been stimulated by a drug, and things will return to normal when the trip is over. However, trying to make someone's trip conform to your own idea of a 'good time' is annoying at best, and may actually result in a more negative outcome.
Questioning one's own relationship to the universe is hardly the sort of thing that should be discouraged, IMO.
Let the trip run its course...your job as sitter is to make sure no one places themselves in danger of immediate physical harm. If someone asks you for help, provide it as best you can by emphasizing that the tripper is physically safe, and that their thoughts, however unpleasant, have been stimulated by a drug, and things will return to normal when the trip is over. However, trying to make someone's trip conform to your own idea of a 'good time' is annoying at best, and may actually result in a more negative outcome.
Questioning one's own relationship to the universe is hardly the sort of thing that should be discouraged, IMO.
Bring them some cigarettes.
seriously,
I am not a smoker but whenever i'm using LSD/shrooms i find that ciggies are the most euphoric thing ever. If one of your buddies starts to flip shit then present him with one of your tobacco goodies and he'll be a happy camper
weird advise, i know.
seriously,
I am not a smoker but whenever i'm using LSD/shrooms i find that ciggies are the most euphoric thing ever. If one of your buddies starts to flip shit then present him with one of your tobacco goodies and he'll be a happy camper
weird advise, i know.
lasthurrah19
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I had a bad trip the first time I took LSD. No trip sitter, just me and my friend stuck in his room both tripping out for the first time. Some tips off the top of my head:
Don't ask if they're okay. That can trigger panic reactions.
If they're afraid they're going crazy, remind them they have taken LSD and are in a safe place.
Remind them they took LSD to be intoxicated the way they currently are, and to enjoy it.
Another common one - thinking it'll never end. Remind them that it will end and that they are under the acute effects of a drug that has a duration like any other.
Agreed with OGK that having Valium (or another benzo) just in case is a good idea if possible, but shouldn't be used hastily.
Just make sure they don't do stupid shit, basically stuff like driving, playing with sharp things, calling people, going on the roof, etc. Anything bad that happens won't really matter too much, unless they have a severe psychotic reaction (very unlikely) or hurt themselves or someone else physically.
Pretty nice thing to watch your friends, hope you have fun too.
Don't ask if they're okay. That can trigger panic reactions.
If they're afraid they're going crazy, remind them they have taken LSD and are in a safe place.
Remind them they took LSD to be intoxicated the way they currently are, and to enjoy it.
Another common one - thinking it'll never end. Remind them that it will end and that they are under the acute effects of a drug that has a duration like any other.
Agreed with OGK that having Valium (or another benzo) just in case is a good idea if possible, but shouldn't be used hastily.
Just make sure they don't do stupid shit, basically stuff like driving, playing with sharp things, calling people, going on the roof, etc. Anything bad that happens won't really matter too much, unless they have a severe psychotic reaction (very unlikely) or hurt themselves or someone else physically.
Pretty nice thing to watch your friends, hope you have fun too.
i wasn't saying you should make them conform to anything. i was just trying to give him an example of a bad a trip, like warning signs. the last thing you want is someone to have a bad trip IMO. and how is "telling them everything will return to normal" is essentially what i meant by telling them its not real.
the only reason i gave the universe example is because the first time i did acid the thought crossed my mind that i was totally unimportant in the grand scheme of things, im pretty good at calming myself so it wasn't a big deal but it could have easily spun out of control.
the only reason i gave the universe example is because the first time i did acid the thought crossed my mind that i was totally unimportant in the grand scheme of things, im pretty good at calming myself so it wasn't a big deal but it could have easily spun out of control.
practice some breathing exercises or meditate. benzos should be a last resort. that being said i had to take them on 2 occasions early on in my psychedelic career. had i been tripping with more considerate people, this would not have been an issue.
generally speaking, let the trip run it's course. also don't smoke weed to ease somebody's tripping mind. it'll likely do the opposite.
generally speaking, let the trip run it's course. also don't smoke weed to ease somebody's tripping mind. it'll likely do the opposite.
Thanks for all the advice! Really is appreciated!
So i shall have some vallium ONLY for worst case situations, which I'm sure won't occur. Other than that just letit run its course, don't hassle them and sit back and watch them have fun. I'm aware of my responsibility not to be all tense myself waiting for something to go wrong, I'll be totally relaxed.
