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LSA - No euphoria?

angelbunny

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Does LSA have weaker effects if taken recently?

I had a day off to experiment so I decided to take some HBWS. I took 4 at around 10am. If nausea was going to kick in, I didn't want to barf a meal. I planned on eating lunch and skipping breakfast.

At 11am I fell asleep. After taking the seeds drowsiness kicked in. I didn't expect to fall asleep, but I did.

At 5pm I woke up. I had slept a full night and now most of the day. *grumbles* :|

10pm I decided to try again. I was def awake this time after sleeping so much. I didn't want to deal with nausea so I figured under the tongue would work. I've never taken anything by letting it sit under my tongue before so I probably didn't do it right. I took 14 seeds expecting there to be a much weaker effect from not swallowing. Also, by letting the seeds sit under my tongue I thought it would hit my blood stream directly so the effects would hit me within 20 minutes.

10:30pm After watching an ep of the simpsons and holding ground up seeds in my mouth nothing had happened. I figured that if nothing had happened I was doing it wrong and I should just swallow the seeds.

12:00pm Drowsy. I was fighting to stay awake.

12:30am The effects started. It had only been 2 hours and I thought the effects would take at least three to hit me.

3am Extremely tired but I can not sleep. Frustration kicks in as I lay in bed relaxed for at least an hour before finally sleeping.

Effects:
-My pupiles dilated.
-My whole body went num. Touching myself I could feel how smooth my skin really is. As if I was someone else touching it.
-My body weighed around 3x more than normal. My arms and legs felt heavy so I was content laying in my bed and listening to trance.
-When I got up to go get some food and drink I had a slightly hard time walking. I was a bit wobbly, but mostly num.
-Time flew by. I was content listening to music. Before I knew it an hour passed by. Normally I would get bored quicker.
-I heard sounds. Random pulses periodically.
-Sometimes (rarely) my body would feel the pulses especially if it came from the music.

I had no euphoria. No uplifted mood. Mentally I was quite normal. No enlightenment of any kind.

What gives? Was it because I took the seeds to close to each other? I was def tripping, but nothing of what I expected. I didn't see anything either. No closed eye visuals. However, I kept hearing random pulses or tones from time to time. It is hard to explain. I know people see things, but I've never heard of someone hearing things before. While I was tripping all I could think of for a while was, "Am I schizophrenic?"


I don't know if I'm going to try LSA again. The experience was not unpleasant but without the euphoria or the spiritualness to it, then it loses its purpose for me.

I guess I'm just odd? 8)
 
I've had a few experiences with LSA similar to yours and they both involved dosing 4-6 HBWR seeds, then topping it off in several hours with 10-12 more. Both times I dosed this way the effects seemed much weaker than usual. There was no euphoria at all, just an unpleasant body load for hours. I did however have positive results from taking 8-10 seeds at once which resulted in plenty of euphoria.

I think that maybe your first dose raised your tolerance enough to limit the effects of the larger dose you took the next day. I would suggest waiting a few days at least and then try a larger initial dose, but I'm certainly no LSA expert. LSA has some nice effects to it but for me personally the vasoconstriction is just too severe for it to be enjoyable.
 
Does LSA have weaker effects if taken recently?

More then likely. Psychedelics generally build up a tolerance much quicker then other drugs, but also dissipates faster. The fact that you took more much later the same day, it probably wouldn't of had the same effect if you didn't take any that morning. If you smoke weed it would really enhance the trip and bring out some euphoria/visuals. Not the mention it should help with nausea.
 
I won't recommend any of these in combination, but I've personally used them to good effect a few times before in combination with hwbr seeds: kava (especially the 84% kavalactone paste) really helped with the sort of cold, detached feeling, added some euphoria that seemed to be arising out of the synergy of the hbwr and kava. It did not help the drowsiness tho...a few other times I worked with hbwr and ephedra tea in combination, and that really added to the euphoria and counteracted the sleepiness. I've also read that adding 3 or so datura stramonium seeds to the experience makes it much more like an lsd experience, but I have yet to try this out myself. Adding the peppermint oil didn't seem to change anything in my experience. I tried it a handful of times without much other than fresh breath in a difference between the two...I am growing some fresh peppermint to try it again with home grown peppermint tea and hbwr seeds. Also, you might have seeds that are old, or just not the best. I've had seeds that were very weak and then seeds where 2 seeds was a strong experience.
 
