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LSD + 25i-NBOMe combination

Shpongleland

Shpongleland

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This isn't exactly a trip report, but a harm reduction warning. Hopefully other people can chime in with their experiences too so we can see if this is a safe combination.

A couple of days ago I combined 2 hits of LSD (~200ug total) and half a hit of 25i-NBOMe (~500ug). I preloaded an hour before this with diphenhydramine. No other drugs were taken. Anyways, an hour into the trip I got extremely sleepy. It was as if someone had given me a bunch of benzos and I needed to go to sleep as soon as possible. I know feeling this sleepy isn't normal so I panicked. I spent the next half hour or so gripping to reality as I came closer and closer to blacking out. Now, I've experienced ego-death off LSD alone and it wasn't sedating. With this combination I felt extremely sedated. After tripping balls and coming to terms with the possibility of real death, I eventually let go and vanished into a void. Apart from vasoconstriction, I didn't feel anything too "bad". No accelerated heart rate, temperature changes, or anything like that. It was actually sort of euphoric in terms of a body "high". I probably came back 15-30 minutes later. I was really sedated for the rest of the trip, but no longer passing out.

My biggest concern is why I felt SO sedated to the point of blacking out.

Also, the 25i was definitely overpowering. I can hardly say I felt the LSD. I've tripped off 1mg of 25i-NBOMe before, but this felt 2-3x stronger. There was probably some kind of synergy.

If anyone could share their experiences with this combination it would be great. Links to other reports or any sort of input would be greatly appreciated as I've been searching nonstop and I can't find anything.

As of now, I don't recommend this combination because I don't think it's safe.
 
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Interesting. Thanks for the warning, as I may have had the chance to combine with LSD. Still not tried alone though. But I'm referring to 25D. I know it seems 25I has more issues... Then again it is used the most. During my last LSD experience, I felt like I was going to pass out/faint during the come up. I thought it was due to not eating and lack of sleep playing on it, but I dunno.

How was the rest of your trip? Other than feeling sedated?

I wonder if its possible there was some kind of interaction with the anti-nausea meds, somehow.
 
If this seems to be an isolated incident then I guess you could try it. That's why I'm interested in reading other reports. I heard there's some on Shroomery but the website has been down for a few days. I thought there could have been some interaction with the diphenhydramine too but I'm not sure.

The rest of the trip was really intense and I tripped for about 12 hours. At one point it felt like I was tripping on 2 separate drugs and there were 2 different egos inside my head. I think the LSD was telling me to relax and just be, while the 25i put all my issues right in front of me so I could work on them. It was a really conflicting headspace. Eventually I sat down to "problem solve". The visuals were mainly really intense 25i visuals with colorful patterns. I must say there was hardly any LSD magic. During the peak (when I wasn't totally gone) I saw really complex mandalas that reminded me of the mayan calendar and it was rotating. I've tried 25i alone a bunch of times, and I hardly experienced vasoconstriction. This time it was really really bad (synergy?). I also exercised recently and the trip made the soreness even worse, even close to the end of the trip.

I'm not sure if it's kind of psychotic of me but I felt like I was having conversations with God or I was God himself. There was a lot of paradoxical thinking. This headspace is achievable through 25i alone though, so I feel like I wasted the last of my LSD on this trip. Even without the safety issues, I still wouldn't try this combo again because the LSD was hardly there.
 
It isn't a high dose but in result of interaction with other compounds could induce such of effects you described. To figure it out the only solution is repeat the experience without DPH.
 
That's very true, although I will never repeat the experience cause it was really scary. I'm pretty sure I've taken DPH with 25c or 25i alone and nothing strange happened. I think I'll stick to ginger root + NBOMe and never combine any NBOMe with LSD.
 
Hey everyone. I just remembered another piece to this equation. As I was getting sleepy I also felt my sinuses clear immensly. I could breathe like never before (I do have minor sinus problems). Anyway, do you think maybe the DPH was simply potentiated or something?
 
