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Loved Up vs. Fucked Up
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And on the same topic as my last post, if you are concerned about getting a speed bomb (or any other unwanted combinations in a pill for that matter) why not just put together your own ?
Buy a bottle of 100 gel caps from your local chemist for around $10, and mix and match your perfect ingredients. In my experience at least, it is not incredibly hard to just track down (reasonably) pure mdma powder, meth, k, etc.
That way you get exactly what you want to take with few worries about miscellaneous adulterants. It doesn't have to be brightly coloured with a pretty picture to get you off tap !
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Buy a bottle of 100 gel caps from your local chemist for around $10, and mix and match your perfect ingredients. In my experience at least, it is not incredibly hard to just track down (reasonably) pure mdma powder, meth, k, etc.
That way you get exactly what you want to take with few worries about miscellaneous adulterants. It doesn't have to be brightly coloured with a pretty picture to get you off tap !
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KeenSydGuy
Bluelighter
Wow, The timing of this thread! I was just about to start a thread saying something like ppl don't want e anymore they want go.
On NYE i got arsed big time. I got that internal euphoria happening, loved it, was great. I was about 1 of about 10 people sitting out side chatting, every1 else was on the floor all night.
But it got me thinking, what this thread basically says. Most ppl want to buy there $40 e's but really, they want speed. Try tell them they are chargey 70% of the time off a speedy pill and they've got NFI. I had ppl asking me was I "smacky" I told em I had some goooood MDMA(Think it was acutally MDA[blue skys], but yeah...). They didn't get what I meant.
What I'd like is for "e" 2 start again, with every1 trying a good dosage of MDMA, but not too strong. Then let people have go, so they can compaire them. They are killing the market. It's just over 2 years since BT posted this thread (i've JUST READ it NICE WORK!), and things aren't getting any better, but i fear a little worse.
Some people asked me what was I on...i told em, and they go, oh nar i like my pills chargy...People still think MDMA is meant to be charge, this is bad labelling. If this was a commerical product, the marketing department would be fired. I'm personally back on the education bandwagon hardcore, as I don't wanna have to start asking for MDMA in my pills instead of E.
PLUR is dying
I don't know how things are going to change, or if they can, but i'd like to hope that there's still time
--djway
On NYE i got arsed big time. I got that internal euphoria happening, loved it, was great. I was about 1 of about 10 people sitting out side chatting, every1 else was on the floor all night.
But it got me thinking, what this thread basically says. Most ppl want to buy there $40 e's but really, they want speed. Try tell them they are chargey 70% of the time off a speedy pill and they've got NFI. I had ppl asking me was I "smacky" I told em I had some goooood MDMA(Think it was acutally MDA[blue skys], but yeah...). They didn't get what I meant.
What I'd like is for "e" 2 start again, with every1 trying a good dosage of MDMA, but not too strong. Then let people have go, so they can compaire them. They are killing the market. It's just over 2 years since BT posted this thread (i've JUST READ it NICE WORK!), and things aren't getting any better, but i fear a little worse.
Some people asked me what was I on...i told em, and they go, oh nar i like my pills chargy...People still think MDMA is meant to be charge, this is bad labelling. If this was a commerical product, the marketing department would be fired. I'm personally back on the education bandwagon hardcore, as I don't wanna have to start asking for MDMA in my pills instead of E.
PLUR is dying
I don't know how things are going to change, or if they can, but i'd like to hope that there's still time
--djway
That was a well worthy bump too..
PLUR is definetly dying.. and that really sucks, but that's just all the more reason why we should keep the friendly spirit alive and be as nice as possible to as many people as possible, whenever we can.
And as for the trends about ppl and there ill-informeds choices, I don't think that'll ever change..
PLUR is definetly dying.. and that really sucks, but that's just all the more reason why we should keep the friendly spirit alive and be as nice as possible to as many people as possible, whenever we can.
And as for the trends about ppl and there ill-informeds choices, I don't think that'll ever change..
I just have something to say.
Not everyone gets smacked out on their ass by quality MDMA pills. I find quality pills make me loved up but charge hard and maybe sit down for 15 minutes.
Being a recovered meth addict I love to charge hard and maybe it's just a state of mind thing =)
Not everyone gets smacked out on their ass by quality MDMA pills. I find quality pills make me loved up but charge hard and maybe sit down for 15 minutes.
Being a recovered meth addict I love to charge hard and maybe it's just a state of mind thing =)
jakoz
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Damn good bump :D
It'd bizarre... when people tell you that they dont' want 'smack based pills' and you tell them what they really are then....
*cue turning off the listener's hearing*
...they just nod dumbly. And still don't pay one iota of attention to the facts.
But then I suppose it's subjective. People want 'ecstasy'. They therefore expect a pill that will suit them best for the night. And since it's too often a rave, and they're going to spend the night dancing, the stimulants suit them best.
