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LSD + MDMA -- First Time Candyflipping -- Perfect Synergy!

Mysterious

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lsd + mdma(candyflipping) - first time combining - perfect synergy

Today’s date: 2/29/04

First I would like to state my experience with MDMA and LSD.

Before this experiment my experience with MDMA has been limited to a total of 5 and a half rolls and 1 molly over 10 months (never more then 1 roll/molly in a single night). My LSD experience had been 7 doses over 8 months (3 hits first, 1 hit each time after that).

I had wondered about the combination of MDMA and LSD since mid summertime when a occasional friend would sometimes be around and he always seemed to be candyflipping. I guess he enjoyed it a whole lot and wanted to have all his fun before he was shipped off to the Navy last fall.

A couple weeks ago I ended up with some doses and some MDMA, the first time I have had both at the same time.

Afternoon/evening of 2/27/04 and the morning of 2/28/04:

A friend of mine wanted to try some acid with me (we will call him G), he had been growing some mushrooms, but really didn't like doing them, but he was interested in acid. So we decided we would both drop a hit, and 3 other buddies (call them E, M, and C) would eat some home grown mushrooms, and we would have a good time. Earlier that day, I had picked up a new batch of rolls, blue Christmas trees to be exact. The guy had said they were they best rolls he has ever had.

Now, I wasn't planning on candyflipping this night, but now I had all the ingredients. I was originally going to wait 2 weeks until I went to see Ferry Corsten in Montreal. I finally decided that I would try the candyflip at home this night, just so I would be prepared for the experience in Montreal to follow.

To prepare my body for this experiment, I ate a plate of vegetables and fruit at about 3pm. I saturated my body with water and Gatorade, and then took a Centrum multivitamin.

G and I had planned on taking a dose each at about 6pm, when he got back from his midterm exam. Then we would have the other 3 eat their mushrooms at about 8pm (when C got to our place after his midterm). This way all five of us would have our psychedelic peaks at the same time. Well, G ended up finishing early and came back and wanted to take our doses right away. I agreed to take it early with him, considering it was his first time, and I remember how hard it was to get to sleep after my first time.

So, at 4:50pm on Friday we both took 1 hit of the fractal blotter that I had. In addition, I took another multivitamin and 1000mg of vitamin C (for antioxidant protection). We then proceeded to smoke a bowl with our friend P who had just shown up to watch us trip a little before he went drinking for the night. A and myself decided that we would wait till the "tweaked" feeling of the acid coming come up gave us enough energy to leave the house(this energy dawned on us around 5:25pm). We would go to the grocery store to pickup his vacation photos. I also needed to get a lighter and some hard candy to suck on for later when was candyflipping. After this little excursion, we turned to our house. At this point, G is starting to feel the effects, and so am I. At 6pm, A, myself, and P all smoked another bowl and goofed around a little. At 6:50pm I was feeling the acid pretty well and decided that I would take 1 blue Christmas tree. I waited two hours between taking the acid and the E because of recommendations from people here on bluelight. This timing would allow my rolling peak to coincide with my acid peak.

At this point I stopped taking notes on experiment because I was having too much fun. About half an hour after I had taken the roll, I started to come up on it, and was probably full up after about another 30-40min. This is when C showed up at our (Me, G, E, and M live together) place. C asked me how I was doing, and I said "great". He said I was acting totally normal, which surprised him, but I figured it was just because of my experience and handle on drugs. He said the only thing he notices different about me at this point is my dilated pupils.

At about 8pm now, we measured the half ounce of mushrooms that G had grown into 4 equal bags. This half ounce consisted of some cubensis mushrooms as well as some other exotic psilocybin mushrooms. M, C, and E each ate the contents of one bag. The mushrooms might have still had some water left in them, but were mostly dry. C and M had done mushrooms once before, but hadn't had a particularly strong trip, probably because of moderate(2.5 grams) dosage and their above average body weights(C is 6'3 200lbs and M is 6' 240lbs). C, M, and E each had relatively empty stomachs. C said he wanted to wait a little while and if he wasn't tripping hard enough, then he would split the last bag of mushrooms with M.

My trip is going really well by this point in the night. I am having the slight mind trip from the acid, as well as some visuals. The MDMA is making the trip happy, and combining its body buzz with that of the acid body buzz to produce a very nice feeling all over. The feelings I was having weren't that of just acid or MDMA, but a combo. I don't think I could distinguish between the effects. Maybe it is because both drugs play with serotonin, but the 2 drugs seemed to synergize perfectly just as people had told me. The next part of the evening is a little foggy, but I believe we smoked a couple more bowls in order to get the shroomer's trips going. E seemed to notice the mushrooms first (25min after ingestion). He said he had some stomach discomfort, but that it was going away, and that things started to become more fluid.

