Low dose steroid?

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DylanG204

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what would be a good steroid for enhancing workouts?
i dont want too go full out, just take very small doses too enhance results a little bit ?
is this possible?
 
DylanG204 said:
why not??
why do you need full doses too notice an effect?
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One doesn't need "full doses", one needs a full cycle. That's the way the human body and hormonal system works. Stable blood levels. All you'll do by taking random doses is throw your HPTA off balance and shut your testosterone down. I know this is a fleeting concept you can't take one dose and immediately notice results like you do with oxycontin.

The only thing you need to enhance your results is a gallon of milk a day and a good routine. Since you're probably doing neither of these things, you should go back to the drawing board and evaluate your diet and lifestyle before doing something you may soon regret.
 
i've heard somewhere that stanozolol lowers SHBG at lower doses (5 mg / day). so it can "release" natural testosterone, but then again, why not just go with artificial testosterone in the first place???
 
Lopez said:
i've heard somewhere that stanozolol lowers SHBG at lower doses (5 mg / day). so it can "release" natural testosterone, but then again, why not just go with artificial testosterone in the first place???
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Because people are idiots. The natural test will be unbound and promptly replaced with the weaker hormone.
 
Voxide said:
One doesn't need "full doses", one needs a full cycle. That's the way the human body and hormonal system works. Stable blood levels. All you'll do by taking random doses is throw your HPTA off balance and shut your testosterone down. I know this is a fleeting concept you can't take one dose and immediately notice results like you do with oxycontin.

The only thing you need to enhance your results is a gallon of milk a day and a good routine. Since you're probably doing neither of these things, you should go back to the drawing board and evaluate your diet and lifestyle before doing something you may soon regret.
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If you were a woman I would want to have sex with you because of the posts you make.
 
Lopez said:
i've heard somewhere that stanozolol lowers SHBG at lower doses (5 mg / day). so it can "release" natural testosterone, but then again, why not just go with artificial testosterone in the first place???
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Thats why low dose Winstrol or even Proviron is added to a cycle for their synergistic effects of lowering SHBG therefore freeing up more plasma Testosterone, plus by their nature they are suppressive of Estrogen....
 
The effects of Winstrol or Proviron on SHBG don't really make a difference in free testosterone. That's probably because free testosterone is metabolized more quickly. They are also useless as anti-estrogens. If you want more free testosterone, you have to raise your total T by injecting more of it. If you want to lower your estrogen, use an AI.

Proviron is an androgen without any anabolic effects and therefore only useful as a libido enhancer ON CYLCE (Proviron is suppressive just like any other androgen, so off cycle use will shut you down). Winstrol is only useful for contest prep. It's a very weak anabolic that really only drys you out (especially your joints).
 
DylanG204 said:
what would be a good steroid for enhancing workouts?
i dont want too go full out, just take very small doses too enhance results a little bit ?
is this possible?
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If you want to reduce side effects and shutdown, it's better to run a short cycle at a reasonable dosage than to run a long underdosed cycle. For example you could do 8 weeks of Test E at 500mg/week (you still need an AI and PCT!).
 
Don't run test for 8 weeks. Run minimum 10, preferably 12. 8 isn't enough time to see decent results.
Try dieting properly for a start, protein powders and creatine are also a good place to start if you havnt already.
Running steroids at a low dose is pretty pointless imo.
 
BlueCrest said:
The effects of Winstrol or Proviron on SHBG don't really make a difference in free testosterone. That's probably because free testosterone is metabolized more quickly. They are also useless as anti-estrogens. If you want more free testosterone, you have to raise your total T by injecting more of it. If you want to lower your estrogen, use an AI.

Proviron is an androgen without any anabolic effects and therefore only useful as a libido enhancer ON CYLCE (Proviron is suppressive just like any other androgen, so off cycle use will shut you down). Winstrol is only useful for contest prep. It's a very weak anabolic that really only drys you out (especially your joints).
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It is my understanding DHT derivatives like Masteron, Winstrol, Proviron bind well to SHBG, thus they can free up more testosterone in blood plasma which is then biologically active and able to enter a cell and activate its receptor.....

All are excellent when added to a cycle for their synergistic effects of lowering SHBG and as a mild anti-E by binding to the aromatise enzyme...
 
Genetic Freak said:
Thats why low dose Winstrol or even Proviron is added to a cycle for their synergistic effects of lowering SHBG therefore freeing up more plasma Testosterone, plus by their nature they are suppressive of Estrogen....
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Fuck Winstrol. People should use either Proviron, Masteron or even Epistane.
 
-Guido- said:
Fuck Winstrol. People should use either Proviron, Masteron or even Epistane.
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I Think Winstrol is a bit like most compounds Guido... Person & dose dependant..!!

Used at 20-30mg/day with a base of Test' plus Boldernone I've used it for years & never had any issues....
It can be great as part of a pre-contest cut, I think the trick is to not let the dose get too high...

But I know what you mean, if its not your thing it can be quite harsh on some people....
 
Genetic Freak said:
I Think Winstrol is a bit like most compounds Guido... Person & dose dependant..!!

Used at 20-30mg/day with a base of Test' plus Boldernone I've used it for years & never had any issues....
It can be great as part of a pre-contest cut, I think the trick is to not let the dose get too high...

But I know what you mean, if its not your thing it can be quite harsh on some people....
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I was fucking dying at work and lifting at home. The pain in my hands, in the joints was fucking dull and terrible. If I opened and closed my hand it sounded like someone eating rice krispies. I was only running 25mg a day.

You are right about steroids being dose and person dependent. Maybe I could get away using it with NPP given the joint lubricating effects or maybe I will have sparks flying from my joints again.

The weird thing is that earlier in the year I was running Prostanazol which is Stanazol (Winstrol) with the methyl group removed and an ether group added at somewhere between 50mg and 100mg and suffered no ill joint effects but enjoyed a nice drying out effect of the body.
 
I recommend a slight amount of Deca (100mg/week) to counter-act the joint dryness while still reaping the benefits of hardening from the Stanozolol.
 
I actually like the idea of the Deca. The NPP would need to be injected everyday, but the Deca would be a once a week thing. Good thinking.
 
Genetic Freak said:
It is my understanding DHT derivatives like Masteron, Winstrol, Proviron bind well to SHBG, thus they can free up more testosterone in blood plasma which is then biologically active and able to enter a cell and activate its receptor.....
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More free testosterone also means quicker metabolization. It's true that SHBG inactivates testosterone, but it also protects it from metabolization. So even if a steroid did free up more testosterone (I'm not sure if this has actually been proven), the eleveation of free testosterone probably wouldn't last for more than a few days.

Genetic Freak said:
All are excellent when added to a cycle for their synergistic effects of lowering SHBG and as a mild anti-E by binding to the aromatise enzyme...
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Why would anyone rely on DHT derivatives (that may or may not be weak AIs) if strong, scientifically proven AIs are readily availabe for estrogen control?
 
BlueCrest said:
Why would anyone rely on DHT derivatives (that may or may not be weak AIs) if strong, scientifically proven AIs are readily availabe for estrogen control?
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DHT derivatives such as Masteron and Proviron are very androgenic and have been used in place of AI's for long term estrogen control. AI's used long term can really fuck up your cholesterol and cause a host of other nasty side effects ranging from skin problems to sexual problems.
 
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