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Losing the magic, or is MDMA just getting old?

neMMMM

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So I am very experienced on mdma. I have gone through my binges but always manage to have good rolls up until around a year ago.

As we all know, the east coast scene went to shit around this time. Within the last year I have probably rolled around 6-7 times, with 3 weeks in between at least. These rolls weren't phenominal, and I blamed this on the weak east coast pills (weak g-ladies, transformers). They were tested and I know the difference between mdma/pipes/rcs.

Fast forward to last week. I finally got some good rolls (dutch pills) which contain 130mg mdma. I thought this would the feeling back, but the roll still lacked certain elements.

Yes, I was high. I enjoyed the time and had a lot of fun. I just don't understand how I was still able to read my phone and function half normal even though my pupils were saucers.

I didn't get the "shivers" amazing feeling when you touch/massage. It just lacked things....hard to explain.

My dose was: started with 1 pill, followed up with another an hour later and a half a half hour after that.

Am I losing the magic? The last time I rolled before this was 4 weeks prior.

Do I maybe just need a bigger dose? I thought 130 would be plenty to start.
 
MDMA tolerance/loss of magic can happen pretty quickly. Remember that 30 days is an absolute minimum, with the recommended use being only 3-4 times per year. When i first started, I was on the once every 30-50 day schedule.

However, i found that I enjoyed having fewer, higher quality experiences (with 3.5-4+ month breaks in between) more than rolling more frequently and having a lower quality experience. Taking long breaks helps to prevent loss of magic.
 
Time waited between taking mdma, is the biggest factor in your experience. Well other than having good quality mdma of course!
Remember that the Isomers of mdma differentiate too.
 
I understand but I shouldn't need to double drop 2 130mg pills to get a good roll.

That's 260mg!

I've had great rolls off 150mg followed up by another 100 so I don't understand why these aren't doing the trick.
 
Please don't double drop 130mg pills.
That's too much

Anyway,
Within the last year I have probably rolled around 6-7 times, with 3 weeks in between at least.
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well i was waiting 30 days, that did the trick for a few months then i started to lose duration of mdma experience.
So i changed 2 things:

I dosed once
and i increased wait time to 40 days,

Then months on 50 days
and now 60 days
 
are you sure they are 130mg?
or just heard someone saying that?
in the time I did it a lot we had pills that had 220mg,they were awesome and they were missjudged a few times i seen.
tbh 130 is not that much...
 
Yes, lab tested 120-130mg spread. Maybe I'll try one and a half...although I doubt that's going to significantly increase my experience.

I'm leaning towards sams first response about Isomers. I know MDMA is MDMA but I have heard about this and some say certain mdma is synthd better than others even if they are both pure mdma.

I'm not a chem guy as you can tell hah.
 
There's some notes in PIHKAL about trying the isomers separately. Neither sound particularly interesting when done on their own.
 
yes i also believe that some MDMA is just of better quality and some is poor quality. its all in how well it was synthed. the MDMA you got may have been of poor quality. i am in this exact situation right now. i have some molly that is not the best. i believe it is molly but of very poor quality as the roll is not that great from it. basically, not all molly is created equally.
 
thizzlemonster86 said:
yes i also believe that some MDMA is just of better quality and some is poor quality. its all in how well it was synthed. the MDMA you got may have been of poor quality. i am in this exact situation right now. i have some molly that is not the best. i believe it is molly but of very poor quality as the roll is not that great from it. basically, not all molly is created equally.
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Differently synthed MDMA =/= MDMA cut with other shit
 
You need to dose more. I am aware its not the greatest of harm reduction advice but if you really have lost the magic and dutch goodies are not taking you to the place you need to be then there is no harm in double dropping. That extra 130mg could really hit the sweet spot.

Personally i have definitely lost the magic, i live in the uk there is some fine mdma crystal around. Nice pills, imports from holland too. I never usually dose lower the .5 of nice MD or higher than 0.7g seems alot but if your not getting a nice feeling from the small doses then you either need to do a bit more or just knock it on the head forever.

Stay safe.
 
Before you start dosing more I would take a 90 day break and see what happens.
 
neMMMM said:
Ya I will give that a try. Its just hard when you finally have some nice goodies staring you down.
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Not at all, if you want the best mdma experience, you will easily be able to wait, as you would know that dosing too soon will just be a waste of that precious mdma
 
I actually created a thread about the differences in pure MDMA, thank you sam for bringing up the isomers. Some people flat out disagreed that MDMA varies in purity. I mean beyond cuts and whatnot.

Some more experienced members discussed the different isomers of MDMA and agreed with me. I knew I wasn't crazy XD

As far as making your roll better, I think eating lighter might help. I've found that I roll less hard if I have a lot on my stomach when dropping. I prefer to snack lightly throughout the day of if I can help it along with juices.
 
130 isn't that much I agree. I suggest the next time you roll you drop 1, and a quarter pill or something. I think the extra 30 mg can make all the difference :)
 
I know how you feel OP, I rolled for about 2 years. The first year I went crazy with rolling. Its been about 3 years I don't feel the magic anymore, but I think it might just be the pills in my area. Have you thought about getting a testing kit? And btw there is no way to tell how much mdma is in a pill, even if its molly.
 
pyrodemon915 said:
I know how you feel OP, I rolled for about 2 years. The first year I went crazy with rolling. Its been about 3 years I don't feel the magic anymore, but I think it might just be the pills in my area. Have you thought about getting a testing kit? And btw there is no way to tell how much mdma is in a pill, even if its molly.
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Yes there is. In Holland you can bring your pills to a test center where they tell you exactly how many mg of whatever that pill has in it.

These are tested. 110-130mg mdma.
 
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