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LSA (Hawain Baby Woodrose Seeds) -- First Time -- Very Powerful

Horus

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Hawain Baby Woodrose Seeds

Recently got a 5g bag of these seeds after doing a lot of research into them first so I knew what I was getting myself into. Every single minute of the experience was a totally different experience in its own right and so is hard to put it all down and give it justice for what happened.

Anyway, onto what happened.

24-Apr-2003
The seeds were not prepared in any way before-hand. No stripping of seeds or soaking in water.
Initial come-up
19:14 - Lightly chewed 7 seeds one by one.
19:37 - A VERY light change. Almost unnoticable. Put it down to placebo.
19:5x - When talking to a mate realised I felt "different" and the rooms I was in felt new. Realised I was looking around the room with the curiosity of a baby.
20:00 - Things were now definately happening. Almost as if I had become a child in a strange world. the music that was playing began to envelop my head and I was getting incredible stereo effects without any effort to stand in postion with the speakers. The seeds definately couse you to laugh a lot. Everything seems to have a funny side to it. Objects, people. I was constantly grinning like a lunatic for a lot of the time I was talking to friends.
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The come-up continued beyond this but
there was a complete loss of time perception or need for structure in life at all. Almost felt like the minds own internal structure had broken down and all perception became a mix. There was definately a lot of confusion which on a couple of occasions caused some difficult parts of the trip(bad trip). The trip could definately not be described as either ALL good or ALL bad. It was a very transient state.

In the house I felt almost like human beings were a burden as I felt the need to teach them....."something". I went from periods of being scared of people to connecting with them almost as strongly as with MDMA. There was also a period of time when playing music alone in the dark of my room I felt I was on MDMA. The whole effect lasted probably 15 mins but like I say all moods are very changeable. I spent time outside on a derelict area near my house communicating with nature(I know it sounds odd!) taking pictures with a digital camera. I seemed physically capable and rarely forgot things but I never trusted my own ability on this as in this state anything could happen!
There were VERY temporary clearings of mind in which I felt almost completely "human/sober" but these quickly went.
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A quick glimmer into the peak of the trip
22:18 [I wrote this at the time of the experience so it won't make much sense but will give an idea of mind state]:
Explaining this in words is almost impossible. Semantics do not comprehend the enormity of this experience.
To become one with colours of the minds eye is intense. To see the true nature of the hand.
I see electricity in all I represent of the things. I'm jabbering like a lunatic. I apologise.

Let us begin:
Shapes........form........have special meaning like no other.

Must eat. Be back in a mo.

I realise a lot of thingas now about myself that I never knew before.

People I associate with nutmeg.

I hope what I fear you are is not real My mind is nowehere and everywhere at once. The room is moving more than I can comprehend in wordsd. I feel like the keyoboard is me. I'm Linked

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The bad parts of the trip included a feeling of rejection from nature because I was human and human beings I felt were a plague which caused me to feel ashamed and hurt. There was a lot of passing but intense paranoia and fear. The most intense feeling was that of feeling I had upset one of my friends which sent me into loops of rejection, fear, and loss. BUT friendship was also the ultimate guiding light in it all and so it always seemed to bring me round. It was after 10 hours(yes 10 hours!!) with me trying to sleep and still being affected with hallucinations and strange thought patterns that felt I was loosing touch with sanity, as if I'd never recover.
NOTE: I found humour always helped to bring me back out of a bad trip and my own mind often seemed to help by causing me to laugh. Its as if I was protected in a strange way from harming my mentality to much but was allowed to learn from the experience, which I did.

Sleep
It may be hard to sleep at the end but when you do try and rest as long as possible. I got up to early and regretted it. Felt like I'd been hit by a bus so had to go back to bed. Get at least 9-10hrs.

Nausea
The nausea was very strange. I had an iffy stomach before doing the seeds. Its hard to decide but I think the nausea - for me - was purely psychological. I only vomited three times. All of which caused by me forcing it with my fingers. I did it due to a mild sickness but definately not worthy of vomiting.

This is a VERY powerful drug, possibly THE most powerful drug I have had(I've done most). Although most people are ok on this stuff I can definately see how it could send some over the edge. Be careful. Peace
 
Re: Hawain Baby Woodrose Seeds

Horus said:
This is a VERY powerful drug, possibly THE most powerful drug I have had(I've done most).

I doubt you have done 'most' drugs. There are several hundred different phenethylamine and indolic psychedelics. Many have never even been made, much less eaten. And think of all the synthetic opiates! But that is all besides the point.

I just wanted to agree with you that the seeds are VERY powerful and many people underestimate their potency. I've had some of my most powerful psychedelic experiences EVER with these seeds. Nice report.
 
Intresting report.

Its always amusing reading back what you have written down while tripping balls. Although it never seems to make the same sense..

:)
 
whoa maybe I should try a few of those. are they like acid, do you get intense visuals, such as tracers, melting, breathing, etc
 
>are they like acid

No.

>do you get intense visuals, such as tracers, melting, breathing,
>etc

Not really. Some there but if you are looking for LSD-like visuals, you will be dissapointed.
 
HBWR

Yeah, i always have mixed trips as well, usually a dark period towards the come up(accompanied by nausea and vomitting), but once it is over, i usually have fairly happy and amazing experiences. I want to try to find methods of ingesting them without nausea(perhaps extracted into water and put into ginger tea??). I don't get many visuals, just color enhancement, but ohhh boy, so many mental landscapes, images, i could just sit in bed and watch it all flow for hours. I haven't done them in a while because I think i fear the nausea. I think I will try some other method of ingestion next time besides chewing them and swallowing them(after scraping off the outside, which i have heard doesn't help anyways).
 
