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LSD screwed me up, seeking some advice!

Vishy

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About two years ago I took the acid and now I'm a wreck. It was only my second time but that day I was with none of my close friends and one of my friends who really begged to come with me I took, but since the other guys didn't really seem to like him he went to hang out with another person who lived close by. I guess this situation made me feel real upset cus I brought him with me.
So later in the night we dropped, I took one tab of some potent LSD known as shiva. As I mentioned it was just my second time, and as I started tripping everything seemed fine except for the floor that started slanting downwards which was pretty cool, and the odd trippy feeling. After a while of coming to realization that I was trippin I tried to stay calm and hoped a smooth trip. I really failed there. It was horrible, I felt as if i was just a guy looking at me tripping but not going with the flow of the trip like how it was when i did it earlier.
So I was trippin but all my thoughts were just wildly bad, I thought that my friends were really horrible people and that everything that was going on around me was pointless. It's the worst feeling I've gotten almost close to when I got caught with a bunch of pot to some cops. But this was way worse.

Finally I left the party and drove back home wich was the most shitty 3 hour drive back. I was totally fucked and this was after my trip was over, I felt really self concious and scared as shit. Slept for 2 days but woke up with the same crappy feeling. Then after a few days some of my other friends came over with some MDMA and I decided to try this too. But again these trips didn't mean anything to mean for what I was feeling with the bad trip. Months went by where I continued to smoke pot cus i jus love the herb, but the highs were more depressing than anything. I was really messed up and couldn't even do my work right in college and on top of that I got caught smokin pot in my room and then was suspended and came back home. It was the worst times of my life along with having to go through some lsd break down.
Anyways now it's been almost 2 years and I only stopped smoking herb 6 months ago. But I still feel really messed up. Before The trip I was the most outgoing, outsocializing other persons person ever, my friends wouldn't wanna go party without me. And not even that I was just such a kind hearted fellow and I felt for everyone, loved life and more than anything loved myself a lot. You could imagine my confidence was through the roof, and girls were up on my ass. And this trip has drained all that out of me, i can't socialize anymore cus I feel scared of what others think, I think too much and this disrupts my studies a lot, I feel really stupid talking to people cus i seem to ask stupid questions. And everyone seems really wicked to me like sort of evil. Before this I felt love for every soul even hitler if he was alive. I tried playing a game of cards which was newly introduced, everyone understood the concept of it except for me, I was totally lost like I didn't understand anything. It was real embarrassing. I used to understand anything before this it was all so natural to me. Like a god given gift I had.
It's been like this for 2 years. But remember I only stopped smokin pot 6 months back thinking things would go back to normal, not much has changed. What is this that is happened to me? Has anyone experienced it? Will I be this way forever cus I think about ending it a lot of the time, I mean its pointless living like a stupid turtle hiding away for the slightest thing? I've read so much about bad trips that going online itself is a bad trip for me now, I never had any issues such as bipolar or psyhosis or anything. Except I was super cool. If that's a problem. So why should I feel messed up like this? I just want my old self back and now that I've learnt so much what not to do having myself back would be amazing to me and I wouldn't even smoke anything, but I don't know. Some forums people have written saying that they had this for 10 or more years and such, but I only did acid twice. I hate to believe these people cus losing 10 years of your wonder years is like just not worth living life. I totally regret everything beginning from even smoking pot, and this is how I live now everyday thinking about this problem. It just surfaces cus everything seems odd to me and not like how my perception was on things before the trip. Most days I feel sad. The good thing is I have hope to get out of this. I haven't talked to a friend properly or felt that emotional bond with a person during all this time which is the saddest part. Just been lonely most of the time, and my girlfriend has had to put up with this mess too for long. But she's so good and tries to comfort me, and I love her a lot, but I don't even have my full potential to give her which sucks and I get real I secure and all those bad feelings too. I really wish I didn't do that acid. Now having a conversation with me is like talking to a parrot. It's pointless and boring and dull. Earlier my conversations could go on for hours and days with such intelligence and I made lots of tight bonds with people. Now I'm a sitting duck, with a quack and a lousy one too. Please explain to me what's wrong if anyone can. Isn't acid supposed to broaden your mind and stuff? Please help me out with this I really need to know something that will unscrew me.
 
