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Low Dose 2C-P substitute for adderall

Usirius1

Usirius1

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So, after doing about 12.5mg of 2C-P and being unable to sleep the night of my trip, I went to work the next day to my office job, and I more than quadrupled my productivity. My boss told me I need to do more of whatever I did last night. That got me thinking about trying a MUCH lower dose for just every day productivity enhancement. Kind of like Adderall. So I tried what was between 3-4mg. I found that there were absolutely no visual distortions. There was slight time dilation, but there was a very nice stimulation effect, along with some Euphoria. Felt very much like a medium to low dose adderall. After work, it wore off slowly, and I went to sleep. Felt perfectly fine the next morning.

So what do you guys think of this? Anyone else try using 2C-P or any other 2C in this manner? What sort of negative long term effects do you think could result from doing this on a daily basis?
 
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What sort of negative long term effects do you think could result from doing this on a daily basis?
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1) Rapid loss of efficacy as tolerance skyrockets
2) Heart valve enlargement due to 5HT2b agonism
 
The 5HT2B issue is a mystery because we don't know the binding affinities of 2C-P.

Doing it once a week shouldn't be an issue. You could try the NBOMes class for the same purpose as they don't agonize 5HT2B significantly but are reported to be similarly speedy to 2C-P.
 
You specifically said "daily basis" - many psychs are agonists to some degree for the 5HT2b receptor. Google it - I'm no expert. Tripping once in a while, even or twice a week, is different than long-term daily use.
 
3mg 2C-P Would probably send me on a trip! 4mg 2C-E sure does. Rememer that even though you may be pleasantly stimulated, that it can just as easily be dysphoric. Its a psychedelic, even at that dose.
 
I find that at 3mg, there is no visual, audio, or time distortion. I feel stimulated but in a very different way than with most CNS stimulants. Instead of having a rush of energy, I feel like I have a reservoir of every that I can tap into. My heart rate is also staying at about 80bpm as well.
 
2c-e, a related drug, has high affinity for 5-HT2B.

That said 2c-p is used at rather low doses usually.

Lots of people seem to like the alkyl-2c's (esp. 2c-d and some 2ce derivatives) as nootropics, I see no reason aside from potency/duration that 2cp couldn't be used too.
 
Yeah. I am just having trouble finding articles linking 5HT2b agonists to heart valve enlargement. I'm not saying your wrong. I just would like to read more about this.
 
taking psych's everyday would be bad for your brain. think syd barrett. They are meant to be takin with time in-between
 
I can't speak to substitution, but I will say I've gotten a hell of a lot more euphoria out of Adderall by vaporizing/plugging/IMimg 2 or 3 mg of 2C-P with it.
My post about it from the B&D 2C-P thread:
Has anyone else tried sub-psychedelic 2C-P in combination with amphetamine? I'm on 20 mg mixed amphetamine salts (orally with antacids to increase absorption) and ~3 mg plugged (for me a plus 1 - 1.5ish dose of 2C-P). It's very much not a trip but it's still something special - like amphetamine but with a hell of a lot more verve. I'm getting little skin chills I normally wouldn't get at this dose of amphetamine and my thoughts have a lot more enthusiasm. It's like the echos of a much more intense stimulated rolling experience. Everything is sort of subtly crackling with pre-orgasm sensitivity. I feel like I could function and interact in an entirely sober way if I needed to and just be digging it in the background. However, that's not something I have to do today so I imagine I won't be able to resist increasing the dose of each to flesh the thing out (I think 2 mg more 2C-P in another hour and 10 - 20 mg more amphetamine could up the amplitude without tipping it over into psychedelia proper). In any case it seems like a cheap way to get more out of a day of Adderall.
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There's definitely synergy between low dose 2C-E/P and amphetamines, so I'm not surprised you're getting functional effects from low dose 2C-P by itself. Combining amps with 2C-E is much trippier in my limited experience -- not really functional in an analytical way, but I could see it working for creative tasks. The 2C-P/amp combo is that way, too, but more euphoric and stimulating than with 2C-E. Again, these are all with sub psychedelic to low plus 1 doses.

I liked low dose 2C-P/2-FA even better than 2C-P/Adderall.
 
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Bear in mind psychedelics have negative effects on Memory, attention and problem solving as well as a lowered threshold to psychosis (i.e. more delusional and impressionable). They do however increase learning capacity. You may feel more productive but over time your attention span and short term memory may suffer.

Have you tried Ritalin (Methylphenidate)? It massively increases my focus and physical side effects diminish with regular use. It also has none of the long term issues of amphetamines, doesn't build tolerance very fast and actually improves mental functioning over time.
 
Thanks for all your response. I've decided not to try using this on a daily basis. Partially due to the fact that it's been added to the US's controlled substance list as of the 9th. Quite unfortunate
 
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