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yucatanboy said:
I want to try to find methods of ingesting them without nausea

No such ways exist. Extracts reduce nausea, but also reduce positive entheogenic effects in my experience. Nausea is a part of the woodrose seed trip. Accept it, or use other psychedelics that do not make one sick.
 
well i'm a pretty experienced hbwr tripper, and can tell ya a lil of what i know. It can often times feel like a really mellow candyflip for the most part, when crossed with some kindbud or just some scagg, the trip can take an almost nother level.
Really your mind becomes susceptible to imagined hallucinations, basically you can create hallucinations in your mind and see them in front of your eyes depending on how good you are with imagination. It is most definetly an auditory trip, and a tactile one. During my last experience, i was body tripping so hard i thought i had wet my pants.
The childish curiousity is something i have felt on several trips and concur. Really i think the most important thing is to be in a comfortable enviroment, be relaxed, and be with people you can easily stand tripping. Oh and good music, definetly good music, no rap, sorry folks : ) at least not for me.
 
paxus said:
well i'm a pretty experienced hbwr tripper, and can tell ya a lil of what i know. It can often times feel like a really mellow candyflip for the most part, when crossed with some kindbud or just some scagg, the trip can take an almost nother level.
Really your mind becomes susceptible to imagined hallucinations, basically you can create hallucinations in your mind and see them in front of your eyes depending on how good you are with imagination. It is most definetly an auditory trip, and a tactile one. During my last experience, i was body tripping so hard i thought i had wet my pants.
The childish curiousity is something i have felt on several trips and concur. Really i think the most important thing is to be in a comfortable enviroment, be relaxed, and be with people you can easily stand tripping. Oh and good music, definetly good music, no rap, sorry folks : ) at least not for me.


ive tried for a while to explain the mg/hbwr trip im simple terms, and this really hits it perfectly. the peak actually does feel sort of like lsd+mdma physically at times, with music pounding through your body and encircling you in a similar way, vivid almost nod-like hallucinations when laying down and closing your eyes, and a very fluctuating euphoria. the calmness has always helped me to go extremely deep. i still dont find it to be a recreational trip at all, because my trips have all been of a very serious nature, no goofing around or laughing. btw infected mushroom for me fits any trip perfectly.
 
yeah, its really an introspective kind of trip, while it can be fun with friends, its better with maybe like one friend or two, but who must be at the same brainstate to achieve a unified mindset. If done right, you can finish eachothers' sentences and understand anything that so much as parses their lips.
It's only successfully happened maybe one time, but i have the feeling that it will happen again. I would'nt say that hbwr is the strongest drug i've ever taken, but the strongest introspective trip that i've ever had, they can be quite memorable.
 
Just a tip:
Eat lots of fresh ginger before you ingest the seeds for reduced nausia.I've found that by doing this, it doesn't eleviate all discomfort, but it allows me to ingest twenty + seeds without too much sickness.
 
Great report!!!

I have tried the seeds myself this weekend and was very disappointed. maybe it was the way I took them. I had been told by friends, who had taken them that they vere very potent so I was slightly apprehensive so me and a friend atarted out with just a couple(2) cause we vere biking through the woods. About 2 hrs we hadn't felt anything yet so we ate another 3 and waited again. We vere at a beach party close the the forest so the setting was perfect, but we still felt no effect form the seeds. We the ate another 3, and waited again. through out the whole period we also smoked some joints, and maybe that was why, but we never felt anything.
Did we do it wrong? Should we eat them all at once? Should we not smoke weed?........

Tell me how!!!??? :(
 
can depend on the weight of the person taking, and what experiences you've had with different substances. i'd say give it a second shot with 5 or so, keep them under your tongue for about 20 mins, you won't have to taste em that long, then chew swallow and drink some water. a very mellow enviroment is vital to a good trip for the most part. weed will definetly help when the nausea hits, if it hits at all. good luck. -p@xus
 
psybuddha said:
Great report!!!

I have tried the seeds myself this weekend and was very disappointed. maybe it was the way I took them. I had been told by friends, who had taken them that they vere very potent so I was slightly apprehensive so me and a friend atarted out with just a couple(2) cause we vere biking through the woods. About 2 hrs we hadn't felt anything yet so we ate another 3 and waited again. We vere at a beach party close the the forest so the setting was perfect, but we still felt no effect form the seeds. We the ate another 3, and waited again. through out the whole period we also smoked some joints, and maybe that was why, but we never felt anything.
Did we do it wrong? Should we eat them all at once? Should we not smoke weed?........

Tell me how!!!??? :(

It ain't rocket science. You just eat the seeds. It's best to eat them all at once, but still if you ate a total of 8, and felt nothing...then I question their authenticity. With a potent batch, one can get a +2 intensity trip from as few as 4 seeds. There are a lot of look-a-likes that circulate.

Do a search in psychedelics for 'baby woodrose seed ID page' and you will see what I mean. Baby woodrose seed's potency is unmatchable and if you are eating 8 of them and feeling nothing, then they can't be the real thing. Or they are VERY weak.
 
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morninggloryseed said:
I just wanted to agree with you that the seeds are VERY powerful and many people underestimate their potency. I've had some of my most powerful psychedelic experiences EVER with these seeds. Nice report.

i've used them twice i took them the same way as described in this post and got nothing apart from some terrible pain in my stomach and feeling very ill.

How many times have you used them before?....:(
 
I've used baby woodrose and morning glory seeds at least 50 times in my life. Probably more. It was the only psychedelic I had access to for many years.
 
yeah i have to agree, they're easy to underestimate and are very potent in a deceptive way. morningloryseed: have you had any luck sublingnally (sic) taking the seeds? i'm trying that the next time i get a batch, wanted to see if you had any luck with it.
 
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