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[LSD Subthread] First time LSD

First off your attempts to sway people from your age are off putting IMO, if you don't care why should we care(about what we say not your age). Second if you've never tripped and you "know" your ready for a bad trip, you best rethink things. Third, go ahead and do it personally 14 is to far to young(one in a million 14 year olds would be mentally advanced enough to truly appreciate all LSD has to offer IMO and the fruit only ripens with time but once again your body your choice) but its your and your going to live it not me, so you do whatever you want and usually enjoy(walk outside, listen to music, sit in the dark, watch a quaint movie, whatever you want). Set and setting are the best way to stay away from bad trips but theres never a guarantee on anything when it comes to psychedelic chemicals. Lastly welcome and enjoy your stay.:)
 
sorry, i kind of sounded like a kiss-ass...I can honestly say that I am a LOT more mature than people my age around me, but as you said, who cares. I jsut need the questions answered
 
What are you going to do if you stick around for another year and your name is no longer fitting 8(
 
yesIM14 said:
All I ask is.
>>>>>How do I avoid said bad trips
>>>>>What should I do whilst tripping?Listen to music, lay down, watch TV?
>>Thanks in advance
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Set and setting are what will best help you avoid bad trips. Don't take it if theres something worrying in your life and don't do it if there are things that can get in the way where you're doing it. I first tripped at my house while my parents were gone for the night and it was a blast. I walked around with my friends and then just chilled and talked. Typically I like to have a few options depending on how I'm feeling but I can pretty much guarantee you'll want to stretch your limbs some.
 
Smoking marijuana at your age (can) causes brain damage.

Aside from that if you decide to trip please meet the criteria to lessen the chance of psychological damage physical damage.
Throw out everything you thought you know and knew about acid. there is no way to expect or rationalize what the effects are like. They are not what you think.
Find a sober sitter. one of your friends who is caring and makes you feel safe. this person also needs to be able to hold their shit even if you seriously start to break down.
Don't smoke weed before or durring your first time
drink plenty of water before hand
eat a lot before hand
keep happy music handy
don't take it in a repressive environment
DON'T try and force yourself into a state of mind
You need a day after wards to come down possibly two to get off the mental. (possibly a life time if you fuck up)

If you have any relatives with any social or mental disorder throw the idea out now.
If you have soem fucked up family history that you try and repress don't think about it
if you're not past the age of 20 it's not the best idea.
and until that aprehension you had that made you ask us for information goes away don't thin about it.
 
I'm not putting you down for your age here, but it's a simple reality, there are very, very few 14-year-olds who I think would be ready for, or benefit from acid. I strongly recommend you wait at least a couple of years.

That said, it's good that you're at least looking to a harm reduction site before you drop tabs, that's smart, but the smarter thing is to just not do it. If you can find someone willing to sell you acid, chances are it won't actually be acid, or it will be badly cut, and then you're potentially in deep shit.

As others say, marijuana can cause brain damage at your age, so you're also better off putting that off for a while, especially with your music career in mind. Using drugs to enhance creativity is cool, but it has to be done wisely. I know this is annoying, and sorry if this is lecturing, but please think very carefully about whether this is what you really want, right now, or if it can honestly wait. If you're using LSD to find your place in the world, or understand yourself, or figure out a way past depression, it can help with all that, or it could seriously confuse you and make things much worse. Adolescence is naturally turbulent and in almost all cases, it's better to wait until you have some grounding and stability.

All that said, well done for seeing past society's anti-drug propaganda. And it's great that you and your friends don't have a dicksizing approach to taking substances, but rather a genuine drive to learn something from it.

Now, about these trips. First,

yesIM14 said:
Please dont put me off for asking about taking LSD, I feel ready for it, im ready for a bad trip(if im unlucky)
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NO ONE is ready for a bad trip. I've had two. The last one traumatised me for at least a week. And I'm lucky. I know people who've ended up in mental wards from bad trips for months. Some don't recover at all. A bad trip may sound like some scary experience that you can just get over but really, it's more like being trapped in a coffin underground for twelve hours. Your own brain can turn relentlessly against you and it can be mentally scarring. I say this so you don't go in thinking, "I'll just take five tabs, worst that can happen is a bad trip, so what?"

