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LSD Discussion Thread (Australian Centric) v II

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thickskin said:
So what is peoples favourite method to get to sleep after a trip?
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I personally like getting to that "past sleep" stage and doing a lot of nitrous. I come down on any number of substances such as beer, weed, ketamine, G and opiates. I will only try to cut it short if everyone else goes to bed (i'll sometimes stay up by myself anyway) or if I am feeling crap and just want to sleep. I hate having handovers from seroquel so that is a last resort for me. Sex and cuddles is also great when coming down ;)
 
Codeine is great for LSD comedowns, I used to do a CWE before I ate my tabs and put it in the fridge for when I was ready to sleep. But the two times I've done it, I drank it around 6 am (dosed at around 8pm after a light meal) My stomachs empty by this time so the 720mg of codeine hits well but about 2 hours into the nod, I'll wake up and throw it all up again...

I don't mix it with anything, just straight down the hatch. Ive tried mixing it with alcohol, cordial and orange juice but i find it hardly masks up the foul taste and you just end up with a whole cup of orange filth instead of say 100 mils give or take of white liquid which I can swallow down in one shot.

Anyone else find their stomach cannot handle a CWE after a big night on LSD? Other times on empty stomach I'm fine, it's only after LSD :(
 
^ it's never a great idea to drink a CWE on an empty stomach. While the effects are stronger you're still injesting a reasonable amount of either paracetamol or ibuprofen so it's safest to have something else in there to slow the absorption. Ibuprofen in particular is notorious for gastric ulcers.

I've found codeine & dihydrocodeine pretty average at aiding with the tail end of a trip, the same with alcohol. They certainly take the edge off but what worries me is how much I can consume and still be up, alert and mentally stimulated. I've had oxycodone after a big night in LSD too and got to sleep fine but spent the next day vomiting :( In my experience benzos work much better.
 
Usually it's just some good ol' fashioned smoking of cone after cone on an acid comedown for me, maybe with a few beers and some nangs.

These days I don't mind adding benzos or seroquel when coming down off the trip if need be and I just want a long sleep.
 
Ended up not going a high dose trip yesterday as I came to the realisation that I did not have the time to reap the benefits of really going deep. Dosed 1.5 clouds and two of these white moon pills that I reckon must be something similar to MDMA but wern't but definitly added to the trip immensly and had a fuckin glorious time.
started smoking cones and drinking vodka 8+ hours into the trip and manged to fall asleep nicley at 11pm (dosed at 8am) only to be woken up feeling fresh and renewed.

FUCK I LOVE LSD
 
belarki said:
^ it's never a great idea to drink a CWE on an empty stomach. While the effects are stronger you're still injesting a reasonable amount of either paracetamol or ibuprofen so it's safest to have something else in there to slow the absorption. Ibuprofen in particular is notorious for gastric ulcers.

I've found codeine & dihydrocodeine pretty average at aiding with the tail end of a trip, the same with alcohol. They certainly take the edge off but what worries me is how much I can consume and still be up, alert and mentally stimulated. I've had oxycodone after a big night in LSD too and got to sleep fine but spent the next day vomiting :( In my experience benzos work much better.
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Thanks for the advice belarki! But yes after these two experiences of codeine on the comedown it felt blissful and made me sleepy but the regurgitation was just not worth it... It tastes just as bad on the way up...

In my adventures last night, I maybe now have access to benzo's, in particular Valium. I know that this isn't the El Benzo thread but I'll try to relate this as much to LSD as I can... If I wanted to perhaps utilize these new accessible Valium's for an LSD comedown whats a good dose for a zero tolerance beginner such as I?

I'm not looking for a complete "kill the trip" type dose but maybe more or a relaxing type dose so I can eliminate the stimulation and just drift quietly off to sleep while thinking about my newly gained insights?

Additional information that might be relevant to the question is over the course of the trip I usually drink around 6-8 beers or 6 OP rums. Between roughly 9.6 and 11.4 standard drinks. I guess that might need to be taken into account when calculating dosage since I've already got a CNS depressant working for me... Thanks in advance :)
 
I found that half a 2mg Xanax was perfect for that, so possibly... 5mg of Valium? I think that's right, not 100% though.
 
