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Low doses of 25I-NBOME vs high doses

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I've been taking 800ug at a time, but what would happen if i take double. 1600ug. will the effects be enhanced, or will the effects just last longer?
 
From what i hear the effects will be MUCH stronger, you shouldnt just double it, maybe go up to 1.2 first
 
i used to take 3mg regularly, it's a very visually intense trip, the head space isn't increased as much as the visual activity IMO. You also run into side effects like jaw clenching and muscle tension but maybe that's just me. Anything under 2mg, just had me itching for more.
 
1.6 should be several times stronger due to the steep dose response curve. Try 1 the 1.2 but I don't advocate going right to 1.6 unless you have tolerance or a weak product.
 
Do NOT double your dose! It amazes me that with all the deaths and overdoses with these compounds people still choose to be reckless. These substances have a STEEP dose-response curve and should be treated with the utmost respect. Titrate your dose up slowly in 200 ug increments, allowing enough time for tolerance to fully dissipate, until you find a comfortable level. Thank you for being responsible and asking before you went ahead and just doubled your dose.
 
I insufflated 3 MG's my first time doing 25-i. The experience was the most visual experience of my life, much more so than lower doses. However, I wouldn't recommend dosing that high until you have more experience with 25-i. I ignorantly jumped in head first with very little prior research of the chemical.
 
25-i actually sounds like a nice chemical, since i like psyches that are more visual with out the mind fuck. Is 25-i really stimulating on the body, or is it easy to stay relaxed on. I am talking about low doses btw, nothing crazy.
 
It's pretty stimulating, but I find the extra energy pretty enjoyable... it's nothing uncomfortable. I really enjoy focusing on and "creating" visuals. The mindset while under the influence of 25i seems to be almost.... sober-like. I can think clearly, but everything is morphing and waving and sparkling. I DID have one mindfuck experience, though... thanks to cannabis and perceived strange energies. On higher doses I can see auras and can direct energy with mental focus. Careful though, things can get weird when playing with the metaphysical.
 
For me .500 mg's was well elts just say very mellow. I felt elevated, Happy but it only lasted a sum total of 4 hours. Took it at 8 pm and was asleep by 12 midnight. I made the mistake of jumping ahead to 1mg and I was shocked at the difference. The mind is still there but visually it is pretty stunning

sure the durration was twice as long but the expereience was 4 to 5 times the level of the first. Since then I have never felt the need to take more theen 1mg as an inititial dose. Jumping from .800mg to 1.6mg is asking for trouble.


Remember when looking at this compare it to it's base molecule, Shulgin was pretty clear the difference between 25mg and 50mg of any Pheny is VAST. Titrate up slowly responsibly.

I find this to be a very adult high, heavy pull towards Erotic thoughts, sex is fantastic, simmilar to a mix of LSD and MDMA
I could not imagine doing 2mg's of this stuff as an initial dose. I fear the intensity of it all may take away from my fun level.... esspecially when I always plan on doing this sort of thing with my wife.
 
Do you notice your heart beating in your chest, or only when you look for it.
How are the visuals, do things morph kind of like on shrooms or even more intense? Not that i'd know where to get this chemical, it just sounds nice. For me visuals never really get too intense, it's mind fuck that bothers me. I start thinking of weird things , getting confused and going into some dark thoughts . That's what i didn't like about shrooms the mind fuck, the visuals were all fun and games.
 
I am really not the best person to compare and contrast as it has been a very long time since I have done shrooms. I am not sure if it is simply because I am older and wiser, .500 mg had nothing but positive thoughts energy, talkative vibe. There was no mind fuck at all.

1mg, there was a breif fear that I had taken too much, or that the experience was going to be to intense for my wife. Those thoughts only lasted oh say 10 to 15 minutes, once she was through the intensity of the come up she was A OK. For her it hit her hard, not a body load so much as it just came on fast, like right after she spit out her sublingual dose she started to feel something. She felt like she was rolling in like 5 minutes.

It is kinda like LSD mixed with MDMA, in that at 1mg it is comparable to for me 3 or 4 hits of good LSD (Visullay) and 2 hits of good MDMA, sexual freedom, hedonistic erotic mind set. Lots of flowing energy, that builds into a kind of constant roll....

After her first time she said it was far better then any E trip she ever had. She had tried a hit or two of LSD in her days and they never gave her visuals..... 25I did. She was a candy raver in the late 90's she found E and loved it for years.
 
So my NBOMEs are in the mail. Do you think it's a good idea with my slightly fragile mental state? And I've never done any psychedelics (apart from MXE which was a disaster - unless you count becoming more intimate with the Devil a good thing).
 
Ninae said:
So my NBOMEs are in the mail. Do you think it's a good idea with my slightly fragile mental state? And I've never done any psychedelics
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What's the point of asking if it's a good idea after you've already ordered them? If you have a fragile mental state you should be cautious using psyches. Make sure you take them on a good day and in a place you feel comfortable, have a sober tripper with you and have some benzo's on hand
 
imo don't get benzos, depends what you mean on fragile mental states though. If you tend to get uncomfortable or panic attacks, have the benzos, but if you're depressed or alike - I'd rather ignore the benzos and trip with someone who you fully trust, this should really help you. Otherwise you'll just panic and kill the possibly very profound trip with benzos and it'll teach you nothing
 
Yea, I don't plan to risk it without benzos on hand, and plan to do a + mild dose. I'd love to do it out in nature by the sea, but worried I'll drown or something. Just wondering how different it is from MXE which was shit.
 
Even though the headspace on 25i can be quite forgiving, you should still be careful. Also, if you're anything like me, do NOT smoke weed while tripping, as it causes me to think a but too far outside the box... actually there is no box when I smoke bud on psychedelics ( or is there a box? was there EVER a box????? WTF IS A BOX??!! GAAAAHH!! )
 
I have 48 hits of 1000ug 25i blotter on some pretty sexy artwork. I have had it a while, still haven't tried it. I gave hits to my housemates who just couldn't wait for me and had to trip, and being a little bit more gungho due to less experience they really tripped quite hard as i expected. He had a 'bad trip' and was looping uncomfortable social scenarios, while she was indian style on the bed with a huge smile for hours, later equating it to being on a lazy river in a dr. Seuss storybook.

I think i'll have a pretty fun time with it, assuming it is much better than the 25c i've had. I might need more than 1mg but I'm just going to go ahead to stick to the 1mg unit for my first trial.

Amazing, how often do you take 800ug doses?
 
So I'm another one to guess u should take it easy and step up to 1.2 mg for now. If that doesn't satisfy you but there are no ill side-effects you think you couldn't handle in a bit stronger dispension, just step up to 1.6 mg the next trip. I feel it's a good general rule of thumb with psychs, not to increase any previous dose by more than a half at a time, or if nothing else your trip may surprise you too much & spiral out of control.
 
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