>>>>>How do I avoid said bad trips
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Others have said it, but set and setting. Start low, like you're planning, so you can get a firm grip on how the substance works. Do it with friends you trust, in a safe environment, in a good mood, with no concerns plaguing your mind. Do lots of research on bad trips and how to avoid them.

>>>>>What should I do whilst tripping?Listen to music, lay down, watch TV?
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I'd recommend all those things, except TV. Wherever you are, make sure no one's going to potentially interrupt you, especially parents, because that can be a huge source of anxiety / trip disaster material when you're high. Consider doing it out in nature, on a bushwalk or something, if you can.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
I know you don't wanna hear it, but the best idea is to hold off for a while, like years. Only smoking weed 20 times is not going to prepare you for an acid trip. An acid trip is not really about the visuals, and probably won't be too visual, but is quite a mind-journey, and headfuck. It isn't a mild experience, even if you take a small dose. However, for the sake of harm reduction, if you instead choose to go through with this.

Bad trips are easy to avoid if you are in a safe and reliable setting, and a clear headspace. Make sure you have a safe place and 12 hours at least before having to interact with anyone important. Just remember that if a trip starts to go bad, you are the one having those thoughts and you can choose to change those thoughts however you wish. It is just material you have to deal with, and have a good time doing it if it pops up. Don't let anything drag you down, focusing on unimportant things isn't worth it.

While tripping try to do things like watch lighthearted movies, tv, listen to music, play music, turn off the lights, watch cool visualizers, go on a walk, talk with friends. Anything that seems like fun really, just keep it safe.

I hope that you try it EVENTUALLY, just remember you have a long life, and doing it early isn't always the best choice.
 
Flickering said:
I'm not putting you down for your age here, but it's a simple reality, there are very, very few 14-year-olds who I think would be ready for, or benefit from acid. I strongly recommend you wait at least a couple of years.

That said, it's good that you're at least looking to a harm reduction site before you drop tabs, that's smart, but the smarter thing is to just not do it. If you can find someone willing to sell you acid, chances are it won't actually be acid, or it will be badly cut, and then you're potentially in deep shit.

As others say, marijuana can cause brain damage at your age, so you're also better off putting that off for a while, especially with your music career in mind. Using drugs to enhance creativity is cool, but it has to be done wisely. I know this is annoying
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At 14 you can find another source of excitement. Go have sex with underage girls while you still can. Or ride your bike through the mud. Take up fire breathing. Practice guitar. Every second you've been high you could have been researching and practicing different styles of guitar. Music is a hard business and unless you're planning on whoring yourself to a corporate pimp you'll need to stand out from the "best." Not of your time but of all time.
 
I have been looking forward to this for so long and this is not what I was expecting at all.


you'd do best to forgo expectations and learn to go with the flow.

LSD is not a one trick pony or a cure-all for whatever you think you need.

The first and most important lesson any psychedelic teaches you is to let-go.


Clear your mind of all preconceptions about LSD and the psychedelic journey, and what it should be like.


So try a bigger dose and you might be a bit more satisfied with the experience. However, you can't go into a experience with a new drug with pre expectations of what it will be like, as you really can't know till you've actually have experienced it. Also, having pre-expectations can have a psychological effect, decreasing the pleasure or enjoyment out of the trip. If you keep thinking about what your missing you are going to be preventing the trip from doing its magic. You are just going along for the ride, let your brain and LSD do the work.

and wasn't exactly what I expected.

really, you should never have expectations for psychedelic drugs...


these are all taken from one source. just quickly scrolling through another post.