Any insights you found on acid.... you can find in real life... just sayin'

LSD barely has a comedown that's worth worrying about IMO, compared to MDxx substances, (meth)amphetamines and other strong stimulants that is. You can just ride out the residual stimulation, you'll probably have more 'insights' and be able to integrate the trip into your psyche better without adding downers on top to sleep/knock-out/diminish or kill the trip - even if it's the comedown - sometimes the most important things are realised during that time.

Without any tolerance I'd recommend 10 - 15mg Valium for a first time user. Leaning more towards 10mg.
 
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puckboy said:
Any insights you found on acid.... you can find in real life... just sayin'
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That bit was a joke, I'll quit while I'm ahead at being funny =D

puckboy said:
LSD barely has a comedown that's worth worrying about IMO, compared to MDxx substances, (meth)amphetamines and other strong stimulants that is. You can just ride out the residual stimulation, you'll probably have more 'insights' and be able to integrate the trip into your psyche better without adding downers on top to sleep/knock-out/diminish or kill the trip - even if it's the comedown - sometimes the most important things are realised during that time.

Without any tolerance I'd recommend 10 - 15mg Valium for a first time user. Leaning more towards 10mg.
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I'm very much of a night tripper, going out on the town usually dosing around 10pm. This will leave me with stimulation for over 12 hours. I already cleared this with a few posts above that I am not fond of the cracked out state I am left in without a proper rest after LSD. I love the feeling of having a sleep and then waking up feeling that refreshed and restored :) But thanks for the reply's everyone!
 
I discovered something that I thought you guys might find interesting (sorry mods am aware it has nothing to do with harm reduction)

Ok so now to the point of this post. On 2 occasions it's come to my attention that my cat acts differently towards me when I'm tripping, she becomes really scared of me and hiss's at me but only when I'm tripping. I've done nothing to cause this behaviour but tested this out with a friend tripping and she did the same thing to him. Which leads me to the assumption that somehow animals can sense this altered state of consciousness that LSD causes.

Has anyone else found this with their pets?
 
Initially I thought the same thing TrippAR but she has been around me before with my pupils being massive from a big night getting on it and she was fine, she only seems to act this way with LSD.

But I might try wearing dark shades next time to see if it makes any difference.

I wish my cat was as affectionate as your cat Sameria, I'm lucky to get 10 min of pats even when sober.
 
my innerself said:
Nah seroqual won't make you forget your trip. Great at knocking you out but make sure you don't have anything planned for the next day cause you will be a zombie.
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Interesting, I use Seroquel to sleep instead of my anti-depressants (mirtazapine) because I can function better the next day. I find I can function after it better than with opiates, alcohol, or anti-histamines.

puckboy said:
LSD barely has a comedown that's worth worrying about IMO, compared to MDxx substances, (meth)amphetamines and other strong stimulants that is. You can just ride out the residual stimulation, you'll probably have more 'insights' and be able to integrate the trip into your psyche better without adding downers on top to sleep/knock-out/diminish or kill the trip - even if it's the comedown - sometimes the most important things are realised during that time.

Without any tolerance I'd recommend 10 - 15mg Valium for a first time user. Leaning more towards 10mg.
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I've spent an hour pacing back and forth because of LSD stimulation whilst considering going to the hospital because my whole body had insane RLS and I would twitch madly every few seconds. I won't take a psychedelic without something to come down on now, stims I am more likely to dose without anything to come down on.

I think my first recreational dose of Valium was 20mg and that was sober, but you can always take more not less.
 
Yea my cat also act's weird too when I'm on LSD. I reckon they can sense that your on something. She always backs off when i go to grab her and run's off.

Also, the only time my pupils dilated on LSD was my first time taking it. Every other time they stay normal..
 
Interesting, I use Seroquel to sleep instead of my anti-depressants (mirtazapine) because I can function better the next day. I find I can function after it better than with opiates, alcohol, or anti-histamines.
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Seroquel is a shorter acting antipsychotic. Ziprasidone is also a short acting antipsychotic, and I found it wouldn't make me too out of it the next day unless I actually took my doses like I was supposed to. Unlike risperidone; fuck that would make me completely out of it, I hated it so much. No wonder psychosis patients have a poor record of sticking to their meds, when you add in the other side-effects as well.
 
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