I was just having the best time of my life now. At about 9 or 9:30 C and M started to come up on the mushrooms some. A friend drove up to our house in his GMC Envoy that he has from his parents for a few weeks. This friend, we will call him P, doesn't really do drugs, although he ate a half of a special brownie I made on a ski trip once. P and G said they were hungry and were going to drive and get some McDonalds (ick). I thought it would be fun to drive around downtown in a nice comfy car while we were all tripping. So I said we should all get in and go because it will be fun. So we drive down the main downtown road from my place, crank the music and roll through downtown. Because of the time of night, downtown is nice and lively and the lights have a nice trippy glow to them at this point thanks to the acid and to a lesser extent the MDMA. McDonalds was very interesting, and I don't think I will ever look at that McDonalds again. E commented on the situation at some point will we were eating, "This is so weird. 3 of us are on mushrooms and two of us are on acid and we are sitting in this busy McDonalds and no one is the wiser." Another interesting comment made at this point of the evening consisted of A pouring out his super sized fries and saying, "wow, it doesn't seem like there are that many fries in there till you pour them out. Then it is like its a huge mound."

When we returned to the house, C and Mi said they weren't feeling the mushrooms as much as they wanted, so they split the 4th bag. For the next two hours or so, we watched the documentary "Grass" about the history of marijuana prohibition in the states. We continued packing and smoking bong bowls, pipe bowls, whatever. Around midnight the strong candyflipping felt like it was over, but a much extended come down candyflip feeling remained. Around 12:30 another friend, PA showed up with J. They were late for a pub crawl and the lines were too long so they showed up. E, PA and I had a couple cigarettes outside. E said it calmed his stomach, which had been attacking up earlier that day, prior to eating mushrooms. Then E, C and I walked to get more cigarettes and went to a nearby coffee shop. On the way from the gas station to the coffee shop, E describes the lights going down the street as "a truly psychedelic experience." C imagined what it would be like in Las Vegas at that moment. C had some difficulty ordering his cookies at the coffee shop/donut place. He said everything seemed like it was going in super slow motion.

Upon returning to the house, more cigarettes and bowls were smoked. We watched various TV shows including Sponge Bob Square Pants, That 70's Show, and Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Everyone enjoyed sponge bob immensely. The specific episode of aqua teen made the 5 of us who were tripping giggle like schoolgirls.

Around 2:30 am, PB, the only guy I live with who wasn't tripping that night, came back drunk. He arrived with a female and male who we knew. The female busted into my room, and flipped on the light while we were watching TV. This startled C a lot, and he couldn't understand why she was being so "in your face" so to speak. PB grabbed some weed and a bong and went to his room to smoke with his buddies. The night sort of calmed down and people left, thanking me for a great evening. E and I talked for a bit and played guitar till I seemed tired. It was about 4:30 or 5am, and I tried to go to sleep but couldn’t. I went on the computer till what seemed 7. I lay in bed for a while, getting close to sleep when at precisely 8am, I hear someone yelling, “I am going to fucking kill you.” At first I think it must be someone in the house playing a joke on someone else who is sleeping. Eventually, I stand up and look out the window and see a talk skinny guy holding a smaller guy’s shirt and still yelling the same thing over and over. The smaller guy was on the sidewalk in front of my house. Another guy runs up to the taller guy and watches. They both leave within a minute or two. As the tall guy walks up the street he yells, “If I ever see you again I am going to kill you.” The small guy sits on the sidewalk for another minute with his head in his hands, and then walks off. I concluded later that day that it must have been the weird people who work at the gas station at the end of the block. With this, I finally was able to go to sleep. I awoke at 3:55pm, still tired.

Conclusion:

Candyflipping is really fun. It is not for the inexperienced. The combination of MDMA and LSD is great synergy. I wonder if it is because they both play with our serotonin. The one thing I learned from the acid is that I need to stop biting my nails as a nervous twitch. The only side effects since have been a mild “return” to the experience when I get really high since then (2 days). This effect has been decreasing with each session. Also I have a little bit of back and right hand pain.
 
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Re: lsd + mdma(candyflipping) - first time combining - perfect synergy

Mysterious said:
"wow, it doesn't seem like there are that many fries in there till your pour them out. Then it is like its a huge mound."

haha! priceless :)

I haven't mixed E with acid for two reasons....
First, I'm tired of E and have no interest in doing it any time soon.
Second, I'm concerned the E will "retard" the heightened state of mind that LSD promotes.

Did you have as much insight, and feel as "pure" as LSD alone?
 
The E doesn't retard the acid at all, atleast with my experience. I have heard some people say the acid retards the E. I guess it really has to do with quality and quantity of each drug.

