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LSD 150 vs 175mcg

Zalo

Zalo

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Hey BlueLight,

I'm quite experienced with low dose acid (100-125mcg), and have played around with 150mcg a couple times. I'm wondering if the dose response curve changes after a certain point as I'd like to try 175mcg. For those who have had experience how does the experience differ from 150 to 175mcg of LSD?

Thank you.
 
It will hardly be noticeable.
You could have a much harder trip off of 150 solely based on set and setting and mindset.
LSD has a fairly linear dose response curve
 
I'd say don't worry there is not such a steepness in the dose-response curve especially between numbers as close together as 150 and 175 ug which is only 1/6th more. If you did 150 ug a number of times then I assume it went well. 175 ug shouldn't be so different as to make it an unexpectedly difficult experience. However like Holy Toast says set and setting always vary which is a bigger source of unpredictability. Focus more on being centered and without terribly heavy things on your mind or being in a potentially hostile or unsecure place during the trip.

I will say that the 100-150-200 ug domain is different from say 400 ug. LSD for a lot of people including me, can be negotiated with until a certain point, but you can go pretty far without it becoming unforgiving. When you start going over 200 ug, the experience not only becomes more intense but also - quite significantly - increasingly immersive. Such immersion demands that you follow through with the experience and face the music. At high doses things like out-of-body experiences, visions and other strongly impressing phenomena start to present themselves.

It sounds like you are a bit overcautious but don't let anyone tell you that caution is a bad thing. You absolutely need it with drugs that are mind-bogglingly unpredictable such as say 2C-T-7.
 
it isn't uncommon for blotter to fluctuate +/- as much as 20mgs off from the intended/advertised dose due to things like evaporation, pooling...etc...etc

From Erowid:

"Paper blotters are created by taking a sheet of absorbant paper (usually decorated and perforated) and soaking it in a dilution of lysergic acid diethylamide. The dilution can vary greatly from one batch to another, or one chemist to another. Because of the method used to make blotter tabs, there is no practical way to know the exact dosage of a particular tab without either trying it or knowing the chemist. Adjacent tabs on a sheet will usually contain very similar levels of LSD."
 
I think that 25ug is within the range of variance between each blotter anyway, so there shouldn't be any real difference between 150 an 175ug
 
Don't want to hijack this thread, but I have a similar question. I have a few tabs from 3 different suppliers. Let's call them A, B and C. All are known to be reliable in terms of reported dose and quality.

I took my first 200ug tab (from supplier A) a couple of weeks ago.
It was my first foray into LSD but I've done other psychedelics before so I knew roughly what to expect. It was a good experience, but hardly what I'd call 'life changing'. Some good feelings, fairly strong OEVs at one point, but not as intense as I was thinking it would be. I was left feeling that I hadn't really got to the place I should have.

So now I have a small dilemma for my next trip. Should I try a higher dose of A (1.5 tabs, 2 tabs????) or take a tab of B or C? If I pick B or C, should I go for the same dosage as my first trip so I have a direct comparison between the suppliers or is it just that I probably require more than 200ug of anyone's acid?

What would you do?
 
How can anyone be so sure about the dosage you ingest?
(Honest question, no offence or anything intended, just curious).

Talking of variance of about bla µg makes me just wonder: From where do you any correct mean value (other than just _someone_ telling you _something_).
I find this to be one of the problems of LSD.
Regards
 
(Edit is not working, so excuse me for just posting again)

Ok for sartorius, I could guess from the name you probably have a proper scale to weight with a reading of 10µg ..? :)
 
Well, I might just have, but as you say that's not going to help me much if the active substance is absorbed within a small piece of paper...

I am making an assumption that the dosages stated are accurate. In the case of these 3 suppliers, I have a lot of evidence from other customers suggesting that their stated dosages are close to actual. But, of course, I have no way to verify this.

