Opioids Low dose opioids and Testosterone

[ErgicMergic]

Hello BL,
I take about 75mg tramadol or 3.0-3.5g super-grade Kratom daily, and stopping has some pretty nasty mental w/d symptoms, like extreme fatigue, lethargy, and amotivation, in a worse way than regular opioids.

I try not to take opioids on days I work out, since mu-opioid agonists affect testosterone, but how much?? I feel like crap today, since I worked out, and didn't dose, and I need to be good to go on a Friday night. Can I take a tiny dose (1.0g of Kratom) without affecting my muscle gains too much?

Example: Does 20mg hydrocodone lower your testosterone twice as much as 10mg? Thanks!

 

[suessmayr]

I think that the effects of opioids on testosterone manifest more broadly, over longer periods of time. I'm pretty sure that opioid dependent people have been proven to have lower testosterone levels, lower/poorer sperm counts, etc. I also found, when I got clean, that my body changed in multiple ways consistent with an increase in testosterone.

 

[dcraver877]

yea i'm on a testosterone stimulator (clomid) after suffering paws a while. works fuckin great.