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Lsd anxiety vs. cannabis anxiety

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Zubi420

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which is generally worse. cause i often get confused, paranoid, and socially anxious while on cannabis usually on moderate - high doses. i wanted to try acid like tomorrow, cause my friend has, and wanted to know if i would experience just as much or more anxiety. btw im gonna take two hits. last time i took one tab and practically didnt feel anything, except kinda happy. no visuals or strange feelings/thoughts. also i wanted to tell that when im on cannabis and adderall, im usually less anxious and less confused. also on sativas (paradoxically) im usually less anxious somewhat because the high is clearer. i think it jmight be the confusion that would be making me anxious but also paranoia and social phobia.

im estimating the tabs are 20-40 ug each.

so is acid generally more anxiety provoking than cannabis? and im not talking about level 4 or 5 trips.


thanks. sorry if this doesnt make sense or has to be deleted for whatever reason.
 
Zubi420 said:
............ i took one tab and practically didnt feel anything, except kinda happy..................also on sativas (paradoxically) im usually less anxious somewhat because the high is clearer.........................
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A lot of people who use LSD claim that a low dose is more likely than a medium/high dose to cause anxiety on the come-up. So you seem to be OK there :). Also, the LSD high is usually very clear at low doses, so hopefully it will be similar to the sativa situation for you.

Whilst YMMV, go for the tried and tested formula (best possible set and setting) with your low dose, and you may well be in for an excellent trip =D .
 
Nothing in my opinion can come close to the fear and anxiety you feel while having a cannabis induced panic attack, I cant handle the stuff really at all and this is coming from someone who's been shooting meth all day.

Ive felt anxiety from LSD but its a different kind of anxiety, I dont know, im sure its different for everyone but if I start freaking on LSD it can somewhat control it but with weed once I start freaking theres no turning back. I stay away from pot these days.
 
Well i've never really gotten much anxiety from LSD but i have to say as paranoid and anxious as i can get from cannabis i still prefer it to what i could imagine freaking out on acid is like....
 
so is acid generally more anxiety provoking than cannabis? and im not talking about level 4 or 5 trips.
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Cannabis can induce anxiety like no other recrational drug I can think of if it hits you the wrong way & while a panic attack on a psychedelic is fairly uncommon & they can be quite overwheming, I have to agree that an anxiety attack on a fair sized dose of cannabis is way more likely; it seems you get locked into anxious thought loops much more easily with cannabis & they're harder to break out of

i still prefer it to what i could imagine freaking out on acid is like....
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I've had a panic attack while on a fair sized dose of liberty caps and it wasn't pleasant although it seems my brain has hidden away any detailed memories of the incident for my own protection. The main thing I remember is hyperventilating then it's a blank; according to my ex I passed out and scared the shit out of her as well
 
Not a good idea to anticipate any anxiety, expectation is a big part of it. I generally don't get anxious from weed-but have had a "white-knuckle" moment or two from comin on to Acid...kind of like the up side of a roller coaster-but it subsides pretty quick...:)
 
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I usually find anxiety from cannabis is worse than from LSD there are exceptions either way at times of course. Overall though over time I've found cannabis more anxiety inducing.
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Likewise, and I have no idea why really. The effects of weed are much 'milder' then LSD, but there seems to be a deep irrationality about being stoned on pot; certain ideas and concepts just can't be shaken. I find that LSD allows me at least to change perspectives on things a bit more when the going gets tough.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Cannabis can induce anxiety like no other recrational drug I can think of if it hits you the wrong way & while a panic attack on a psychedelic is fairly uncommon & they can be quite overwheming, I have to agree that an anxiety attack on a fair sized dose of cannabis is way more likely; it seems you get locked into anxious thought loops much more easily with cannabis & they're harder to break out of
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This is good to hear actually. Iv gotten insane panic attacks & paranoia from weed and Iv always thought you know, if I can't even handle the anxiety from a 'soft' psychedelic, how the heck would I be able to handle acid.
 
iwish said:
This is good to hear actually. Iv gotten insane panic attacks & paranoia from weed and Iv always thought you know, if I can't even handle the anxiety from a 'soft' psychedelic, how the heck would I be able to handle acid.
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this is exactly what i meant to say.
 
The anxiety I get from Cannabis makes it practically impossible to smoke these days - even smoking by myself with no one home is almost guaranteed to be a hellish experience that doesn't stop until I get some sleep (which the anxiety makes it very hard to sleep).

So much like yourself I was very worried when first trying LSD, but I was pleasantly surprised - sure LSD can be very intense and scary at times but it doesn't have the constant background paranoia that weed does for me. I'm not very experienced with LSD but I can easily go out on a moderate dose to music festivals/clubbing which is something I can't do after smoking weed.
 