It'd bizarre... when people tell you that they dont' want 'smack based pills' and you tell them what they really are then....
*cue turning off the listener's hearing*
...they just nod dumbly. And still don't pay one iota of attention to the facts.
But then I suppose it's subjective. People want 'ecstasy'. They therefore expect a pill that will suit them best for the night. And since it's too often a rave, and they're going to spend the night dancing, the stimulants suit them best.
Yep, this is a fantastic thread. Is it worth making it sticky? (I assume it's already been archived...) Should be compulsory bedtime reading for all us greenlighters.
Knowing what your 'accessories' should feel like is crucial -- if everybody out there had this info, we'd all be better off (and getting quality products :D ).
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Knowing what your 'accessories' should feel like is crucial -- if everybody out there had this info, we'd all be better off (and getting quality products :D ).
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Before I announce that I have a bone to pick, I want to congratulate BT and the rest of the well-informed people who helped put together this timeless thread packed full of useful information.
Ok now for the bone picking …
Many (certainly not all, but definitely a fair few) BLers possess an elitist attitude towards Greenlighters or people who slip up and say something a bit silly.
There, I’ve said it.
I’ve noticed that most of the time, people on here tend to correct people’s mistakes, or answer their questions in a friendly, patient manner, which is helpful and wise and just plain nice.
But othertimes, people’s attitudes on here are sharp (for lack of a better word) enough to fend anyone off, and certainly a newbie, who incidentally may not be a newbie at all, just a newbie to this site.
So, you say, if they’re a ‘drug veteran’ then why are they asking a silly question?
Let me ask you, Do you forget things? Do you never make mistakes? Do u know EVERYTHING?
My guess is, people reading threads on here may be wondering something, but have been too ‘embarrassed’ to ask. As someone above said- we all have egos, and an anonymous pseudonym doesn’t really help much in feeling inwardly dumb for not having known something with such a simple answer.
People log onto this site to find information to assist them in being a clued- up drug taker. We all want to be safe, and feel safe asking questions, and feel safe in knowing we’ll get the answer we are looking for- not just a vague, aloof, sarcastic response.
I’m just a bit sick of the whole “I’m more hardkore than thou” attitude (that unfortunately exists in all walks of life and isn't exclusive to here, obviously).
This place is a Harm Reduction haven, not a fucking competition.
/end rant.
Ok now for the bone picking …
Many (certainly not all, but definitely a fair few) BLers possess an elitist attitude towards Greenlighters or people who slip up and say something a bit silly.
There, I’ve said it.
I’ve noticed that most of the time, people on here tend to correct people’s mistakes, or answer their questions in a friendly, patient manner, which is helpful and wise and just plain nice.
But othertimes, people’s attitudes on here are sharp (for lack of a better word) enough to fend anyone off, and certainly a newbie, who incidentally may not be a newbie at all, just a newbie to this site.
So, you say, if they’re a ‘drug veteran’ then why are they asking a silly question?
Let me ask you, Do you forget things? Do you never make mistakes? Do u know EVERYTHING?
My guess is, people reading threads on here may be wondering something, but have been too ‘embarrassed’ to ask. As someone above said- we all have egos, and an anonymous pseudonym doesn’t really help much in feeling inwardly dumb for not having known something with such a simple answer.
People log onto this site to find information to assist them in being a clued- up drug taker. We all want to be safe, and feel safe asking questions, and feel safe in knowing we’ll get the answer we are looking for- not just a vague, aloof, sarcastic response.
I’m just a bit sick of the whole “I’m more hardkore than thou” attitude (that unfortunately exists in all walks of life and isn't exclusive to here, obviously).
This place is a Harm Reduction haven, not a fucking competition.
/end rant.
shakra
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Great post BigTrancer.. everything I have always wanted to say and more..
Sydney scene is pretty comparable.. even to those who chose to take drugs in the confines of their homes..
I find more and more friends using the term 'smacky pills' and I too laugh out loud :D
To me, the scariest thing about all of this, is that there is a wealth of information out there.. jump on the net, do a search.. oualah!
Personally, any drug I have chosen to poison my body with, I have done only AFTER sufficient research. This includes prescription drugs.. doctors can make mistakes too!
Bluelight is an excellent resource for nfo, but it is not the ONLY resource.. again.. there is a wealth of info available on the net. Find a good search engine.
So those of you who say you too would probably be out there downing dodgy pills if it weren't for Bluelight are possibly just as ridiculously STUPID!
Perhaps Bluelight could raise it's profile in the scene?? Health/info flyers outside/inside clubs; ad's in industry street mags/gig guides etc..?? (I'd be willing to help distribute in Sydney for a really small price... if it meant educating people to start looking after themselves.)
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shakra
Remember.. if you don't look after YOU.. WHO WILL?
