LSD Analouge

[DylanG204]

I have been searching for an analouge of LSD , but have had no luck,

Does anybody know wich one is easiest for suppliers to synthesize or most wideley available analouge would be ?
wich one is most worthwhile or most likey too find|?


thanks for your input !!

 

[sekio]

The only "analog" of LSD that is easily availiable is LSA from morning glory seeds or HBWR.

Bluelight is not here to reccomend you drugs though. No analog of lsd is "easy to synthesisze".

 

[DylanG204]

I never claimed they were "EASY" to synthisize .... i simply asked wich one would be easier , or most likeley available/stable.

 

[sekio]

Why does it matter? You're not going to be able to find a lab that will make ergoloid erivatives for you. There are simply too many concerns with toxicity, finding precursors, light sensitivity in synthesis, et cetera. The same Chinese labs that make phenethylamines and cathinones are ill-equipped to make ergoloids.

Essentially every "analog" of LSD is harder to make than LSD itself, less potent, or less desirable. And LSD is pretty damn hard to make.

No analogs of LSD are availiable on the open market as far as I know - LSD is the 'golden standard' and has been for quite some time. There are occasional rumblings of different amides being sold as LSD, but to my knowledge that is an urban legend, and even if it were true they are almost never sold as what they really are.

If you are talking about analogs in terms of dosage and efects tou should investigate the 25x-NBOMe series. They are non-ergoloid drugs unrelated to LSD though.

 

[DylanG204]

one of my dealers who was into the reaserch chemical scence 2ci etc .. sold me lsd , but i did not know real lsd at the time .
it had a really good body high ( way better than real lsd) not much for visuals , even at higher doses , really fun chem . definatley some sort of ergoline , ( PRETTY CHEEP TOO)
but way different than the expecive acid i have gotten since then , way different high. crazy visuals introspection etc... ths is the real deal ,and i have received ergoline analouges passed as lsd
this is a very good chance it is manufactured somewhere.

 

[sekio]

There is no way to tell from subjective effects whether or not a chemical is an ergoline. There are too many chemicals that are active at blotter-sized doses that have effects resembling LSD. BR-DFLY, DOx, NBOMe series, 5-MeO-AMT, etc.

The key point I want to drive home is that LSD and other ergoloids are very difficult to make. Almost every derivative of LSD that is more potent is more difficult to make by a factor of 5 or 10 (2,4 dimethyl azetidiyl lysergic amide, PRO-LAD, ETH-LAD). And any of them that are easier to make are less potent (methyl-isopropyl-lysergamide, lysergamide, 2-pentyl lysergamide). The only chemists that are maiing these analogs are making them in small quantities for actual scientific research under DEA supervision. (Dave Nichols).

It is incredibly unlikely you have ever come across an ergoloid other than LSA or LSD in your life. More importantly, it is impossible to tell from subjective effects. Unless you saved a blotter and could get it tested it is impossible to know.

 

[alteredstate8]

Very unlikely that what you had was an ergoline or lsd analogue. There are several RCs that can fit on blotters in microgram or milligram dosages and often passed off as lsd.

 

[DylanG204]

Olny LSD Analouges have no taste , i have taken 6 hits or more at a time , and had no taste OR TOXIC effects i think the feel of LSD and other ergolines are very distinguishable between other chems beacause the effects are unique and have the same feeling..

 

[sekio]

Even LSD has toxic effects at >500ug doses. Perhaps you were just taking weak LSD.

LSD and other drugs anre not neccesarily as easy to tell apart as you think. Rats can't tell the difference between MDA and LSD!

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Sorry, this discussion is only useful from a synth/vending point of view, and not part of what we cover in PD.