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LSD legalization

Legalize cannabis, and then when people open their mind a little, we'll move on to legalizing or at least decriminalizing other drugs.
 
Enter Galactic said:
Legalize cannabis, and then when people open their mind a little, we'll move on to legalizing or at least decriminalizing other drugs.
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Here's the concern I have;
When cannabis is legalised the cause will slump.
There will be so many less people with a vested interest in legalising drugs, that there won't be enough people fighting to be heard. The people who only smoke weed might fall back even to voting against the legalisation of other drugs.

IMO it has to be all or nothing.
 
Transform said:
Here's the concern I have;
When cannabis is legalised the cause will slump.
There will be so many less people with a vested interest in legalising drugs, that there won't be enough people fighting to be heard. The people who only smoke weed might fall back even to voting against the legalisation of other drugs.

IMO it has to be all or nothing.
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I agree with you that this might happen, but I don't think at least in the United States that people will be open to making what they consider to be 'hard' drugs legal. However, I think that if cannabis is legalized (and I think it really has a chance to be) people might see that the streets don't become crime ridden because of it, and then they will realize that treating people who use harder drugs like criminals is not the answer. In regards to psychedelics that are stronger than cannabis, they are slowly starting to find a legitimate place in medicine, and I think people would be much more open to their use as medicine when cannabis is legal. Maybe people who badly need psilocybin will be able to get it. The situation right now is that LSD/psilocybin/any strong psychedelic is looked at by the majority of society as something that will absolutely make you go bat shit crazy and murder everyone. People think this because the government and the media runs a campaign of propaganda against these drugs. I just started using psychedelics last year, and I've found myself in a place that I'm sure many people on here have experienced. I wanted to share my experience with other people, but I soon found out that not many people I interact with have any clue what these drugs do. Even my girlfriend who I've lived with for years thought they were extremely dangerous and I've just now started to unravel the spool of lies that has been etched into her head. There's just no way our society will accept the legalization of all drugs simply because they believe these lies.
 
^^This. And also, the average American wouldn't be able to handle a psychedelic trip. It would be dangerous and irresponsible to make powerful hallucinogens legal, to the point where anybody and their mother could go purchase them from a local drug store. Society couldn't handle it. There would be anarchy.
 
People could handle it if they understood what it was. My feeling is that not many more people would bother with it than they do now though. If someone wants to experience a psychedelic now they can very easily find something that can be bought legally.
 
Disagree. Legalise all drugs. Tis the only sensible option. And will never happen precisely because it's the only sensible option :\

Mindfruit: Since when was anarchy a Bad Thing? Anarchy is a brilliant way to organise (organise may not be quite the right word but you know what I mean ;)) society. You're thinking of chaos which is a totally different thing.
 
MindFruit said:
^^This. And also, the average American wouldn't be able to handle a psychedelic trip. It would be dangerous and irresponsible to make powerful hallucinogens legal, to the point where anybody and their mother could go purchase them from a local drug store. Society couldn't handle it. There would be anarchy.
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Nonsense. Fresh mushrooms were legal in the UK for a couple of years from 2003-2005. Their use exploded. Society didn't collapse.
 
They were surely legal from year dot up until 2005 in the UK no, Issy? They weren't suddenly legalised in 2003 - it's just nobody actually realised they weren't specifically illegal and so could be openly sold legally until 2003 when some clever soul spotted the loophole. Was pretty fuckin' sweet just popping into the local headshop for an oz of cubes for the weekend though.
 
Enter Galactic said:
However, I think that if cannabis is legalized (and I think it really has a chance to be) people might see that the streets don't become crime ridden because of it, and then they will realize that treating people who use harder drugs like criminals is not the answer.
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I wish. The average middle-class suburbanite doesn't see much crime , but they hear about it through the media. Even when crime levels drop, people who consume a lot of media think they are rising. It's well known that society's perception of risk is awful.

When drug crime drops, the papers will just report different crimes, and the population will still be scared and easy to control.

A scared population is not a rational population. An irrational population can be manipulated, and that's exactly what happens with drugs; the people are scared so they will believe what they are told.

They all need to be totally legal, but there do need to be controls on use to stop children and the unprepared from accessing them.
 
Crime rates in the UK (and US from memory) have been dropping steadily for years. Especially violent crime. Media reports of crime (especially violent crime) have steadily increased throughout this decline. Guess who the public choose to believe? :\
 
Believe me, the chances that pot will be legalized is probably a ton more likely than to get all drugs legalized. Let's just start with pot.
 
^^ Starting with cannabis is fine by me. What I was objecting to is those folks who make a big artificial separation between it and other drugs - "Legalise weed? Hell yeah. But not those scary other drugs like acid cos nobody except the chosen few can handle them. And legalising heroin or cocaine would surely bring down society by the following afternoon" kinda thing. All drugs were legal until the 1920s or thereabouts. It really wasn't such a problem then and would be even less of a problem now cos we actually understand the positive and negative effects they have.
 
all drugs should be legalised worldwide immediately. Drug prohibition creates more problems than it solves, if it even solves anything. Prohibition is bad for public health, costs rediculous amounts of money, doesn't lower dug use, provides organised crime with huge profits and power, puts non-voilent users in prison, wastes police and justice resources, and is morally dubious. The cure is worse than the disease. Prohibition does a lot of damage to our society. People will always use drugs, it's that simple.

But legalisation of drugs isn't going to happen any time soon. For politicians to want to legalise drugs, the majority of voters must demand it. And as long as the public view of drugs is naive, this will not happen. Non-users have no reason to change their (very firm) beliefs about drugs. Even a lot of users are against legalisation, although taking illegal drugs contradicts their opinion.
 
wellll if you want to know my opinion

legalize all non-physically addictive and safe if not completely misused drugs

decriminalize all physically addicting and carcinogenic drugs (make them readily avaible, and of pure and safe quality for those who choose to take them, but no I do not believe companies should be able to get rich off of physically addiciting drugs)

BUT whatever you do

end the damn war on drugs
 
society couldnt handle it

Fucking people just gotta be smart about it but unfortunately there are some dumb fucks that will ruin it for everyone

Bitches running around naked screaming bloody murder i can see it already

Parents chasing after them, whats happened to my babay! OMG shes been poisoned somebody please help!

Yea just like that is how it will go down
 
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