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lower tolerance to DXM
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atara
Bluelighter
At a football game? What the hell? The only way to properly use DXM is while listening to Sigur Ros.
Also diphenhydramine and other anticholinergics have been demonstrated to block NMDA antagonist neurotoxicity in rats (though the existence of NMDA antagonist neurotoxicity in primates is still in dispute). A little dimenhydrinate will calm the nausea, potentiate the effects, and could prevent any possible neurotoxicity, so I'm going to call it a 'go'.
Compared to many things here, DXM is candy.
They're the same thing, both work. Dramamine has chlorotheophylline in it so it'll keep you from falling asleep whereas benadryl can just knock you out.
Also diphenhydramine and other anticholinergics have been demonstrated to block NMDA antagonist neurotoxicity in rats (though the existence of NMDA antagonist neurotoxicity in primates is still in dispute). A little dimenhydrinate will calm the nausea, potentiate the effects, and could prevent any possible neurotoxicity, so I'm going to call it a 'go'.
Compared to many things here, DXM is candy.
mindtools
Bluelighter
^I hope you were joking with this only properly use. I had great trip with Pink Floyd too.
Besides it's great to take lower amount (like 225-300mg) and spend time with friends or watch movie (like Naked Lunch
).
Or take huge amount (like 900+ mg) and not hear nor see anything
About toxicity: I can't talk on DXM alone, but in eg. Poland the pills have huge amount of unwanted, non-psychoactive chemicals. You can really mess your diggestive system with them.
Besides it's great to take lower amount (like 225-300mg) and spend time with friends or watch movie (like Naked Lunch
).Or take huge amount (like 900+ mg) and not hear nor see anything
About toxicity: I can't talk on DXM alone, but in eg. Poland the pills have huge amount of unwanted, non-psychoactive chemicals. You can really mess your diggestive system with them.
Listening
Bluelighter
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Here being the BL? Maybe: I'll give you that it's safer than heroin. But in the context of PD, DXM does indeed seem to be some dangerous shit for a lot of people. It has a double wammy of high abuse potential as well as psychological (and maybe also physiological) damage.
THANKS for this good advice what will be the feeling (euphoria??, speed ? psychedelic ? )
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Depressicaa
Bluelighter
Stay away from mixing Tramadol. Pure DXM work at the 60mg dosage for me, but you have to do your own conversions in terms of body weight.
OK thanks, I'm 70kg = 155 pounds what do you suggest ? for sure I will not use tramadol
mindtools
Bluelighter
I've never done pure DXM (always DXM HBr), but that's way to much for the first time. First, you should check if you tolerate DXM/aren't allergic to it. Let's say 30-60mg.
Than for the first time it's advised to take about 300mg DXM HBr or even less.
No. Don't mix it with opioids like codeine, for the risk of respiratory depression, nor with tramadol, because it may induce serotonine syndrome.
It's advised to read some FAQ before using.
Also put on Pink Floyd from earlier albums
Than for the first time it's advised to take about 300mg DXM HBr or even less.
No. Don't mix it with opioids like codeine, for the risk of respiratory depression, nor with tramadol, because it may induce serotonine syndrome.
It's advised to read some FAQ before using.
Also put on Pink Floyd from earlier albums
I've never done pure DXM (always DXM HBr), but that's way to much for the first time. First, you should check if you tolerate DXM/aren't allergic to it. Let's say 30-60mg.
Than for the first time it's advised to take about 300mg DXM HBr or even less.
No. Don't mix it with opioids like codeine, for the risk of respiratory depression, nor with tramadol, because it may induce serotonine syndrome.
It's advised to read some FAQ before using.
Also put on Pink Floyd from earlier albums
Yeah good advice and I'm fan of 70's psychedelic / progressive rock music
(Old pink floyd, King Crimson, Old Yes... fantastic !!!)
pharmakos
Bluelighter
waaaayyy off topic... but if you like those bands then listen to the first 4 Camel albums
girlygrrl
Bluelighter
I haven't really noticed a tolerance issue. Although I don't do trips over 450mg, and generally do about 350mg (or 500-600 if polystirex)
I find that the P2/P3 threshold is most enjoyable and a good +++...P3 and P4 aren't that enjoyable to me. IME it's better to do some nitrous or K than more dex if you want a deeper trip.
dex+salvia and dex+2ce are both very interesting (less is more on the psychs)
As for tolerance it seemed my tolerance went down. I don't know if it is the holiday stress or what, but I generally do dex about twice a month. My trip yesterday was quite strong and enjoyable for only 350mg. It could be that I've been taking a lot of 5-htp...so you may want to try that if you're experiencing tolerance issues.
I find that the P2/P3 threshold is most enjoyable and a good +++...P3 and P4 aren't that enjoyable to me. IME it's better to do some nitrous or K than more dex if you want a deeper trip.
dex+salvia and dex+2ce are both very interesting (less is more on the psychs)
As for tolerance it seemed my tolerance went down. I don't know if it is the holiday stress or what, but I generally do dex about twice a month. My trip yesterday was quite strong and enjoyable for only 350mg. It could be that I've been taking a lot of 5-htp...so you may want to try that if you're experiencing tolerance issues.
pharmakos
Bluelighter
how often does everyone dose? i didn't notice major tolerance issues until i started using multiple times a week. even with months off the magic hasn't come back, but tolerance has gone down somewhat.
girlygrrl
Bluelighter
DXM hasn't ever lost its magic for me and I have gone through a few periods of heavy usage. But like I said before I don't like P3 and P4 much (too strobe-lighty and I can't remember the trip very well) so I typically aim for the P2/P3 threshold. What I did notice though is that it seemed to really increase my tolerance for K so when I've done K it seems way less potent than it used to.
missimoo
Bluelighter
ive also noticed dxm has stopped working. i have been on quitiapine for years, but it doesnt usually block DXMs effects if i miss my pill, but lately after a break, even high doses of dxm seem to do nothing. prob had a 6month break. not taken dxm much, maybe 20times ever over a year. no more then 150mg. usually 500mg.
sometimes 100mg will blow my head off, others a gram will do nothing. i get the powder form from a good supply. i know its DXm....
sometimes 100mg will blow my head off, others a gram will do nothing. i get the powder form from a good supply. i know its DXm....
girlygrrl
Bluelighter
I switched to HCL powder and it is a lot more potent than HBR ever was. You'd think that syrup containing 350mg of HBR would be equivalent of a trip to 350mg HCL powder but it is stronger. I think 250mg of HCL is about equivalent to 350mg of HBR. Idk how a gram could do nothing, that would put me in P4 for sure.