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nikkielle

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I use to be a habitual smoker and I loved being high. I would think about the world and how people interacted. how we grew and matured. it was awesome. now I get very anxious. I overlook things way too much. however, when I am trippin on LSD I never ever get anxious. LSD is a powerful mind altering drug. why do I get paranoid of weed but I don't have bad trips on LSD?


Nikki
 
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They affect the brain in different ways.

LSD in a low dose might not be as powerful as a high dose of weed.
 
The effects of weed and other psychedelics seems to vary over time for each user. And you're not alone in the exp of LSD being less anxiogenic than herb, a handful of people here have reported similarly.

You should try practicing meditation, with a little practice you can easily quell anxieties and/or the overlooking things problem you mentioned. If you're interested in an in-depth explanation you can message me on here, lol I'm about to be corresponding to another blue lighter about the same. Multiple birds with one linguistic stoning, if you'd like :)
Actually, any person interested in learning should PM me, I've practiced daily for 7 years (zazen, dao harmony work and shamanism) . Would love to help anybody to the best of my abilities :-)

Oh and learning to meditate opens the door to sober consciousness exploration, which from my exp can be comparably intense and easily as much or more enlightening. Not to mention understanding these practices can greatly increase your abilities of making full use of the psychedelic experience. :) it changed my life at least... :)

Best of progressions,
Love light and blessings,
-tUt
 
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As stated above, you should try meditating. After a large dose of LSD in my backyard, I spent the entire time sitting on a piece of wood with my legs crossed just staring at nature and meditating. After that trip, meditating has become a big part of my life. I try to find it in every moment. You need to find eternity in every moment. When time ceases to exist, that is when I feel we have found that zone, that area of meditation that allows us to relax and sooth our restless minds. Doing this has allowed me to dramatically reduce my overall anxiety in life, and also when I smoke.

Also, I don't usually smoke with people anymore. Weed is an anti-social drug. Yes, it's social in you may be passing around a blunt or a joint, maybe even a bong, but the effects are not social at all. When I smoke, I like to meditate and let it be just me and my thoughts.
 
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Oh and you are beautiful :-) lol assuming that's you in the pic
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For real! :)

A reason for anxiety with pot when I could smoke was that it was something that I did all the time, that took time and smelled and LSD is like the opposite of that. Little bits of paper that have no odor and get put under the tongue then get swallowed. LSD can cause paranoia IME with overuse but pot lends itself to worrying and another thing is that it causes overanalysis for me, esp. in social situations and while LSD can do that, I didn't use LSD all day, everyday for 10 months.
 
Marijuana is extremely anxiety prone for a lot of people, especially with repeated use. I found that I have to mix up the settings and keep my weed intake low to get the best result.
 
I seem to always be able to change my mindset permanently while I am tripping. I will go meditate when I drop again because I know I'll do it all the time after that trip. lol. thank you btw, yes that is me I just can't upload a pro pic from an iPod.

I tend to always feel as if what I say is rude or that they took it the wrong way when I am high. I do not like talking while I'm high. I hate being touched as well. it's weird. I use to be such a goofy and annoying high lol. I hope I can eventually enjoy it again. I just tried smokin the other day but I was drunk and ended up throwing up.

I find that when I am tripping I want to learn so many things. when I trip I ask questions and I love expanding my knowledge.
 
Bicycling while smoking or walking is generally smoothe and less anxious for me. I feel like I need to process and apply the 'extra vibrations' that weed adds to my consciousness or the experience is kinda overwhelming and sometimes anxiety inducing. Its not so limited to physical exertions though, group discussion of interesting subject matter is a good time for me to smoke. And also, while doing any writing or music playing or while meditating. I feel the intense vibrations that a heavy stoning gives me is able to 'flow through me' if I give it either an exertive outlet like art, philosiphizing, or talking to 'flow unto' lol. The 'clarity' of the vibrational fields which the meditation induces seems to let the weeds fury simply float through me, producing intense experiences, but calm and non anxious ones :-)
 
I have tried finding a forum I could go to all day without being judged or told what I'm doing is wrong. I appreciate you answering to the best of your ability :). I love to write in general. I tend to write about life. I've always been big on understanding how people feel and act. I like intellectual conversations. there are not too many people who will sit down with me and talk to me about deep things. I tend to scare them away. It seems as if they don't know how to reply to such a subject. btw, I cannot pm until 180 mins have passed which is kind of stupid. would you like to talk on Skype? IM is faster for me.
 
nikkielle said:
I have tried finding a forum I could go to all day without being judged or told what I'm doing is wrong. I appreciate you answering to the best of your ability :). I love to write in general. I tend to write about life. I've always been big on understanding how people feel and act. I like intellectual conversations. there are not too many people who will sit down with me and talk to me about deep things. I tend to scare them away. It seems as if they don't know how to reply to such a subject. btw, I cannot pm until 180 mins have passed which is kind of stupid. would you like to talk on Skype? IM is faster for me.
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In general this forum is very good for that; whatever the issue you'll always find some helpful and understanding advice! And above all lots of good discussion :P
 