Also on a plus note another friend has said he'll come and assist after work, i feel this is good as he's tripped on lsd a number of times so will be in a better position than me to see if somethings up.
Although I'd like to ask the question, is it a good idea to introduce someone 'new' midway through. They all know him, or could this confuse them?
So i shall have some vallium ONLY for worst case situations, which I'm sure won't occur. Other than that just letit run its course, don't hassle them and sit back and watch them have fun. I'm aware of my responsibility not to be all tense myself waiting for something to go wrong, I'll be totally relaxed.
Also on a plus note another friend has said he'll come and assist after work, i feel this is good as he's tripped on lsd a number of times so will be in a better position than me to see if somethings up.
Although I'd like to ask the question, is it a good idea to introduce someone 'new' midway through. They all know him, or could this confuse them?
Termino
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It's good to read that you're taking your responsibility seriously. Sounds like you're a great friend.
You've received some solid advice and your synopsis sounds correct. I don't think the 'new' person will confuse them if they're know ahead of time that he may come and they're totally cool with him. However, sometimes I've felt uncomfortable when I'm tripping & too many other people aren't. The non-trippers sometimes talk amongst themselves as if I'm a spaced-out weirdo, which definitely isn't the case, or I may develop paranoia that they are plotting something, or whatever.
You (and any other non-trippers) should be as unobtrusive as possible without going overboard. Relax, have a couple of drinks (don't get drunk), and enjoy the evening. You don't have to hover over your tripping friends as if you're watching a baby... you can even be in another nearby room. You're just there in case something goes bad, or if someone starts to do something dangerous.
I'm curious to hear how things go for you... please post a followup after the event.
You've received some solid advice and your synopsis sounds correct. I don't think the 'new' person will confuse them if they're know ahead of time that he may come and they're totally cool with him. However, sometimes I've felt uncomfortable when I'm tripping & too many other people aren't. The non-trippers sometimes talk amongst themselves as if I'm a spaced-out weirdo, which definitely isn't the case, or I may develop paranoia that they are plotting something, or whatever.
You (and any other non-trippers) should be as unobtrusive as possible without going overboard. Relax, have a couple of drinks (don't get drunk), and enjoy the evening. You don't have to hover over your tripping friends as if you're watching a baby... you can even be in another nearby room. You're just there in case something goes bad, or if someone starts to do something dangerous.
I'm curious to hear how things go for you... please post a followup after the event.
mollycoddled
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Unless there unhappy treat them totally normal. If there unhappy theres not a lot you can do depending on how far gone they are...Its kinda up to them to dig themselves out but just be really nice and keep telling them its all good in the hood and itll be over soon
Last night went very well! My mates had a brilliant night, I had a very enjoyable time to. It went very well indeed, one friend did get a little panicked for a short period. Very short in fact. So a hassle free evening/night, thanks much for the advice people. Im now consideing dropping some acid at some point, the only thing isthat my imagination is rather dark and I would be worried about having abad trip. Ive been old that for thesereasons it might be best to give it a miss?
l0gz
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For me, it doesn't really matter how much dark shit is in my past, the outcome of my trip depends solely on how I feel at the moment in time when I drop the cid. If I've had a good day, it'll be a nice trip. If I've had a bad day, it'll be a difficult one. One of the best LSD trips I had was about a 1 1/2 weeks ago when I'd just finished watching some TV that I was really interested in (The UK X-factor final). I was in a great mood, then I took the acid, which just amplified that mood and made me well cheerful and tripping beautifully.
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The best way to calm people down is to reassure them that the drug they took will wear off in time, and that what they are going through is not permanent. Also if you're a good friend of that person, saying really positive things like "I'm really glad you're my friend, and I know you are going to be okay"
I know it sounds cheesy, but that kind of trusting reasurrance is really nice to hear when you ego has been ripped out of your asshole.
I know it sounds cheesy, but that kind of trusting reasurrance is really nice to hear when you ego has been ripped out of your asshole.
any major dude
Bluelight Crew
This video is pretty cheesy, but its got some good advice. And i'm sure you could have a laugh or two as well.