But this forms part of my dilemma. I really don't want to spend another day feeling underwhelmed by taking another (for me) low dose and wishing I had taken more. My reckless side says step it up to 300-400ug of A next time. My cautious side says stick to 200ug but try B or C in case A's was degraded or the dose was exaggerated.
 
Really the best solution is just starting on the low dose side with every new LSD batch you get, just take a step back titrating in order to account for variance in the difference between advertised and actual dosage on blotters.

Oh sorry I see you won't risk lowballing it anymore? Well I'm sure you understand the pro's and cons to that.
It may take an overdose / overwhelming dose to make a person see how that can be considerably worse than underdosing / being underwhelmed. You'd probably better try to calculate a dose to take you consider minimal not to get underwhelmed, but one that will also allow for some wiggle room not to go overboard. 300-400 ug sounds like a lot and a pretty big step up from 150-175. It's great but best to work up to that steadily. Not sure what limited amount of trips you plan to take in your life but it seems quite impatient to not wanna give it one or a few extra conservative goes, in the name of steadyness.
 
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Solipsis, you talk a lot of sense and the reason I posted here was because I am a naturally impatient person and sometimes need to hear common sense from someone else rather than listen to my own...
 
Solipsis, I believe that you've confused Sartorius and myself (the OP).

I'll be taking 175mcg most likely for my next trip.

@homme I have advertised 200mcg blotters, which are apparently evenly laid. I've had consistent trips with every blotter, which I usually cut into 100, 50, and 25mcg pieces. Of course I'm not taking exactly my intended dosage, but it's quite close.
 
It depends on the setting, and how experienced you are with both substances. It'd be an intense trip though regardless.

If it's your first candyflip that's a really high dosage in my opinion, but YMMV.
 
Zalo said:
Depends on the setting, and how experienced you are with both substances. It'd be an intense trip though regardless.

If it's your first candyflip that's a really high dosage in my opinion, but YMMV.
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In my house, i know it will be intensive and thats how i like it. actually my first time LSD, i've taken it once and it was too low dose. Although I have taken heroic dose of AL-LAD(~500ug) and it was VERY intensive but great experience. MDMA i've taken a few times. Done one hippyflip and it was great, most euphoric experience with any drugs so far. I was sweating of euphoria so much.. lol. I think it'll be ok if i take 200µg and in 3-4 hours if i feel it ill drop the MDMA? if its going too crazy at the time then i'll save the mdma for some other time. Would that be a good plan?
 
Unless you laid the blotter yourself you can't say what dose the acid is to 25mics. You'll be lucky if you're accurate to within 100mics. You've probably already taken 200mics and not even realised.
 
Zalo said:
Solipsis, I believe that you've confused Sartorius and myself (the OP).
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Oops very sorry about that, one sentence in my post can probably be considered struck then but hopefully people are helped by the rest, it appears so anyway.

175 ug is a nice dose, it should work out wonderfully. :)
 
Sorry if I caused the confusion by hijacking the thread with my own question! It was good advice for both of us IMO.
 
OK, and thanks for your clarification: "I am making an assumption that the dosages stated are accurate."

It's just: I find it very strange reading about such accurate LSD dosage so often. I can't stop wondering: "zomg! How would you know that? (I want to do too .. ;))".
And on the same time, other people start to chime in, with their won dosage numbers, which leaves me wondering even more..

Do you think it is valid to assume that the dosages you think you take, are in fact the dosages that you take?
I see: In a position where one is able to manufacture LSD, it will be trivial to make accurate statements about dosage.
But where LSD is made, is (I'd guess) probably not where it is laid on blotters.
And it is definitely not where it reaches the consumer.

Do you think it is valid to assume that the dosages you think you take, are in fact the dosages that you take?
In a sense that it is comparable to others, and thus fit to post on an online forum
Or do you feel like you're making your personal arbitrary scaling (that might of course work for you and your contacts and their material.)

I'd be interested in answers on this.
Regards
 
da fuq! why is neither edit nor quote working on this forum for me?
I press edit and my mousepointer changes to a watch and this is it. Nice edit.
 
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