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LSD Discussion Thread (Australian Centric) Mach III

I only use movies while waiting for the trip to kick in. Usually by the end of the movie I've lost all comprehension of what's going on in the picture box. Or I'll end up staring at the wall behind the TV because the movie has 'bled' out and is showing you parts you can't normally see in the movie.

After the first movie ends, the TV/computer doesn't get turned on again.
 
^ yeah good call.
i watched a documentary on my laptop twice whilst waiting for a 2c-p trip to commence a couple of weeks ago.
can really help to have a distraction for difficult come-ups - this applies to LSD and mushrooms as well IMO.
 
How was the 2C-P? I am eating some for a festival this week, along with a few other things. It's been a long time since I looked out the window and saw the metallic silver/purple technicolor world :D
 
gruelling as fuck. i don't know that i got much from it, except a hell of a long come-up and a lot of tingling and stimulation that bordered on the uncomfortable.
i'm fairly new to the 2C family (late for the party, i know) but i much prefer 2C-D.
and i prefer LSD to both of them.
 
I would choose nearly every 2C over LSD but even more preferably do them together. How much did you dose? I am yet to try D but I have heard good things. P for me had none of the side effects that all the other 2C's have but I only tried once and mixed 2C-T-4, (Which btw was nothing like T-2 and T-7, which are amazing). I was surprised also that for the huge duration, I didnt feel "fried" at all until the end which by that time I was overly tired so had a few cones and passed out.
 
i had about 13 mg. i will admit though, that set+setting were not optimal.
i'm thinking about having 2c-d with acid next time i trip. does mixing 2c-x with LSD increase the vasoconstriction of the latter? i usually only mix acid with relaxing things, such as pod tea.
 
it's all about set and setting.
feeling safe is quite a critical point if you have pre-existing anxiety issues.
whether you are indoors or outdoors is beside the point, but my personal view is that watching a screen is too passive, and i get so much more from just interacting with the world around me a little bit. yeah, your perception is all askew, but this is true about anything you are likely to encounter in a trip.
of course everyone is different, and i don't even own a tv, so it's not really part of my life, but the best trips i've ever had have been in nature or doing something like playing with sound or other creative pursuits.
it sounds like psychedelics aren't your preferred drugs of choice, though JS, so i guess you need to pay particular attention to the set+setting in order to enjoy yourself, whereas i've done acid in all kinds of awkward situations and greatly enjoyed myself. each to their own...

yeah set and setting is everything when it comes pychs.i used to be a huuuuge fan of pychs until that awwwful awful trip (i had my fair share of bad trips but this one was just crazy) MDMA and ketamine would be my most used drugs but NN-DMT holds a speical place in my heart and will always be my fav substance just becouse of how intense and amazing it can be.i'd love to get back into pychs i had a big run on them for about a year learnt alot of things then had my ass handed to me by lucy and just stoped using pychs (besides dmt very rarely tho) but im feeling the call again and think its time to get back into lsd.hell i used to be able to handle 6 cherubs at a music festival walking around with a bluelighter who i met that day :p
 
gruelling as fuck. i don't know that i got much from it, except a hell of a long come-up and a lot of tingling and stimulation that bordered on the uncomfortable.
i'm fairly new to the 2C family (late for the party, i know) but i much prefer 2C-D.
and i prefer LSD to both of them.

i quite enjoyed 2c-b when i had the chance of trying it.my first trip was ummmm not that fun it was balls to the wall extreme.60mg of it up the nose.n my mate had close to 100mg.in loower doses tho about 20-30mg doses up the nose it was quite fun :)
 
I would choose nearly every 2C over LSD but even more preferably do them together. How much did you dose? I am yet to try D but I have heard good things. P for me had none of the side effects that all the other 2C's have but I only tried once and mixed 2C-T-4, (Which btw was nothing like T-2 and T-7, which are amazing). I was surprised also that for the huge duration, I didnt feel "fried" at all until the end which by that time I was overly tired so had a few cones and passed out.


The only 2C is like is 2CB and 2CT7 isnt too bad either, the rest feel too weird for me, id rather molly and acid both low doses to get similar effects. Dimitri is just awesome, its great that it only lasts for 5-10 mins, boy it is so intense. U get full blown OEV's that can scare u literally. The body load well its electrofrying:) Its just crazy, everything becomes pixellated :)
 
i had about 13 mg. i will admit though, that set+setting were not optimal.
i'm thinking about having 2c-d with acid next time i trip. does mixing 2c-x with LSD increase the vasoconstriction of the latter? i usually only mix acid with relaxing things, such as pod tea.

I am sure it would some what but I have never noticed it getting out of hand, I get the feeling candyflipping would be worse for vasoconstriction but I have never candy flipped due to MDMA dysphoria. Wow, you do know 13mg should be a somewhat huge dose? Psilo and I used to talk about 2C and Acid combinations for hours on end.
 
yeah, 13 mg is in the upper end of doses.
i didn't want a 12-18 hour trip that wasn't quite 'there'. may try again on a lower dose, but i've had a huge tolerance for most psychs lately.

i had a great experience with 2C-D on the weekend though. pretty pleasant. i've never been a big fan of MDMA (or candyflipping) so i think i'm going to have to give this a shot :)
 
i quite enjoyed 2c-b when i had the chance of trying it.my first trip was ummmm not that fun it was balls to the wall extreme.60mg of it up the nose.n my mate had close to 100mg.in loower doses tho about 20-30mg doses up the nose it was quite fun :)

Orally most find with 2C-B that the intensity of side effects increases too much above ~30mg to dose any higher. Personally, I've done closer to 40 and it wasn't intense enough and too uncomfortable to push on. 2C-C is the fucking bomb for snorting insane doses, 60mg snorted gave me visuals that rivaled 500ug+ LSD trips.
 