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I totally agree about the synergy hbwr seeds have with kava kava. It really add's to the euphoria and I find it a great way to enhance the latter parts of the trip when your coming down. I also really enjoyed mixing it with kratom, again it add's to the euphoria without dampening the experience much like some other opiates would. Ive also read the same things about datura stramonium seeds making it more like LSD and am very interested in the combo. I always heard bad things about datura but this thread I read about Organic LSD on another forum has got me really intrigued about adding them and peppermint leaves to the mix. From what Ive gathered it's best to use fresh peppermint like you've mentioned, I'd like to grow some and try this mysterious concoction one day in the future.
 
I've gone worked with up to 6 datura stramonium seeds by themselves so far (starting with 1 and currently up to 6) as I prepare to try them in combination with hbwr. At this level it's nothing to be scared of in my experience. There's no delerium, or anything close with such a small dose. The most powerful sensation at this level was a slight feeling of euphoria and relaxation (which was the sleepy kind).
 
Thank you for your guy's comments. It has encouraged me to try the seeds again.

I'm thinking of trying it again friday or saturday night ... so 3 to 4 days from now. Is this to soon, or should I wait a week or two? I can't find any info about repeated dosages anywhere like I can with shrooms.


Does anyone have any recommendations of Vicodin and HBWS? It is all I have floating around and I'm trying to be as legal as possible around my boyfriend to wing him into light use, so pot is out of the question. That and most pot makes me sleepy. Since the seeds make me drowsy too I'd probably just fall asleep if I attempted it.

I've never heard of kava before. Maybe I should check it out?
 
LSA could scare him off of tripping-- maybe some good mescaline cacti since its legal to have the _cactus_, or some rc's? Or just some good ol' LSD.
 
Does anyone have any recommendations of Vicodin and HBWS?

If your worried about being too sedated and falling asleep, I don't think adding vicodin into the mix would help. I have never done it, but it might dull some of the psychedelic effects.
 
I'm almost positive it just depends on what seeds you have... some I have gotten are euphoric to the point of bliss where others are just not that fun or worth the nausea/vasoconstriction.
 
If your worried about being too sedated and falling asleep, I don't think adding vicodin into the mix would help. I have never done it, but it might dull some of the psychedelic effects.
vicodin doesn't make me drowsy and I mentioned it because some of the comments above suggested different opiets... so vicodin came to mind *shrugs*
 
I can't imagine liking LSA, although I suppose I'll have to give it a chance to prove me wrong one of these days -- being tired during a psychedelic experience never works for me at all. Although one time during a 2C-E trip that wasn't particularly enjoyable, I fell asleep and into a more euphoric and interesting limbo between waking / dream / trip consciousness...
 
I don't really get super tired from LSA, in fact most times I take it I end up staying up way later than I usually do. I think it effects everyone differently, I personally get somewhat stimulated once I start peaking. And i get a huge smile plastered across my face that stays all night. The first three hours can be a little rough mentally for me, and sometimes physically. LSA always forces me to confront issues in my subconscious. Which is a positive thing, it can just get uncomfortable at times but all good things come with a price.

As soon as I pass the aforementioned trials, the uneasiness is replaced with euphoria. This drug makes my pupils bigger than I have ever seen in my life and in high dose's (around 15 seeds) the effects lasted well into the next day for me. I've experienced some afterglow's that lasted at least a week long and had me feeling totally inspired by the beauty of life and our planet. HBWS seeds have given me some of the best trips Ive had in years and they really helped me deal with some trauma's in my personal life, that would have been much harder for me to handle without their guidance.
 
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