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Low Dose Mescaline coupled with alcohol?

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C15H21NO2

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Hello, bluelight, SWIM grew his own San Pedro Cacti from seed and recently done alot of extracting with 69ron's d-limonene tek. SWIM has 16 grams of pure white after cleaning with MEK.

SWIM has had many religious experiences with mescaline, both synthetic ( self made from 1,2,3-trimethoxybenzene, shulgin method) and basically in all forms of cactus.

SWIM is at a point in his life now where taking a true mescaline trip is impossible. SWIM is wondering what taking low doses of mescaline coupled with alcohol would be like, and while SWIM is an accomplished chemist he knows anothing about the biology and biochemistrys and wonders if this is at all a dangerous combination.

Thank you


Edit: please no posts about, respect mescaline, or do not tarnish the perfect buzz with something dirty like alcohol, i do respect mescaline, it is the perfect drug, but hey, when a 12 hour buzz isnt feasible you have to make due
 
C15H21NO2 said:
Edit: please no posts about, respect mescaline, or do not tarnish the perfect buzz with something dirty like alcohol, i do respect mescaline, it is the perfect drug, but hey, when a 12 hour buzz isnt feasible you have to make due
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I doubt a low dose would decrease the duration that much. If that is your primary worry, I suggest doing another psychedelic, maybe mushrooms or a 2Cx.
 
I dont think either of you answered the question, first post, fine ill drop the swim crap, no need to be so hostile, blue light is usually a friendly place. second post, what i am asking is what would a low dose of mescaline be like coupled with alcohol, im not really sure if what you said corresponds with what i asked.


Most of my drunks last more than 12 hours, im just in a position in my life now, completing grad work, with living with some friends who arent my true friends, and they aren't into the drug scene, i was just asking for some insight on whether or not i could dose low on the mescaline and drink a bit and noone would know i was on anything else but i could still enjoy myself.
 
IMO, combining alcohol with psychedelics is appropriate if you anticipate anxiety. Otherwise, alcohol will lessen the intensity of the psychedelic experience rather than enhance it.
 
if you actually want to 'enjoy' yourself on mescaline, i don't see how you could combine it with alcohol around other people who will be drinking. obviously if your 'friends' are drunk it will be difficult for them to discern your inebriation, but that doesn't sound like a great trip to me.

if you don't want to be around these people tripping, why not just go somewhere? take a walk or hike! plenty of places outdoors you can be 'alone' in public, especially during the daytime.
 
I like to have a few drinks towards the tail end of my mescaline trips. It helps to take the edge off when its time to come down. I never drink before or during my trips though until I start to feel like Im headed back to baseline while the physical stimulation is still running strong
 
i have done the low dose mescaline thing while trying to figure out how to eat cactus right. in my opinion its not worth it. for me, low doses just ended up giving me the "coming up" effects, which are not all that great. i always felt kinda anxious and nauseous wile coming up , and it sucks to have that without a trip.
 
What kind of "low dose" are you talking about? I've combined the two plenty of times, but at best it takes the edge off the tension/anxiety and at worst it dulls the trip. Consider waiting until the time is right, and having a serious trip instead. I've never been a fan of threshold experiences.
 
If you have 16g of mescaline acetate then you have more than enough to do a couple low-dose / threshold experiments. Try a 50mg dosage and titrate the dose up next time.

Since you have the pure alkaloid the experience will be very different than someone who eats a threshold quantity of the full cactus itself!

You should try looking at "theshroomery" in their ethnobotanical garden sub-forum, I'm sure the question has been answered there.
 
He's from the Nexus, he's been trained to us SWIM

i personally am VERY impressed that you grew your cactus from seed, you have the patience, the knowledge and you put in the work!

YOU DESERVE THIS EXPERIENCE!

The cactus will reward you I assure you! Enjoy!

You should respect mescaline and the cactus and it seems to me you do!

Since you have done mescaline many times without alcohol, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't give it a try... (if you have never done it I'd tell you NOT to mix it) the interaction is not dangerous i know many people who have done cactus/mescaline + alcohol.
 
Whats with the no swim thing, do we have to self incriminate here by law or am I allowed to tell what a garden gnome told me in a dream?

Anyway, while alcohol takes away from the experience somewhat, a garden gnome told me he enjoys low dose mescaline combined with alcohol, however he does not start drinking until the trip is starting to peak. He said alcohol takes the edge off, making the trip more relaxed and social, more MDMA like, less profound.

No difference in duration, said the gnome.

Last time the gnome did this he felt like he could just about handle being out in public in a nightclub. His only complaint was a slightly sore stomach the next day.
 
You'll get flamed pretty much every time you use SWIM. You can talk about yourself as a fictional character if you must, but most people will look down at you for it.

Sounds about like my experiences. What dose does your gnome consider low? (Sorry, but I just about cracked up trying to type that sentence)
 
MescalitoBandito said:
What dose does your gnome consider low? (Sorry, but I just about cracked up trying to type that sentence)
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No experience with pure alkaloid, but approx 4 - 6" of a fat pedro log.

He has also had good results with dropping the reduced tar extract wrapped in cig papers throughout his drinking session, however this once resulted in him getting his head kicked in when he opened his mouth at the wrong time. He didn,t really mean too, his thoughts just jumped out allowed, something to be wary of as others have also reported the alcohol / mescaline combo resulting in them being involved in a violent situation. Probably best enjoyed at home or at good friends place rather than hitting the town.
 
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