this is your mind now and you have to own it. thinking about and blaming your trip isn't going to change anything. you can't get your "old self" back, but you are still yourself. you can work on learning from this and growing as a person and with time and experience this social paranoia should go away. i get the same paranoia smoking weed. it's a torrent of negative insights about myself that it seems others are sharing. really, it's only you.

you find that talking doesn't help, so try to go inward and focus on yourself instead of who and what you are to others, and that includes your girlfriend.

maybe the meaning isn't found in what you say to others. perhaps your words fall flat to you because they are not what you are looking for. this can be a time of self-reflection for you, and that can be lonely but essential.
 
This has gone on too long. I know you may feel embarrassed going to a doctor but this is affecting your quality of life. I know a guy who was diagnosed with drug induced psychosis and cannot work because of it, he doesn't leave his home. You gotta get some help.
 
do you perhaps think you are over-idealizing how your life was before this trip? like you can't be THAT different, its just a matter of perspective. And perhaps thats alot but you are the same person at heart. And if you have a love relationship of any kind in your life does that not give you hope or comfort in living? and what can be so different about reality? divulge further what you feel changed so drastically after this trip. I as well as im sure everyone on this site has had psychedelic experiences that have completely fucked up my view of reality, but the answers always seemed to be related to personal strength or inability to accept/face certain things about my life and my ease and willingness to retreat to escapism... I probably sound condescending but I hope one day you will wake up out of this as 2 years is a long time. Truly best of wishes
 
Firstly I just want to say that you have my sympathy. I've been in a very similar place to you, and lost a lot of my life because of it. For that I am greatly sorry for you, and hope that you can figure this thing out.

To think that LSD screwed you up is to think in a polarized way. Rarely are we changed by just one thing. There are so many variables all the time that are influencing our thoughts, feelings, and behaviour.

If I believe that something is true, then I'm going to make that feel as real for myself as possible, just by the very fact that I believe it. It's the same with this. Your interpretation of events IS what you perceive to be true. If you critically re-examine your interpretations, then you'll likely realise that there's more going on than meets the eye.

If you think to yourself in a bad trip, 'oh my god, this is horrible, I'll never be the same ever again.' And if after the trip you think, 'I still feel weird, something is terribly wrong. Maybe I'm fucked forever. Maybe I'm stuck in this weird place forever,' then you're likely going to horrify yourself, and pretty much torture yourself into feeling utterly hopeless and miserable. I've been there. I had a bad trip where I started to believe I was dead inside. That feeling of feeling dead stuck with me for years. BUT IT ONLY DID BECAUSE I KEPT ON TELLING MYSELF THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG AND THAT I WAS DEAD INSIDE. As soon as I started challenging those ideas and thinking, 'hey, maybe I'm just making myself feel this way', then I started to gradually feel better.

Of course, before the trip I had a lot of irrational bullshit ideas in my head that led me to having those thoughts (in the trip). So again, it's rarely just the drug. It's everything about you (your current beliefs, genetic influences, your personality) and it's also the environment too (how others influence you, social norms, society as a whole etc).

I highly recommend seeking out a book by Albert Ellis (Creator of Rational Emotive Behaviour Therapy -- not too dissimilar to Cognitive Behaviour Therapy). It's called "A Rational Guide To Living". In that you should find lots of information about how to change the way you feel using the power of your mind.
 
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Yea I guess I understand what you mean. It's tough cus I loved life a lot and feels unfair to me that this should happen. Did you fully come out of this state and start feeling normal after you changed your thought patterns? How's your life now?
 
Hey how's your life now? And how long was it before you started realizing this?
 
Also I'm glad that you posted this it made me gather more hope to myself so thank you.
 
You could always try some nootropics like aniracetam or noopept to jump-start the mental healing process, and ease the transition back to a healthy, functional brain. 8(
 
Yea I guess I understand what you mean. It's tough cus I loved life a lot and feels unfair to me that this should happen. Did you fully come out of this state and start feeling normal after you changed your thought patterns? How's your life now?

My life was like a living hell before. I felt scared all the time. Alienated from everyone. I felt utterly empty and dead inside. Life felt hopeless and meaningless.