take this as you will


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbCxnXdRfVE
 
If you were on the honor ROLL then you'd spell better, no?
I tried to get acid when i was like 14, youll just get sold paper by older kids
and you having never been a pill popper or anything isn't anything that helps with the whole "i'm a big boy i want strong psychedelic drugs" thing at least in my mind, less drug experience isn't a good thing when it comes to acid.
i wanted to drop acid when i first started smokin pot at 13 occasionally, wasn't till i was 16 that i finally ended up getting actual tabs, and hell that was an intense trip, and not exactly easy to handle and i had done shrooms once before that and thought no problem it'll all be fine.
you cant handle it, or at least i dont think you know till you try it.....i didn't even understand what L is like all that much even after i did it the first time and i had already done a psychedelic before i tried L..
and protip: saying "i'm very mature for my age" generally makes people think you're actually rather immature or at least I think so
protip 2 (this one's from experience): if you're a small , and you try to buy L from older kids, i guarantee you'll get beat and sold paper at least once...or at least if younger kids are like all of the kids i knew/got into shit with we were all fucking stupid as hell but didn't know it and i'm sure we got ripped off plenty, i got ripped off buying L a few times when i was young(er)..
question for other posters: are you all saying that he should drop and all this at just 14? i just flat out say he shouldnt..i'm rather young at 18, and not especially mature for my age, and i was 16 and a half when i did it the first time and it was real intense, real introspective all that and i know at 14 i couldnt handle that shit for sure...and i had done a decent bit more than just bud before that and that still didn't compare
OP i used to do dumb shit when i was 14, everyone i know/ever met was, dont think that you're the exception to the rule and just wait a few years...
 
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Jesus I am so so glad I didn't do psychedelics at 14. The changes in your mind and perspective on life/the world that occurs in your teens are enough of a trip without stirring powerful psychedelics into the mix. I think I was at least 15 or 16 before I seriously questioned my parents beliefs on politics and religion and I was the first of my friends to really do that.

I think I was 21 first time I tripped and I was still probably too young. Sometimes I wonder if I'm ready now haha
 
i was 17 when i first ate mescaline, and about 8 or 9 months later i ate LSD. sometimes i think that too late in the game and othertimes i think i was not old enough

im not gonna give advice on whether you should trip though, that's your decision, not mine ! i want no responsibility in this !!!!
 
hiphophippy said:
and until that aprehension you had that made you ask us for information goes away don't thin about it.
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I dunno if this is fair. I think if someone's bright enough to ask advice from people who've done it before, they're better off than someone who hasn't done that. It doesn't sound like apprehension to me. I agree with everything else you said though.
 
If there is one thing I regret about my drug use it's that I started to early.
Started smoking weed when I was 15 and psychedelics when I was 16.

But if you don't listen to the others in the thread I guess you won't listen to me when it comes to the age thing.
So if we totally ignore the age thing.

When people have to make new threads when there already is lots and lots of information out there, then I would say that your not mature enough.
Because if you can't spend some time reading up on the effects and how to handle them, then your probably not ready experience them.
This applies mostly to strong psychedelics like LSD for example.
 
yesIM14 said:
sorry, i kind of sounded like a kiss-ass...I can honestly say that I am a LOT more mature than people my age around me, but as you said, who cares. I jsut need the questions answered
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Don't take this the wrong way, but any 14 year old who's smart will think that. I was a very intelligent straight-A student at 14, and I'm sure I *was* more mature than a lot of people my age, but that in no way would have made me ready for the psychedelic experience. I think the truly mature 14 year old would realise that it's not just about mental maturity, but about physical maturity of the fully-grown brain. You can get 9 year old kids more mature than their age but does that mean they should be having sex? No their bodies have not reached proper maturity so they should not.

What I really want you to realise here is this isn't me telling you "if you eat LSD now you're going to get brain damage" or any of that propaganda bullshit a lot of people would have you believe, that's simply not true. But anyone on here will attest to the fact that your first experience with any psychedelic, and especially your first ever psychedelic experience as a whole - will be one you remember your whole life, unique, and magical.. But if you wait until you're 18, or even until you're 16, hell even just one more year until you're 15, the experience will be so much more magical than it would be today.

