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[LSD Subthread] First time LSD

Originally Posted by NationOfThizzlam

Originally Posted by Dreamatone

Artex ceilings and fluffy rugs are a winner =)

What's an Artex ceiling? I've never heard of that.

Unfortunately my psych experience is pretty limited :|
Ive had MDA (by accident), salvia, weed and nitrous. Nothing amazing. LSD will be my first as far as I'm concerned because the ones I've tried are pretty mild.:\
Ive also rolled, but despite the classification, I don't feel that MDMA is really a psychedelic. Definitely belongs in the stim category.

LSD is quite different from those definitely. A more involved experience for sure (6-12 hours usually), those drugs are usually quite temporary. I plan a day for lsd.
 
LSD is quite different from those definitely. A more involved experience for sure (6-12 hours usually), those drugs are usually quite temporary. I plan a day for lsd.

That's what Ive heard. The thing that kinda puts me off about it is the length of the high.. 12 hours is a long time to be lifted..


Btw I think artex ceiling is popcorn ceiling...but idfk. Haha.
 
That's what Ive heard. The thing that kinda puts me off about it is the length of the high.. 12 hours is a long time to be lifted..


Btw I think artex ceiling is popcorn ceiling...but idfk. Haha.

But it's quite the 12 hours, wake up have a good breakfast and have a great trip %)
 
Hahaha nah theres still some more mile stones, like being able to use attachments :)
Congrats welcome to bl status
To keep it relevant:
Do you feel that MDMA should be considered a psych? That's assuming you've rolled of course.
 
Hahaha nah theres still some more mile stones, like being able to use attachments :)
Congrats welcome to bl status
To keep it relevant:
Do you feel that MDMA should be considered a psych? That's assuming you've rolled of course.

I would say so, it's structurally similar to phenethylamine which gives rise the all of the 2C-x substances. I've had visuals on doses of MDMA before.

However, it's nowhere near what a normal psychedelic can do. Pretty intense discussion here of the subject though http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=368699
it seems it's quite a debate ;)
 
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Being a phenethylamine doesn't make something psychedelic. Phenethylamine itself isn't psychedelic; neither is amphetamine, nor mephedrone, etc.
 
I have 4 hits of blotter LSD that should be in my possession soon. I've got what I would consider to be very reliable information that the blotter is 150 micrograms per hit (I'm generally very much a skeptic when it comes to things of this nature and wouldn't mention the dosage if I didn't feel certain about it).
I have taken a few psychedelics before, with my primary experience in the realm being with 2C-E (at least 20 trips with dosages ranging from 5mg to ~40mg). I've also dabbled with 4-AcO-DMT (up to 35mg and 10mg rectally in combo with 2C-E), 2C-I (15mg and 10mg in combination with 10mg 2C-E), 5-MeO-DMT (10mg smoked), salvia (10x), LSA, and many other drugs I wouldn't call psychedelic. I once had one small blotter hit of what was sold as LSD which had practically no effect on me. I wouldn't consider it an LSD or even a psychedelic experience per se, although I did experience things that didn't seem psychosomatic.

When I decide on a proper time, I plan to take 2 hits for my first time which should be 300 mics or less if there has been potency loss. I've done a lot of reading on LSD and I feel mostly prepared in mental terms. I just have a few questions, and since the substance I've had the most experience with is 2C-E, I'd love responses from someone who has had both, comparing the two on a few subjects. I understand that everyone's experiences differ, but any insight someone has would be appreciated.

-1. Emotional/mental components
I've had some very difficult and trying experiences on 2C-E (and a combo of it with psilacetin which I posted about in TR). I've read in places that 2C-E is not considered nearly as easygoing or "recreational" as LSD. Whether or not this is the case, I certainly plan on treating LSD with as much respect as 2C-E. 2C-E never gave me objective euphoria, only happiness subjective to what I was experiencing. It was often split evenly between moments of great joy and moments of sadness or anxiety when I had emotions, but 2C-E was often very neutral in terms of emotion. My experiences with psilacetin were more emotional, but not necessarily more positive. I'm a little less clear on how it affected my emotions because I only experienced it about 5 times including the 2C-E combo (which was distinctly overwhelming in a mostly-negative way but highly emotional). When I've taken LSA, I noticed the mood was almost always positive. I can remember one high dose experience when I was smiling so hard and for so long that my face felt cramped, I must have spent about two hours laying in bed grinning ear to ear =D.
I'm also interested in the strictly mental changes, but I have a feeling these are much more subjective and difficult to describe for everyone. One particular aspect is that of time dilation, which on 2C-E was often very extreme. Should I expect similar effects from LSD?

-2. Duration
With higher doses of 2C-E (18mg+), the experience would often last a very long time. I've read many people's reports saying that their experiences lasted approximately 12 hours on 2C-E. With 20-25mg, I had experiences where I didn't feel clear-headed or sober until past the 18 hour mark (the visuals and pupil dilation often lasted this long as well). Redosing even just 1.5 hours after my initial dose lengthened it to almost 24 hours in one instance. That experience left me with tears of exhaustion and frustration, when I just wanted to be able to sleep. I have a strange metabolism and have experienced lengthened durations compared to others on many different substances. But I don't think metabolism has as much to do with the duration of substances like 2C-E and LSD, and the two compounds are generally very different, so I'm not sure what to expect from LSD in terms of length. I know I shouldn't expect to be capable of sleep or sober activities for 12 hours, but I'd like to know if there's a chance I could be feeling significant effects, say, 15 hours after my dose.