Shpongleland said:
I hate to admit it but I agree the benadryl was probably the culprit in this case.
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why hate to admit? We all make mistakes, and now you are ready for a nice combo that you discovered :) I actually really want to try this out myself, and thank you for posting the info you did. If you do give this another try, please let us know if in fact the benedryl was the problem. Polydrug use can have a different answer than the hypothesis:sus:

Was the 25I a blotter ? I nasal drip and would adjust dose accordingly. Sounds like there is some potentiating going on here =D
 
Well, apart from the sleepyness/passing out, I didn't actually like the combo too much because it felt like a waste of LSD. But yes, it was very strong and I am grateful for the experience. The 25i was extremely realistic and I worked out some issues that I had. You might want to dose higher on the LSD or lower on the 25i if you actually want to feel the LSD. You should also note that the vasoconstriction was really bad and my legs even felt numb at times. The synergy was crazy. Be careful for sure, and try to do more research.

Yes the 25i was on a blotter and I took half. Normally they are 1mg. I'll make sure I report if I ever try this combo again. I'll even PM you!
 
The first time I took 3mg 25i-Nbome, sniffing.
At the peak of my trip were very nice visuals, the entire room was blinking in different colors, and it was very funny!
 
I would say that it was the Benadryl, as that definitely makes sense with diphenahydramine's side effects profile.

LSD and 25i is a very intense combination, very heavy on the 5-HT2A receptors, felt a strong drain for awhile afterwards. But that's not too say it was one of my most intense trips, had almost complete ego-death, but resisted because of the 25i. The visuals and synesthasia were amazing! It was very unintelligent of me to combine L and 25i, there wasn't a single report on the dark web or normal web of the combination when I had tried it. This was about a year or so ago about 3 months after 25i was first synthed, and no information on it was known really, and then it hit the main market and got all that attention, and now it's incrediblly common to get it as L now. Strange how things change haha, I remmeber having to pm tregar to figure out how to volumetrically dose it.

I still think they are better apart, or maybe some 25i dropped 3-4 hours into an LSD trip. But manohman I'll never forget the black fractals... it's like 25i takes the "painted" aspect of LSD and makes it a "graphite pencil" effect.
 
Shpongleland said:
If this seems to be an isolated incident then I guess you could try it. That's why I'm interested in reading other reports. I heard there's some on Shroomery but the website has been down for a few days. I thought there could have been some interaction with the diphenhydramine too but I'm not sure.

The rest of the trip was really intense and I tripped for about 12 hours. At one point it felt like I was tripping on 2 separate drugs and there were 2 different egos inside my head. I think the LSD was telling me to relax and just be, while the 25i put all my issues right in front of me so I could work on them. It was a really conflicting headspace. Eventually I sat down to "problem solve". The visuals were mainly really intense 25i visuals with colorful patterns. I must say there was hardly any LSD magic. During the peak (when I wasn't totally gone) I saw really complex mandalas that reminded me of the mayan calendar and it was rotating. I've tried 25i alone a bunch of times, and I hardly experienced vasoconstriction. This time it was really really bad (synergy?). I also exercised recently and the trip made the soreness even worse, even close to the end of the trip.

I'm not sure if it's kind of psychotic of me but I felt like I was having conversations with God or I was God himself. There was a lot of paradoxical thinking. This headspace is achievable through 25i alone though, so I feel like I wasted the last of my LSD on this trip. Even without the safety issues, I still wouldn't try this combo again because the LSD was hardly there.
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I Also get the rotating intricate circle when i do 25-i nbome, doesent happen with 25-c.

Also when you think your seeing god it is probably because your so high , I was soo high on LSD one time i had really insane visuals and i thought LSD was god and i thought i was figureing out all
this amazin stuff , when really it isent amazing and makes no sence at all to a sober person. I
 
Tried 2 tabs of LSD + 2 tabs 25I

No concerns. Took 2 hits of LSD the week before and could not tell any differences. The second trip was less fun, but that's just the loss of magic. Did feel more burnt out after the LSD + 25I.
 
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