Would you have sex with just anyone, just to "lose it"? Or would you rather have that first experience be special - even if that person you sleep with isn't the person you're with in a year's time? Psychedelic experience is much the same, that first time is what you make of it, and will stay with you for your life. I think if you're really mature, you'll wait at the very least a year or two, ideally until you're 18.

I hope you realise just how important it is to make these first experiences perfect, as no experience after will ever hold a place in your memory as firmly as the first time.

That said, had 14 year old me read my post, I probably would have got it into my ego that somehow my first experience would be equally magical, ignored the advice, and taken it anyway. So not to insult your maturity, I don't know you - only 14 year old me, but I have a feeling you'll do it regardless. If that is the case, do it AWAY from parents or any authority figures who you could get in trouble with as that will cause trip anxiety. Make sure you have plenty of food and water, to keep fed and hydrated throughout. Definitely have access to music, though I personally don't enjoy movies while tripping that much - as you're letting the TV control your trip rather than your mind. Stay in a safe environment, don't go out "exploring the woods in the middle of the night" or something just because it seems fun at the time, as that's how people get hurt (or scared) tripping. Overall just let what happens happen, and everything will be good.
 
I would recommend waiting until you are 16-18 to have a psychedelic drug trip.

LSD is a great psychedelic, from what I know you can get the most *practical* experience from it, more than any other psychedelic.
I would say strongly that you need to know what dosage you are going to take. If it is your first trip I don't recommend using more than 100 micrograms. Of course what ever strength you think the tabs are is just going to be quite a rough estimate. I would imagine 60 to 80 micrograms for a first trip would be good. Give you a taste of what LSD is like, so you can explore with higher dosages later. Remember though if you double the dosage or even increase by 1.5 times there will be quite a noticeable difference.
 
LSD Advice

Hi fellow psychonauts, first time poster on the psychedelic forum.

I plan on trying acid for the first time in a couple of weeks. My previous psychedelic experience is limited to a handfull of psilocybin and dxm experiences (up until recently I was a frequent cannabis smoker.)

As with any powerfull substance I try for the first time, I intend to take half a blotter to gauge my reaction. People have this obsession, which frustrates me greatly, of pushing people into trying "whole doses" for their first time, and some even believe the drug simply won't work without ingesting a full "pill" or "hit."

So my question is; if I choose to take half to gauge my reaction, and find I am willing to take the other half, what sort of time frame should that be done in to still gain maximum effect (as if I had taken the whole dose at once?) I know that's a broad question but hopefully some people know what I mean and can give some learned advice.

Cheers <3

p.s. A reason I do the half rule is based on, in my mind, harm reduction - due to the black market of course it is not easy to determine dosage, something I believe is of critical importance in experimenting with any drug. It's extremely important to me. (One of the reasons I feel much more comfortable with the idea of mushrooms for example.)
 
Subjectively speaking, I plateau by the 3rd or 4th hour, so I would recommend it to drop it before that time period if you wish to maximize intensity. The fact that you only want to drop half a tab is respectable in this world of unregulated drugs. Just a FYI, Low dose LSD trips are fun and very recreational, but feels quite different than say a moderate-strong dosage. Both have their own times and both can be very rewarding. Good luck and have fun.
 
If he wants to do LSD let him do it. But make sure you have all the information and details and are in the right mindset. Create a warm and familiar atmosphere and keep yourself calm, dont try to analyse what is going on and what you are seeing. Just go with it.

The first time i took cid was in a forest, in a tent, in the pouring rain beside a mental hospital and morgue. as Shock said, it depends also on how much your going to take. I took a half tab first time and really enjoyed myself although a good friend of mine let the anxiety kick in. Although on our second time we took a full blotter and it was a much more fun and memorable experience! Be safe and have fun.
 
I'm not a superstitious person by nature (I live a street away from a cemetary and have used it as an escape maze in the middle of the night for various reasons, but that's a different story...)

I think i'll probably try half at first. I'll be camping as well. Thanks for the advice guys, it should be fun. I'm looking forward to it. :)
 
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