Bluedolphin - I definately still had all the effects of LSD alone, the insight and visuals etc.

On a different note, I will probably stop using E after this summer. I will then revert back to only "hippy" drugs(pot, acid and mushrooms).
 
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acid is NOT and i repeat NOT a drug to be taken for a kick.. mixing it with excstacy will surely create this situation. you havnt tripped until you have reached the spiritual wonderland acid alone takes you to. sitting around watching spungebob is fine, but next time you trip.. make it more of a learning experience.. acid is a very special substance and should be respected.. if you fuck around with it and add things u will be disrespecting it and believe me it will fuck you up within no time.. RESPECT UNCLE SID!
 
^^^Um, im glad you are here to tell me what acid should and should not be used for. You have truely opened my eyes to the true nature of psychedelics. HAHAHA.

Dude, I know acid is a powerful substance. Over the summer I had a life changing experience with it. You obviously didn't read my whole report, because in no way did I just "sit around and watch spongebob".

You might think that acid is only to be used in a certain way, but in a recreational drug environment like we have today, this will never be the case.
 
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Although i do think that people need to make there own decisions about drugs I do agree to an extent with endlesseulogy.

LSD can be agreat spiritual teacher and learning tool.

Yet I found this out by accident.
When I first took LSD, I took it for kicks...... eventually it showed me more than I could have imagined..... but thats not to say taking it for kicks is wrong...... it can be a lot of fun. I cant argue with that.

And while i dont think i will ever candyflip myself (i dont see any value in it) I respect peoples right to try things for themself.

and endlesseulogy:
LSD is **NOT** alone the only thing that can take you to the "spiritual wonderland"..... to say so is rediculous........ other drugs such as mescaline, psilocybin and other psychadelics are capable........ but beyond that meditation and a healthy happy lifestyle is also capable of this without the aid of any drugs, and as someone preaching about lsd you should know this.

Not trying to start a war or pick on anyone, just sharing my views... which we are all entitled to.
 
LSD+MDA or MDMA in my experience enhances the mindstate of LSD. You have to dose it so that the MDxx gives the trip a "kick". I've only candyflipped a few times and they have all been very positive/life-affirming trips. In fact, my best trip ever was a combination of Red Rocks+LSD+MDA+String Cheese Incident. That trip definatly changed my life. I have been pretty good with using MDxx chems sparingly, the only time I went overboard was using it every weekend for a month last summer. Since then I've used it twice.

[Edit] - Oh yeah personally MDxx chems always give me more "spiritual" trips then LSD does, but thats just me.
 
Phactor - Wow. Candyflipping at a SCI concert at Red Rocks. That must have been amazing. I totally agree with you, MDxx enhances the mindtrip of the LSD. But I also agree with using MDxx sparingly.

Again, I only candyflipped this night to make sure I could handle it. I wanted to candyflip for my first time with friends in a familiar setting before I tried it somewhere else.
 
Excellent!

Candyflipping is amazing! It really is a great synergy. There are only some times you can feel an MDMA or LSD only wave of effects, but together, it does create a drug much more powerful than both alone. It can also be very confusing, and the comedown is a bit weird :) Especially when you add some 2c+i and a few hits of n2o into it... I'll have to report that chaos one day ;-)

I must say that I also LOVE the body feeling. You get these MDMA+LSD rushes combined, BUT, the LSD body load isn't really there, you just feel... nice. But yes, MDMA won't calm down a LSD trip, only make it more intense.
 
I actually only tried this for the first time a few months ago and i just experienced something so unreal, now that i think about it its one of the ultimate combinations IMO.
 
Re: Re: lsd + mdma(candyflipping) - first time combining - perfect synergy

bluedolphin said:
I'm concerned the E will "retard" the heightened state of mind that LSD promotes.

Just to argue the point again, from my own experiences of mixing MDMA and LSD (as well as MDA and LSD), think how LSD helps you learn about the outside world and the way things work, and that MDxA substances help you learn about yourself, and to become more acquainted with your soul (so to speak). Now imagine combining those two elements to create a super education, and more sensory input and output than ever before.

There are rules of course, too much of one will fuck the other up, and don't expect to be etarded, or likewise, triptastic. Open mind, open eyes (and perhaps an open wallet so you can afford salt and vinegar crisps and toffee icecream, only the gods could help me discover such a nirvana like food experience ;) )
 
What does string cheese do for a trip in combinztion with MDMA or anything else? I'm new to this....
 
^^^ I think someone misinterpreted the following quote.

"In fact, my best trip ever was a combination of Red Rocks+LSD+MDA+String Cheese Incident."
 
I did misinterpret because I wasn't sure what string cheese was doing in that sentence or if it helped the experience any.
 
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