yeah, 13 mg is in the upper end of doses.
i didn't want a 12-18 hour trip that wasn't quite 'there'. i had a great experience with 2C-D on the weekend though. pretty pleasant. i've never been a big fan of MDMA (or candyflipping) so i think i'm going to have to give this a shot :)

You will enjoy. Mixing psychs is quite fun and it's gets a lot easier to make sure you don't have a trip that isn't quite "there". After a few experiments you will get a feel for it too, every time I try a new psych, once I am on the plateau I know every other psych that will mix well with it. I would suggest dropping the D at about the peak of the acid, depending on how much acid you've eaten and how much time it takes for 2C's to come on for you but try and time it so the D peaks as the acid peak begins to taper off as I believe D is fairly short acting and they should end up both wearing off at about the same time.
 
^ yep, 2c-D seems to have about a 4 hour duration, so that sounds about right.
well, i do have a milestone of sorts coming up shortly...sounds like the ticket, so to speak.
cheers jake :)
 
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Only got one acid paper, the gf and I want to have a bit of fun on the weekend.

I tried but am having no luck getting anymore at the moment.

What I was wondering is what would be best to combine with it to make a decent day out of it.

Either dxm or shrooms? What doses and what time should we dose.

The last time I had something left over (sugar cube), the gf and I went halfs but it just wasent enough to enjoy.

We'll probably be hanging round the house, up in the bush, chilling on the verandah, maybe even getting some gardening done. So maybe no ego-death doses lol.
 
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Psilo and I used to talk about 2C and Acid combinations for hours on end.

IMO you just can't beat a well timed 2C*+LSD combo for earth shattering/life changing trips. Fungi and LSD is awesome but, I have far surpassed the shroom+LSD combo trips by working out my sweet/peak effect spots with both chemicals (LSD+2C*) and sticking to strict dose/timing schedules. Ahhh the memories are flooding back now!!!

I found timing to be very critical for best results when combining these substances. Each 2C* has a sweet spot where it will best synergize with LSD, most people with my level of experience with such combo's had similar opinions to me but, a few trippers prefered other dose/timing regimes to myself. Each to their own...

My personal top 3 to mix with lucy in descending order would generally be as follows...

2C-B: After many trips with these 2 old favourites I found 2C-B best taken about 15mins after the LSD comeup, when the visuals start to take effect. I rate this combo so high due to it's user friendly effects when taken at roughly half the dose you would take when dosing either substance on their own. It rarely got pear shaped in high doses IMO and never made me run for the safety of my tent at a bush doof (I have had terrible experiences with the likes of 2C-I and 2C-P when combined with LSD and don't wish that upon anyone!).


2C-E: This chemical can have a pretty rough comeup with nausea and bodily discomfort. It generally takes 90+mins to start to shine and then lasts for a similar time frame to that of a 200(ish)ug LSD dose. For these reasons, I found it best taken 1.5-2hrs before dosing the LSD. When dosing LSD at the peak of the 2C-E experience it can usually be felt within 10mins and to this day would have to be my most visual and intense mind trips by a good 25%. I struggle to mix these 2 chems in the company of others and found this combo difficult to handle unless I was with 1 or 2 close friends, tripping around a camp fire in the secluded Australian bush. Even when I can't string a sentence together and I'm struggling to do simple tasks such as opening a drink, I have always been able to centre myself by fire twirling when in the depths of this trip. It's got me fucked how I can fire twirl/drum like a demon on this combo and yet I struggle to remember who I am, how to open a drink or even think for a second what baseline is/was like. Heck, I usually have to get someone to open the fuel and dip my staff but, once that thing is lit my body just flows pure creation through this intense and beloved art form :)

2C-D: While I don't rate this one at all on it's own, even at doses of 50+mg, I have to rate it highly when combined with LSD and other psychs. As nanobrain once famously posted "2C-D is pharmacological tofu". I couldn't agree more with that statement and I have had a blast "dipping" away at a baggy of 2C-D in all sorts of settings and I can't remember a bad experience when combining this one with LSD and various other substances. I don't suggest taking unweighed doses of any RC but, if you had a choice, this one is certainly on the safer end of the eyeballed/finger dipping RC dosage scale.

99% of my 2C+LSD combos were done with decent liquid LSD and properly measured then remeasured doses of research chemicals from reputable sources.

I must add that these combos are brutal in what they can create/awake in ones psyche. Definitely not one for the faint hearted and not to be taken unless you are in the best of the best trip settings. I have ruined what should have been amazing occasions by over doing these substances. More than once it has taken me days or even weeks to really get my mind back to a civilized playing field. It's easy enough to come unstuck at low doses when combining these substances so only go down this path if you are in for balls deep psychonautical experiences and you know you will be in safe hands for at least 12hrs. LSD is unpredictable enough without the wild card of a RC thrown in there. Play it safe and take all reasonable precautions in the lead up to and during such an intense trip. I highly recommend not having any unwieghed RC's on or near you, as, I have seen this one end badly far too many times. If you take the right precautions you won't be dissapointed, just be prepared to be shell shocked and rocked hard by this one friends.

It's about time I got back on the horse and headed bush. It's been far too long since I powdered some acid with a phenethylamine ;)

Happy tripping
 
long time no see, psilo. thanks for that post - awesome.
As nanobrain once famously posted "2C-D is pharmacological tofu". I couldn't agree more with that statement and I have had a blast "dipping" away at a baggy of 2C-D in all sorts of settings and I can't remember a bad experience when combining this one with LSD and various other substances.
nano might've been quoting Dr Shulgin there, i reckon ;)
 
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