Its all in your mind. You've begun to fear some portion of the marijuana's effect in a psychosomatic way IMO. Its happened to many people, including me. Its possible to get over, you just have to remember that you truly love cannabinoids and their effects. Noids are simply psychedelic in similar albeit smaller manner than actual psychedelics most times. Mentally they can be fairly strong in that proportion though. I suggest you begin slowly and smoke very small amounts(the higher the quality of cannabis, the nicer the high i've found, usually less muddled than lower quality). Just get to a comfortable level where your not to stoned and force yourself to see that literally nothing is wrong. The only reason your becoming anxious is your minds association with it and marijuana. Once you begin to break that cycle getting high simply becomes normal again. You just have to accept that there is nothing to fear. I suppose not everyone is like this but if you truly love cannabis then give it a shot. I love LSD beyond measure but cannanoids/marijuana are just more convenient and possible for regular abstract thought/etc so their my DOC, even when they began to make me anxious I knew I could never leave them behind. Lastly LSD I don't believe has ever caused me any real anxiety ever on its own. I never had to work with it but if I began to become anxious during the trip/whatever I would probably continue to work with it because LSD is the most beautiful encompassing experience i've found, to bad its just not as piratical as cannabinoids.
 
This place is cool for sure.

Weed causes massive paranoia in me and lots of other people I know.

Takes a special "training" to tune it out.

I've been burning daily for 15-20 years, most recently highest grade medical.

After a while you know you're just trippin' from the weed and to relax.

LSD I have not had for many years but I remember it being one of the best things known to man before I learned of a lot of the newer and crazier substances obtainable now days. Used to eat it on pez, sugar cubes, blotters and cartoon drawings and all kinds of stuff.


You think you get paranoid off weed?
Try full melt hash off a glass on glass bong with a hash skillet and a torch and dabber.
You really start to get a feel of what cannabis has the power to do then..

Really powerful hash brownies will do it too.
It's like eating acid but with massive paranoia and you have to go to sleep.
If you take enough cannabis fast enough that is.

For daily hash users, the effects will hardly be noticeable and they can tune out paranoia no problem.

All hash is is concentrated pot.
If you use it right on a hot plate or with a bell or skillet, it's really really heavy.
It really does have medical use in that it will put you on your butt and make you pass out and get dizzy like some sort of pill.

The fact that I have a medical reason to legally obtain cannabis makes the paranoia factor pretty much nill also. I can obtain it and use it daily and it's not illegal. Nothing to worry about. Same with hash.

I think perhaps some (not all) of the paranoia associated with thc can by slightly psychological. You can tune it out but it will definitely present itself every once in a while anyways.. so it does exist to some extent.

In all honesty, being a tiny bit paranoid never hurt anyone.
It's in how far you take it.

Can you calm yourself down when you get paranoid? I think that's a good question each of us needs to know the answer to. How far can/will you take your paranoia?

Paranoia can trigger massive feelings and events in your body it seems like.

People who don't get paranoid may not have a sense of self security if you ask me?!
 
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I am going to be smoking today. I'll let you know how that goes. I feel pretty good about not getting paranoid but who knows. btw does anybody know what intelligent dance music is?
 
To help with having a paranoid mind, it is good to try and not smoke too much. For a girl with (I assume) little smoking experience, even 1 good hit of decent pot is probably enough... Just because the bowl is full and people are passing it around doesn't mean you have to keep hitting it over and over!

I have a lot of the same problems, I am an overactive thinker when I'm sober so sometimes pot just sends me into overdrive. It's a pro-con relationship though, I usually get the best ideas for my science job under the influence.
 
PsychedelicPeptide said:
To help with having a paranoid mind, it is good to try and not smoke too much. For a girl with (I assume) little smoking experience, even 1 good hit of decent pot is probably enough... Just because the bowl is full and people are passing it around doesn't mean you have to keep hitting it over and over!

I have a lot of the same problems, I am an overactive thinker when I'm sober so sometimes pot just sends me into overdrive. It's a pro-con relationship though, I usually get the best ideas for my science job under the influence.
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Well, she did state that she was a habitual smoker in the past.
 
Another note, I feel confined spaces like buildings and cars are more overwhelming to be stoned in (or trippin for that matter). Seems like when I'm outside the energy excesses flow off into the horizon, as opposed to being in a room it feels like it builds up and forms a thick 'weight'. Sometimes that 'thick stoning' is desirable, but from my experience that weight is more conducive to the chance of overwhelming sensations and/or anxiousness.

There's something to be said of the good vibes nature has when stoned or trippin....the plastic acetone, hard-angled segmented boxes we call home are more often overwhelming than a forest w/o worries. As long as you're comfortable outside and not worried about potentiall infringment by political bias/fascism (as in, god I hope some guy with a gun and badge who claims to be in charge of enforcing policies made by some people I've never met doesn't pop out and start asking me questions.) Lol, in a safe and 'in your element' out door situation, I feel the general sense of 'brotherhood among the species' will ground one and provide the necessary emotional backdrop to keep the evolution and good vibes flowin :D
 
depends on the dose and how good the acid is man, this is the objective explanation.
 
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