Sydney scene is pretty comparable.. even to those who chose to take drugs in the confines of their homes..
I find more and more friends using the term 'smacky pills' and I too laugh out loud :D
To me, the scariest thing about all of this, is that there is a wealth of information out there.. jump on the net, do a search.. oualah!
Personally, any drug I have chosen to poison my body with, I have done only AFTER sufficient research. This includes prescription drugs.. doctors can make mistakes too!
Bluelight is an excellent resource for nfo, but it is not the ONLY resource.. again.. there is a wealth of info available on the net. Find a good search engine.
So those of you who say you too would probably be out there downing dodgy pills if it weren't for Bluelight are possibly just as ridiculously STUPID!
Perhaps Bluelight could raise it's profile in the scene?? Health/info flyers outside/inside clubs; ad's in industry street mags/gig guides etc..?? (I'd be willing to help distribute in Sydney for a really small price... if it meant educating people to start looking after themselves.)
:D
shakra
Remember.. if you don't look after YOU.. WHO WILL?
Personally, when I head out with whatever is in my pocket, I never know exactly what I am gunna do. If I rave, I rave, if I sit around the chill out room all night, then so be it.
Like many of us, I have had some of the best nights of my life doing both.
I cant help but think that heading out for the night without any preconceived ideas about whether I will be loved up or fucked up makes it all the more adventurous and only adds to the excitement.
PLUR
Like many of us, I have had some of the best nights of my life doing both.
I cant help but think that heading out for the night without any preconceived ideas about whether I will be loved up or fucked up makes it all the more adventurous and only adds to the excitement.
PLUR
sinewriter
Bluelighter
I have found the younger people of the scene seem to like the speedy pills more than the old farts like us that prefer to stagger around hugging and swaying to slower tempo music
I say feed em 100mg of MDMA and send em to the progressive house room :D
I say feed em 100mg of MDMA and send em to the progressive house room :D
thank u for enlightening me. so many ppl i know like the speedy pills. so much so, that even i was sick and tired of shit that put me on my ass.
now i realise that thats the good shit. tho u think i am going to extremes wen i am so fucked i can hardly move and i just sit there grinning and all i can say to ppl is 'wow'?
sometimes that shit is good but i DO wanna dance every now and then. especially wen i pay $50 for a ticket to a rave. but other than that nothing beats feeling like u need to be tied to the ground cos ur floating so damn high!!!
now i realise that thats the good shit. tho u think i am going to extremes wen i am so fucked i can hardly move and i just sit there grinning and all i can say to ppl is 'wow'?
sometimes that shit is good but i DO wanna dance every now and then. especially wen i pay $50 for a ticket to a rave. but other than that nothing beats feeling like u need to be tied to the ground cos ur floating so damn high!!!
Mountain Muncher
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This would be some of the most interesting and informing pieces of literature i have ever read! and know on reading this i'd like to add my own little thought.
to me it's all about the music, the people and the drugs. like my grandparents said "it's different strokes for different folks" i can personally say that i am begining to gain expereince in this field, but i don't know much, just how to be safe, and keep friends that way too. sorry way OT, but it'll make sense. now to the point, i was at a rave in sydney and was having a really good night already on two pillls, a friend and i managed to aquire 1 more, which we halved, this pill sent me to another world. 45 mins of sitting down, eyes closed being held..very fucked up,after this was all over the place. danced for the rest of the rave, passed out on the train home. goodnight. i hear you ask, the point? well to me it is clear, whether one is fucked up, loved up, speedy or floating just have fun and do what feels good and right.
Well thats my opinion anyway, BT hope this doesn't wander to far off topic! mountain
to me it's all about the music, the people and the drugs. like my grandparents said "it's different strokes for different folks" i can personally say that i am begining to gain expereince in this field, but i don't know much, just how to be safe, and keep friends that way too. sorry way OT, but it'll make sense. now to the point, i was at a rave in sydney and was having a really good night already on two pillls, a friend and i managed to aquire 1 more, which we halved, this pill sent me to another world. 45 mins of sitting down, eyes closed being held..very fucked up,after this was all over the place. danced for the rest of the rave, passed out on the train home. goodnight. i hear you ask, the point? well to me it is clear, whether one is fucked up, loved up, speedy or floating just have fun and do what feels good and right.
Well thats my opinion anyway, BT hope this doesn't wander to far off topic! mountain
smokin' joe
Bluelighter
Diggin' this read guys!!
I first dropped in june last year. Was a very pure MDMA pill (red maple leaf), I didn't know what to expect. I had done as much research as one could do, and ask as many experienced ppl as I could. Nothing compares to real experience though. I remember thinking "this isn't doing much too me at all". Then I really thought about how I felt, I thought "fuck I'm in an unbelievably good mood". I have before this moment only really ever drunk alchol on a night out, so feeling this good after not drinking a drop was unusual. After realising what the drug was doing to me It seemed to just get better and better. At the peak I was thinking that nothing could possibly break this mood. I was doing the usual hugging and kissing of everyone :D I had no huge eye wobbling or blackouts or full-on rushing, just an amazingly good feeling.