Yeah, ive found weed to be alot worse. You get much more confused, disorientated and instead of an hallucination, its more of a delusion. Also, dont expect all tabs to be 20-40. Ive had some in the 150's
 
I've had a panic attack while on a fair sized dose of liberty caps and it wasn't pleasant although it seems my brain has hidden away any detailed memories of the incident for my own protection. The main thing I remember is hyperventilating then it's a blank; according to my ex I passed out and scared the shit out of her as well
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Large doses of shrooms are much scaryer than large doses of acid IMO. For me shrooms have this earthy feel that can quickly get dark, acid makes me feel like im floating liquid.
 
I've had countless panic attacks from cannabis and only one from LSD. I've noticed that I learn more from a panic attack on LSD than a cannabis induced one. For example if I'm tripping out on LSD, it's much easier to attempt to figure out why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling and what I can do about it. Also the LSD panic attack in my opinion is usually a bit more giggly and it's easier to laugh off my insane thoughts.

IMO cannabis panic attacks are usually completely irrational and once it's over I don't even think about it, and I'm just glad that it's over. And they aren't the type of panic attack where I can calm myself down through laughing at how stupid they are because when they happen they feel very real. With LSD i know the anxiety is irrational.

IMHO people really down play the cannabis panic attacks....I know I did, I never understood what people were talking about when they said weed gave them anxiety until after smoking daily for years I just started to have them.
 
Well, with cannabis, I'm always afraid of the smell and my eyes. With psychedelics, I know no one will know unless I tell them or I act retarded.
 
There is a good reason I tend to avoid cannabis and if I ever do, I smoke it in the form of Hash. It is simply the most unpredictable drug you can get, and I've had more panic attacks on it that I have had with any other drug.
 
Don't want to hijack this thread (although I think the OP has got plenty of good replies now), but I'm wondering what all you guys have been smoking? In 30 years of smoking with friends in UK, I've never seen a panic attack on cannabis. A few "whiteys" yes, but thev've been more body load than anything else. And by cannabis I don't mean the crap "soap bar" junk that parades as hash in the UK - I'm including top quality grass & etc. Or maybe it could be the soap bar stuff - I know on the rare occasions when I try it I generally feel worse after about 10 minutes :\ . But only marginally so.

I have had some slightly freaky moments on Mushrooms and very occasionally on acid ....... just curious as to why there are so many reports of cannabis freakouts!
 
Cannabis occasionally gets me a little bit anxious or paranoid, but this is unusual. The only time I've come even moderately close to panic was after eating to many hash brownies. I'm sure others can relate. Brownies can sneak up on you ...

I'm generally not a fan of cannabis though, so I rarely partake these days. It's main effects for me are feeling lazy, dumb, and forgetful ... the munchies are nice though.

LSD has been nothing but pleasure for me, except for one time ... and that one time was the only full out panic attack I've experienced in my entire life. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy; it was absolutely hellish. Somehow, a few hours later I happened upon my first ++++ with DMT, in which all the damage of earlier that day was instantly repaired.
 
I can get some real paranoia and anxiety smoking weed as well, actually, I hardly do so anymore--much more than on LSD. Also it's worth nothing that smoking weed on LSD is a really good way to get a panic attack/anxiety/paranoia if you are predisposed to such things, IMHO. In fact I'd venture to say that most of my anxious times on LSD involved smoking pot. Weed isn't necessarily a 'chilled-out' high to me, contrary to so much popular belief. Back when I was a heavy smoker I did not really realize how much it contributed to an overwhelming and lingering paranoia that I felt, and when I would dose, I would often smoke without giving much thought to it, and in fact it took me some time to realize that this was a major contributing factor to anxiety no LSD.

p.s. 20-40mcg? that is a very very lowball estimate... and especially if you are inexperienced with LSD, it can be exceedingly hard to gauge these things, hell, even I, quite experienced with LSD, hesitate to put numerical amounts of doses... the experience is so subjective. I believe that Leary & Alpert (or Leary or Alpert) did an experiment in which people were given X dose of LSD and told that they had ingested Y dose, they usually experienced an experience in line with Y dose (I think I read this in the preface to Be Here Now, could be wrong though, anyone know what i'm talking about?)
 
i often find the anxiety of the cannabis experience to be much worse than that of the LSD trip... which is ironic, considering LSD's reputation.

the truth is, cannabis is more of a "delerious" type of anxiety for me... with acid, i at least know -why- i'm anxious or -why- i'm paranoid. when it comes to pot's dark side, i just feel inexplicably confused, & it often turns out that i had absoloutely no reason to feel this way. in the midst of the experience though, it just doesn't seem to matter.
 
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