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Love E's mild psychedelia, but scared to try candyflipping. What's in between?

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wobbleminge

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Okay, so MDMA is great and the really mild distortions of colour and perception etc are really enjoyable. But candyflipping sounds a bit intense for a newbie. Is there a drug that gives you an experience in between? :D
 
I guess what I mean is, which drug gives you an E-like experience but with more psychedelia, but not so much that you go potty :)
 
JSPete - yeh someone mentioned that to me, and its even legal in the UK. So its not too intense, no?
 
wobbleminge said:
JSPete - yeh someone mentioned that to me, and its even legal in the UK. So its not too intense, no?
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Depends how much you take. People generally seem to love it though. Personally, it's not for me, but it sounds just right for what you're wanting.

It's not as intense as either MDMA or LSD can get. Almost certainly less intense than candyflipping, although like I say it really depends on the size of the doses.
 
Yes, if you try low dose LSD you wouldn't need to candyflip anyway. It's very euphoric (only thing I've had so far that I feel can even rival MDMA in terms of that), much gentler on your body than MDMA (it's stimulating but never overly so), and not too 'headfucky', for want of a better term.

Also aMT is very nice.
 
I've never candyflipped before (Would love to try it though), but I imagine 6-apb would be somewhat similar.
 
2C-B. Or MDMA+2C-B.

I rarely ever take MDMA anymore but when I do I combine with something. If I'm looking for a fun time, 2C-B followed by MDMA as it's coming on does the trick.

It's not as psychedelic as LSD but it adds a lot to the MDMA.
 
All good suggestions! AMT, 2C-B or 2C-B+MDMA.
But before trying the combination probably try 2C-B on its own first. If you like the trippiness of 2C-B you can then move 'up' to stronger 2C psychedelics. More MDMA-like effects are not really possible without adding an empathogen like MDMA to the psychedelic. Unless we leave the family of 2C and look at AMT which is indeed more MDMA-like than 2C-B. But for me it's not that psychedelic, I don't find AMT to go into an LSD-like direction to be honest.
 
i second the idea of jsut going with a low dose LSD. lsd at low doses is quite mild, friendly and euphoric, and is quite controllable. somewhere around 80-100mics is perfect for this.
2cb is nice as well, but for me at least, it retains a lot of the 2c character, which not everyone gets along with easily. that said, it is the friendliest of the 2cs, and though i dont find it that euphoric (streight up euphoria that is) it has a really nice tendency to make everything that little bit better. low doses work wonders for a night out.

aMT.... i think this one is the one with most variability. some like it, some learn to appreciate it, while some jsut dont have a taste for it. it can be very mdmalike in some experiences, or very psychedelic for others.
actually, now that i phrased it like this, it reminds me a bit of what 5-meo-mipt is for some. some find it energetic, euphoric, sexual, while others get really deep into the psychedelic realm on it... hmm, perhaps you can also explore this possiblity? for instance, for me a very low (almost threshold dose) of 5meo-mipt was quite nice for a night out. much energy spent dancing, feelings of connectedness... and though some lack of clarity became apparent later in the trip it was nonetheless enjoyable...

but then again, perhaps you are not looking for such low profile experiences...

guess what im trying to say is, you will proabbly have to read a lot and even try some things out yourself before finding what you are lookign for, seeing how variable things can get

best of luck
 
If you can get your hands on it, the 2C-B is a great suggestion. Otherwise, you might want to try combining MDMA with one of the other 2Cs, such as 2C-I or 2C-E. Just keep in mind that these two substances synergize strongly, producing an effect greater than the sum of the parts. If you decide to go with this route, keep doses low and try to work in one or two solo 2C experiences before you try the combo.
 
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What about just MDA? :) (Though you should head over to Ecstasy Dicussion for questions about MDA, as it belongs there too.)
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That's what I was thinking. What has similar qualities to MDMA but is a bit more psychedelic ... I couldn't think of anything else but MDA!

Seriously though, a low dose of acid would be pretty nice. Low dose of 2c-x (I've only tried 2c-i and 2c-e) would be nice too but that is less euphoric than acid or MDA.
 
2c-b.... Aaahhhhh 2c-b. Blissful, lovey, flowing visuals with a dash of FUCK. Amazing.
 
boardsofcanada said:
I've never candyflipped before (Would love to try it though), but I imagine 6-apb would be somewhat similar.
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I haven't tried 6-apb, but I doubt it!

MDA would be best but it's hard to come by these days. I would say to try smoking weed on top of your E or maybe having a bit of ketamine. They can make weed much more psychedelic.

Beyond that, I'd say a mild, easy going psychedelic like 2C-I or 2C-B.

Candyflipping really is in a league of it's own, and you get out what you put in. You need to do quite a decent dose of LSD to make the flip.

Stick to a milder psychedelic until you're comfortable taking LSD. :)
 
6-APB is an MDA analogue and very similar, so I can understand the comparison, but it doesn't really feel that psychedelic to me at the 150mg dose I tried it at, more on the euphoric/stimulating/empathogenic side, with very very light visuals. Maybe at higher doses it'd fit the bill but with how long it left my stimulated after I came down, pushing the dose higher might not be the best idea ;)
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned 2C-C. Sure, it's more sedating and calm than the other ones here but it is a very gentle, warm, empathogenic and forgiving psychedelic. It just lacks the stimulation the other ones have, although if you move around and just not sit in a chair it's not so sedating. I would think someone who likes MDMA could like it too. If you keep the doses low (~30 mg) you won't have any overwhelming visuals either.

If I were to be the guide and someone trips for the first time, I'd recommend 2C-C for him/her to get a picture of what a psychedelic trip is. Also, if you want to experience real visuals 2C-C has quite nice visuals but then you have to up the dose a bit. It has no headfuck and as long as you stay below 50 mg, the risk for a bad trip is not as high as with stronger and deeper psychedelics.
 
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