3. Set/setting/activities
This topic has been covered at length elsewhere here, but I have what might be considered slightly different circumstances from some. I've always tripped alone, with online companionship being my only real source of social interaction on psychedelics (I have a few very close tripping buddies online who I talk to, with video chat mostly). My experiences with 2C-E have helped me to acquire the mental control to distract myself usually when having negative thoughts. I'm very comfortable with the idea of tripping alone, even for my first trip. I live with my dad and don't currently drive - this means I will not have the opportunity to go elsewhere during my trip outside of my house, yard, and neighborhood within walking distance. This has only occasionally been a source of anxiety while on 2C-E (general restlessness). I would, however, like to know if I am likely to get particularly restless on LSD.
As far as activities, I think I should be set with the things I have around me. I have lots of musical instruments, music, toys, my laptop, things to write or draw with, etc. I don't want to plan things out too much - I've found that having such expectations is often misguided in this context. I am, however, curious about food/beverage preparations and what to expect from my stomach. Unlike most, 2C-E has only twice given me any appreciable stomach upset. However, eating was usually an arduous task and I often disliked the taste of foods I normally would enjoy. Should I expect to stick to fruit and easy things as I have in the past?

Wow 8o I didn't mean to write a book! I apologize if that was a lot to read. Like I said, I feel mostly prepared but I'd just like to feel 100% before I choose a date for my experience.
Thanks!
 
LSD and 2c-e are both very different.

If you found 2c-e making you restless, don't worry with LSD only your mindset causes that.

On LSD just go with the flow and you'll feel relaxed, unlike other "true phenethylamines" they cause jitteriness or sometimes extreme body lethary(DOC for instance).

However LSD provibes a very natural feeling energy that feels great, it's almost like you aren't really energetic but you just feel lighter. So since you feel lighter you walk around with ease, but you can also sit still for hours. LSD is great, you'll love it just give it a chance it's very different from 2c-e as a psychedelic.

LSD and mushrooms are both amazing, 2c-e just isn't as researched, well-known to cause good experiences, and it wasn't responsible for changing perspectives in the 60's all the way till now.
 
I have a couple of generic LSD question. =)

Being 110 lbs, would 1 hit be the best dose? I'm considering less, seeing as no one is 100% sure how strong the blotter is.

Also, I've only ever done Shrooms once and MDMA 4 times(Besides little things like ketamine, marijuana, alcohol, and nitrous oxide.) Is it wise to do LSD with such little experience?

Also, does anyone have any tips for calming down if I become frightened/paranoid? I'm a little worried since I'm a little prone to panic and fear, uncertainty and anxiety.
 
Personally, I wouldn't dose more if you're underwhelmed and want more. If you dose more after 1.5 hours, in my experience, it'll only prolong the trip instead of strengthen it. If after 1.5 hours you're not as hoopy as you'd like to be, I recommend smoking a bowl. That usually picks the trip up a bit. If you find yourself wanting more, wait a week (for tolerance to go down) and try a larger dose.

I wouldn't worry about paranoia too much as long as you're in a comfortable setting. The only way I'll get paranoid is if I have to act normal (sober) around someone... or if I've lied to someone... that's about all I can think of. I've even had a k9 unit cop follow me around and not gotten paranoid. If for some reason you start having a bad trip, just remember that it'll all be over within 2 or 3 hours (the bad part, at least).

The only time I've had a somewhat bad trip -- it's kinda hard to categorize "bad" -- is when I forgot everything about my life, even my name. I thought my roommates were watching me thinking I went crazy (they weren't even home), I couldn't remember anybody's name, including my family... I couldn't even figure out how to use the bathroom, let alone unzip my pants. I got a bit panicky -- I shouldn't have. But that was after taking 6 tabs; you should be fine with a small/normal dose.
 
Thanks guys. =) I finally got a hold of some and have decided, based on what everyone said, to just take the full hit. I think I'll be fine.

Also, I'm going to be doing it in the house I grew up in, and will be at night. Would it be dangerous, seeing as it's my first time, to take a walk around a neighborhood I know very well by myself? I have the feeling no one will want to come with me, and I'm really thinking I'll want to walk outside instead of being cooped up inside a house all night. Plus I might want to get away from everyone. Is it easy to get lost or just generally get in trouble?
 
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first acid trip

next monday im dropping acid for the first time, and im wondering what to expect. im dropping two tabs, and ill be with people i know and trust. im pretty sure ill have a good time, but any insight or advice would be welcomed.

also i may have to work the next day, and iv heard ill feel like shit. will concerta help me get through the next day, or could it somehow exacerbate the hangover?
 
Hey man
You're def gunna have a great time
If you have work the next day, do your acid EARLY on the day u want to do it
so itll fade out and you can go to sleep at a reasonable hour

Expect a great time, but expect all your expectations to be blown

Enjoy yourself
and breathe :D
 
yeah if you do it early and get to sleep at a reasonable hour you should feel alright the next day,

probably stay away from the concerta if you can... you wont get a mdma type hangover... after i did acid the first time i felt some flashback-type dysphoria when drinking/smoking over the next 48 hours so it might be best to avoid drugs if you're worried about hangover effects.
 
hey people :) anyone know if piracetam potentiates the LSD experience, and if so, to what degree?

cheers :) :D
 
I don't know if piracetam does, but aniracetam did for me. A lot. So I'd assume piracetam does as well. I'd reccommend not taking it with LSD. I can't really explain this except that LSD is already "speedy" and aniracetam made me think wayyy too fast than if I didn't take it.
 
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