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LSD to cure depression?

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I know this is a long shot. But has anyone ever taken lsd to get out of depression or paranoia? I know how powerful psychedelics are and they have helped build the person I am in dramatic ways.
I know it is generally considered that being in a negative mind set when you trip causes a bad trip, but surely such powerful tools have the potential to do the opposite and pull you out of a negative way of thinking?
 
You control your mind not the other way around. I would suggest dimethlytryptamine just because it's shorter so in the rare case you do have a bad trip it will only last several minutes instead of hours. Just my opinion tho.
 
I have yet to try LSD, but psychedelics in general act as antidepressant for me. It doesn't really matter, whether trip is good or bad(though I must admit, I never had a "real" bad trip, only difficult ones), but I feel less depressed after tripping, and my thought process is more positive. However, I had only mild depression, which even wasn't properly diagnosed.

It never really worked against anxiety in the same magic way, but fortunately I started to realize causes of my anxiety.

Also, why are you wondering? Do you want to heal yourself, or someone else? I would strongly advise against giving LSD to a depressed person, because for many people the effects are quite the opposite of what I described.
 
I often take psychedelics when I'm depressed and find it the best cure.
 
I have been getting extreme paranoia and anxiety lately. I can't get my hands on any dmt. LSD is available however. Psychedelics in the past have helped me develop as a person. But I have never taken them in such a negative thought space.
I've had bad trips before and really don't think I could handle one at the moment. But as psychedelics have played such a major roll in my life up until this recent feeling of dread (which has made me stop all together) it seems weird that I am thinking they woiuld worsen my situation, when they have been such a good friend to me in the past.
 
1) Take the risk and trip, but don't forget about having benzos to abort a bad trip
2) Go to a doctor and get proper treatment. Note, that many anxiolytics can blunt your trip completely, so don't take psychedelics while being on anti-anxiety medication.

I would choose the second option, especially I would be unsure about taking psychedelics.
Why don't just visit a doctor?
 
I've never taken medication before. I have never needed to. I think I need to give it a while and see if I can cure it on my own or with the help of psychedelics, rather than just running away from it with anti-anxiety medication.
I'm thinking a strong trip might be the ultimate way to get rid of the paranoia. But I am also thinking it could go completely the other way.
 
I agree with allium.

The psychedelic experience is fickle - it can go either way. It could make things better, or it could potentially make things significantly worse, particularly in an uncontrolled, self-therapy type setting.

I recommend seeing a doctor. They won't force you to take medication if you don't want to, and there are therapy techniques that they may be able to try with you. If you're just in a little slump emotionally, that's one thing, but if you're suffering from significant anxiety and paranoia, you should probably seek the help of a professional.
 
I really wish I could fight this by myself. I wonder if anyone has experience with the use of psychedelics in curing or helping rid of deep anxiety. The problem is, I know it's practically written that psychedelics potentiate the mood at the time they are taken.
And about self therapy. I have read about places that you can go to where you will be put through a deep therapeutic, perfectly set psychedelic experience. I don't know if these places still exist.
 
Psychedelics aren't magic bullet, they are a tool, and it seems that you realize this. It is possible that they will work against anxiety, but still there is a good chance they make things worse.

So, it would be much better if you stick to the tools which are proven to work.
Where is the line between "Fighting anxiety by yourself" and "Fighting anxiety not only by yourself"? Why using one class of psychoactive drugs to fight anxiety falls in the first case, and using another class falls in the second case?

If I were you, I would definitely visit a doctor. I had problems with anxiety in the past, and although I didn't see doctor, I self-prescribed myself some anxiolytics(the most significant one was phenibut), which provided a great relief.
 
Taking LSD is a good idea, you just need to time it right. I don't know about you, but most people are somedays 'happy'. Take it on this day in a really good mood and hopefully you get the result you are after.
 
^ The chances of getting overly anxious / having panic attack will still remain high.
You know, a human mind can so easily slide into unplesant thoughts...
 
I've never found going to the doctors to be the slightest use when depressed. I wouldn't dream of taking SSRIs. Talking therapies depend on the person - I personally don't get that much out of paying money to tell a stranger my problems.

On a trip you can have a cathartic cry, have wonderful euphoria and a lovely time in nature. I personally never have bad trips. You have the rest of the week to feel bad - why not feel good for a few hours while you trip?
 
For sure. Meditation works wonders. Sometimes lately I have also just been able to tell myself that ' this is you being paranoid, it's a delusion, where's your fucking evidence?'
Unfortunately negativity is a powerful force. Then again so is positivity.
 
Ismene said:
I've never found going to the doctors to be the slightest use when depressed. I wouldn't dream of taking SSRIs. Talking therapies depend on the person - I personally don't get that much out of paying money to tell a stranger my problems.

On a trip you can have a cathartic cry, have wonderful euphoria and a lovely time in nature. I personally never have bad trips. You have the rest of the week to feel bad - why not feel good for a few hours while you trip?
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Right, but he stated clearly that it's not simply a minor depression. Paranoid thoughts and deep anxiety warrant talking with a professional, whether it's a social worker or a psychiatrist.

Psychedelics for someone struggling with paranoia could easily spell disaster.
 
'Where is the line between "Fighting anxiety by yourself" and "Fighting anxiety not only by yourself"? Why using one class of psychoactive drugs to fight anxiety falls in the first case, and using another class falls in the second case?'
It may be naive but I perceive certain drugs as more natural than others. For instance I view the psychedelic experience as natural, however anti-depressants and the like seem un-earthly.
 
^The decision of whether or not to try an anti-depressant is entirely up to you. Deciding to go to a mental health professional does NOT mean that you will be forced to take an SSRI. You may be encouraged to begin a medication trial to see if it helps alleviate some of your symptoms, but you will not be forced to do so. Also, if you agree to go along with your psychiatrist's medication recommendation - to give it a trial - it doesn't mean you have to be on it forever. You can taper off (notice I didn't say stop) at any time. Finally, psychotherapy with or without drug treatment could be very beneficial for you. It could help you see how your thoughts are biased (resulting in anxiety and paranoia), and it could also help you make changes in how you perceive the world, to give you a more accurate (non-paranoid) reflection of reality. There is no advantage to "fighting anxiety by yourself" if it gets to the point where it is substantially impacting your life, and you have thus far been unable to do anything to improve it. Just try seeing a social worker or psychiatrist. If you don't like who you get, you can always find another.
 
Dondante said:
Right, but he stated clearly that it's not simply a minor depression. Paranoid thoughts and deep anxiety warrant talking with a professional, whether it's a social worker or a psychiatrist.

Psychedelics for someone struggling with paranoia could easily spell disaster.
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True, and he says he couldn't handle a bad trip when he had one. Obviously if you can't handle your high then it's best not to take the drug.
 
I did mention earlier that I am managing to battle it to some extent, when I was not able to do this when it began. It's less like my view of reality is warped. More that there is a war between rational and irrational thinking going on in my head. It seems to sway from one extreme to the other.
This is why I was considering embarking on the psychedelic experience, as it would seem that intensifying this war between rationality and irrationality and rationality prevailing in the trip could win it entirely. Though this is a giant risk to take. And I'm not sure I have the balls or the will-power.
I'm definitely going to speak to a doctor and see what can be done.
 
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