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LSD with weed / ecstasy

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My friend tried LSD for the first time last weekend, had one tab which he was informed were quite strong. He didn't really feel much from it, just a bit happy, a bit energetic, dilated pupils and SLIGHT visuals (edges of things moving very little). My other friend said that he felt a bit more from it, but still nothing major, just bit more visuals / colours etc. At about 6 hours in they guessed that they would have felt the come up and just assumed that they were pretty weak. So they smoked a heap of weed and then they both tripped REALLY hard and because their parents came home shortly after they had to be quiet and were afraid of parents finding out so they had bad trips (scared, negative loops, loss of control, heavy visuals & confusion).

Now my question is, what would be the normal effects of lsd without the weed and if they were to do it again, should they try a higher dose of lsd (in a better environment next time obviously) and stay well away from the weed? and what about taking with ecstasy, will this have a similar effect or lesser / different? One of them is considering taking a tab at a rave some time soon and then taking a few pills say 3 hours after the tab (very experienced with pills, not taken acid since described experience). Is he likely to encounter a similar experience to last time or is it completely different? It just seems so strange that they were totally fine, even wondering if that was all the fuss was about until they smoked up and then things got crazy.

Views / opinions / advice on next time & what to do at rave?
He says he normally likes the happy energetic dancing feel at raves and just though the tab would give an edge to the visuals.

Any help / experience would be great to help him do the right thing
 
Weed certainly calmed me down the last time. I was having like this super sensory overload, felt kind of freaky and weird but the herb saved my trip.
If you're going to smoke, just start with a small hit. If you smoke regularly then it shouldn't be a problem. Also if you smoke near the end of the trip, the lsd effects may come back a little.

Normal effects of lsd? Check erowid man :)
But basically you start to think different, everything is brighter, colors melt together, the breathing effect.

If you take XTC and LSD together that's called candyflipping if i'm not mistaken. Never done that.
 
Are you sure it was 6 hours in that they decided to smoke the weed, and not sooner?

In some people LSD can take 90+ minutes to kick in, and weed will for sure potentiate the experience. Though, I've never had an LSD experience where 6 hours after dosing, smoking a bit of weed made the LSD trip go from really weak to really strong. After 6 hours the LSD should be on its way to being cleared from the body.

MDMA will potentiate acid, so if it's your first time combining the two, I would suggest reducing the doses of both. It's better to do the LSD first because as a molecule it's very similar to serotonin, and MDMA is serotonergic, so it will give the MDMA a little kick. Not much point in doing the MDMA first because by the time the LSD kicks in the MDMA will be wearing off. When doing both, I normally take LSD 90 minutes before the MDMA so that by the time the MDMA kicks in the LSD is already full swing.

It's for a sure a dreamy combination but you still want to avoid dosing too high, otherwise you won't know your right hand from the left.
 
I have had this experience but with 2c-i instead of lsd. I took 15mg, a low dose and 5 hours later, found that I was disappointing by the underwhelming effects of the trip. No open eye visuals, mild closed eye visuals. The strongest effect was a slight ritalin-like stimulation. I decided to smoke some weed and, just a couple minutes after hitting the bong, I was tripping quite hard. My depth perception was completely shot and shapes were tremendously distorted. My arms and legs looked like they were 10 feet long. The cev's were intense. I don't really have any explanation for why this happened but it is not unheard of.
 
I guess thats what happened as they were smoking some pretty strong weed and as they had little effects they thought they would just get blazed instead. Little did they know it would tip them over the edge! It was definitely 6 hours as they kept notes of what times they did things.

It just seems strange they had such little effects before that. Mainly just mood lift and slight ripple of edges. No where near as noticable as the effects they normally get from ecstasy.

Are there any chances that pills and lsd will floor them like the green did? I have researched up on effects of candyflipping, was just wondering from anyones experience will it still be as alert as just ecstasy alone?

They were thinking maybe drop to half a tab (half of last time) and take 2-3 pills (experienced, can normally handle 6 pretty easily at an event) at an upcoming trance event. Taking lsd 2-3 hrs before pills?
Does this sound like a wise / safe idea and does it sound like it would achieve the desired effect, unlike last time?
 
Would you say that ecstasy would be the same then? Since is often considered a psych.

Weed obviously makes you calm and internalise, and e up, happy and alert. So would I be right in saying the effect would be greatly different and they would be less likely to have the same experience on e than weed? Also, be in a more positive mood?
 
Do you really believe MDMA makes you alert? Quite the opposite IMO.

Anyway, MDMA does take the experience further than LSD alone so for your friends I'd say they have a proper/happy LSD experience first. LSD brings a mood lift too if the experience is right and MDMA won't make you immune to feeling like shit if the experience wants you to
 
My friend says that MDMA does make him feel alert, energetic, awake, happy etc.

If they had more time / the opportunity to try LSD on it's own again (higher dose, no weed) then they would but they don't before the upcoming event. Due to this one of them was thinking that maybe at this trance rave he would just do half a tab and maybe 2-3 pills (pretty standard for him) 3 hrs after taking half tab and see how he goes (to stay safe in a different environment, but to see how it effects pills). Then next time he has the opportunity in a safe uninterrupted environment (house to themselves) try the 2 tabs alone and understand it's effects better?
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone. They have decided to just stick to what they know jumping on the pills for the event and will look into understanding LSD better on it's own first before giving them a shot together. They will learn from their first experience trying to rush things haha
 
Always get a feel for the drug on its own first, weed and ecstasy (MDMA) both potentiate an LSD trip a lot and it is hardest to find the proper dose / balance at the beginning. So first learn to deal with LSD by itself on various dosages and the combinations will come later. For one thing: if you aren't satisfied with LSD by itself if you've just been acquainted you are probably doing something wrong ;), take another look at your dosage, and set & setting. It should take a while before it would even become 'unstrictly necessary' to add weed to it. At least let it take until you get a bearing handling a full +3 dose.
Candyflips are IMO considered pretty heavy on your whole system. Grand experience for something special but massively exhausting, or at least if you take it to the limit or responsible use.

Also, we have these central threads:
 
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