Since, I've had some varied experiences, and I really want that pure MDMA feeling only.
Some of my buddies really disapoint me. We go out and they dont seem happy unless they are completely out of their heads. Some just stand there looking sweaty, pastey white skin, trembling with their hands flexed about as far as they can be. This doesn't look like fun to me. They don't dance, they dont talk, they cant make descisions.
I feel sorry for them that they cant just enjoy 1 good MDMA pill the way I and many of my other friends can. One night at a big rave this dude we know couldn't even step over a pile of empty water bottles after about 6 cookies, he got to it - looked confused - looked back at us - turned around and went back in an attempt to find a different route.
They're constantly on a night out saying "How many you had man?" I say "who cares as long as we're all having fun right". If you tell them you had one or two it's like "What? Aren't you enjoying it? do you wanna go or something?".
When we ask these dudes if they had a good night they usually complain about something - "the music was too slow/fast/loud/soft", "shitty bikkies", "crowd were up themselves", etc etc. The dudes in question are otherwise really great ppl to be around or have a few drinks with.
I don't mind feeling fucked up you know and I'll usually enjoy myself none the less, but give me a clear headed MDMA trip anytime.
I first dropped in june last year. Was a very pure MDMA pill (red maple leaf), I didn't know what to expect. I had done as much research as one could do, and ask as many experienced ppl as I could. Nothing compares to real experience though. I remember thinking "this isn't doing much too me at all". Then I really thought about how I felt, I thought "fuck I'm in an unbelievably good mood". I have before this moment only really ever drunk alchol on a night out, so feeling this good after not drinking a drop was unusual. After realising what the drug was doing to me It seemed to just get better and better. At the peak I was thinking that nothing could possibly break this mood. I was doing the usual hugging and kissing of everyone :D I had no huge eye wobbling or blackouts or full-on rushing, just an amazingly good feeling.
Since, I've had some varied experiences, and I really want that pure MDMA feeling only.
Some of my buddies really disapoint me. We go out and they dont seem happy unless they are completely out of their heads. Some just stand there looking sweaty, pastey white skin, trembling with their hands flexed about as far as they can be. This doesn't look like fun to me. They don't dance, they dont talk, they cant make descisions.
I feel sorry for them that they cant just enjoy 1 good MDMA pill the way I and many of my other friends can. One night at a big rave this dude we know couldn't even step over a pile of empty water bottles after about 6 cookies, he got to it - looked confused - looked back at us - turned around and went back in an attempt to find a different route.
They're constantly on a night out saying "How many you had man?" I say "who cares as long as we're all having fun right". If you tell them you had one or two it's like "What? Aren't you enjoying it? do you wanna go or something?".
When we ask these dudes if they had a good night they usually complain about something - "the music was too slow/fast/loud/soft", "shitty bikkies", "crowd were up themselves", etc etc. The dudes in question are otherwise really great ppl to be around or have a few drinks with.
I don't mind feeling fucked up you know and I'll usually enjoy myself none the less, but give me a clear headed MDMA trip anytime.
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Elicid
Bluelighter
I much prefer speedy pills because I love the headfuck and can still communicate with people, I only worked this out last weekend when I finally got some pure MDMA pills 'fish', that for the first time gave no speedy effects, I know it makes sense to only want mdma in your pills but hey, I prefer the effects of a bit of meth in there.
BigTrancer
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From my first post:
Like... really... why would you pay anything up to 40 bucks for a speedbomb when the equivalent dollar-amount of speed would give you 3-4 times as much bang for buck?
BigTrancer
Like... really... why would you pay anything up to 40 bucks for a speedbomb when the equivalent dollar-amount of speed would give you 3-4 times as much bang for buck?
BigTrancer
wow, just read this whole thing, and have learnt A LOT!
I'm just a newbie here, I've only rolled 3 times, and the last time was a white heart, which was very 'smackey', but was awesome, i could enjoy it (while others couldnt). Still I would like to get up and dance a bit more... so i might look into some speed.
love bluelight!
I'm just a newbie here, I've only rolled 3 times, and the last time was a white heart, which was very 'smackey', but was awesome, i could enjoy it (while others couldnt). Still I would like to get up and dance a bit more... so i might look into some speed.
love bluelight!
Elicid
Bluelighter
BigTrancer said:From my first post:
Like... really... why would you pay anything up to 40 bucks for a speedbomb when the equivalent dollar-amount of speed would give you 3-4 times as much bang for buck?
BigTrancer
Because the effects of speed and the effects of a speed bomb are different.