Now my life is fucking incredible. I am so incredibly happy. The other night I watched something that moved me so deeply that I cried with joy. In the past I had thought that it would never be possible for me to feel so deeply again. But it is. So much of everything we experience is created by how we think. I had the power to make my life a misery before, and am now using that power to make it incredible.

I really hope you can turn things around for yourself :-)

One piece of advice as well, get interested in science, logic, and rationality. There's a good site, skepdic.com, which explains loads of different cognitive biases we humans have. Becoming aware of them is important. Also, check out all the logical fallacies (http://www.skepdic.com/tilogic.html). They'll help you think better.

Also another great resource: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Rationality_materials

That one I've barely scratched the surface with, but I'm aware that it is extremely potent stuff for sharpening your mind.

As well yeah, get that book!
 
I just want my old self back

Unfortunately, you will never be exactly the same as you were before. Fortunately, this doesn't matter. I believe people are in a constant state of change, so that the person you were 2 weeks ago is not the same person you are now, and that the person you are now will not be the same person you are in the future. You see? It's just a mind game. You want what you can't have and the more you that you think that you can have it, the worse off you'll be.

What you really want is to no longer suffer from social anxiety and/or depressive thoughts that may or may not have been exacerbated by your acid trip.

Sounds to me your just stressing yourself unto yourself. Stress is a powerful manipulator of our thought process, similar to the cognitive bias' that coolcucumber was talking about. Google the pdf of the Art of Seeing by Aldous Huxley. It may prove useful.
 
Be very, very wary of "getting help". Making it known to the authorities that you're a drug user can lead to a helluva lot of problems later in your life. The only answer they will ever give you is "Don't take drugs".
 
I've been through pretty much exactly what you've mentioned...

Long story short, was outgoing and had tons of friends, people used to seek out my company, used acid fairly regularly for a few years, then had a really bad trip.

As a result of the bad trip, I started to isolate myself socially. When in social situations I was paranoid and shy, something I'd never been. I was filled with self-loathing when alone too. My thoughts became very jumbled and I struggled to maintain focus, which led to me dropping out of university. At varsity I was top student in my year (B.Sc Biochemistry) for 2 of my subjects, and had been elected class representative for those same subjects prior to the problems.

I ended up pretty much locking myself away from the world and watching tv, a total recluse. The one little joy I still took from life was that I could still surf. But even then I'd drive around looking for uncrowded spots, as I'd get paranoid surfing with others. If it wasn't for the surfing I probably wouldn't be around now, having taken my own life, something I came close to on a few occasions. And not in a 'cry-for-help' kinda way.

In the end I confided in my mother (who lived some distance away, hence her not having seen all this for herself). Together we booked an appointment with a psychiatrist. I'd always been dead-set against psychiatrists and psychiatric medication, having felt that healing had to be 'natural' and come from yourself. How sad that I'd persisted with this outlook for so long.

In the end the psychiatrist diagnosed me with major depression as well as a serious form of anxiety disorder, all stemming from my hallucinogen and weed use. He prescribed me a low dose anti-psychotic and a medium dose anti-depressant.

These two medicines turned my life around completely. I'm now back to being fully functional, have a lovely girlfriend who I've live with for 6yrs, and a small but good cirlce of friends. Most importantly I've not become the person that I was before the drugs, but have integrated all that happened to me and become a functioning and well-adjusted person who has learnt a lot from the hardships, rather than pretending they never happened. I thought the meds would at the very most just clear a bit of the fog and get rid of the suicidal thoughts. I had no idea they'd be so profoundly successful, and with so few side-effects.

Pm me if you want to know more, I'm happy to help. Breaks my heart to see someone in the depths of what I went through, and I registered just to write this message, so hope it gives you some hope that all is not lost. All I can say is stay far away from these substances from no on. They are fine for a lot of people. But for a significant section of other people they are most definitely not fine. And speak to you family and let them help you to seek help...
 
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And don't worry about the 'authorities' when seeking help.

Doctor-patient confidentiality still means something in this world.
 
I don't think that that user is going to see this, those 2 posts where his only ones..


Have you gone through therapy though?
 
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