Benzos Lorazepam / Zopiclone "Intravenous" From Pill.

[kracked]

OMG OMG I Know the counter-indication of doing this...

But no matter what you say, I'll do it.

I've read many people have done it, everyone always say "you can't shoot benzos becauze they aren't water soluble" but if they aren't how come my nose absorbs them and i DO get an effect, my rear end absorb them real good too.

Sure maybe I won't get the full effect and yeah I'll probably get fillers in my bloodstream... But I've already IV'ed 50 times Morphine and Hydromorphone pills before, I didnt die, and I'm willing to take the risk to stop this craving. I Just shot myself with a 1cc of distilled water 30 minutes ago, the placebo effect got me a mini euphoric rush as I was pushing down the plunger of the seringe in my vein, I also felt slightly happy when I saw dark blood registering in the barrel...

So as a harm reduction forum, tell me how I can get most of it, should I try zopiclone, lorazepam, which is best?

I know water solubility for BOTH is very low, but hell, even if i get 10% in the seringe it'll still be better than shooting water right? Also I'm ready to consider shooting it up in another liquid than water, is there something that is unharmfull for the human body in which lorazepam or zopiclone would dissolve better?

Atm thinking to start off with 1mg Lorazepam, crush it, dissolve it, heat it, filter through q-tip cotton head, and shoot as it's still mid-hot so the few available soluble substance can get in my vein before it precipitates out of the solution and stucks itself in the needle on it's way out.

This makes me wonder, blood solubility?

I'll be doing this tonight so you have about 12 hours to help me not die from not having enough information.

 

[Venrak]

I'll be doing this tonight so you have about 12 hours to help me not die from not having enough information.

All harm caused to you during this very unwise act is solely your fault. You will not succeed in shifting the blame on to us, or anyone else.

 

[kracked]

Not my point, sorry about the bad formulation, just wanted to say all posts above 12 hours from now are useless.

 

[mrflowers00]

you wont even get 10% of the lorazepam in the syringe more like .5%

 

[kracked]

I found out using propylene glycol I can dissolve the lorazepam and shoot myself with it, so I think that's what I'll be doing. I'll start a search on google on where to find propylene glycol...

Anyone know if by using this solvent I'll be getting even more fillers in the shot, of the fillers of the lorazepam are insoluble in propylene glycol, which would be great... and how much MG of lorazepam i can dissolve in a 1cc insulin seringe (100 units) -> That's 1 ml right?

 

[effie]

I don't know about the solubility of it in prolylene glycol I'm afraid but it definitely is a better choice than water - solubility of benzos in water...

And yeah, 1cc = 100 units = 1ml

I know you won't listen, but I'm going to say it anyway for everyone else reading - IVing benzos is pretty much pointless due to their high oral bioavailabilities.. I know you're going to do it anyway but I felt I couldn't post without reiterating that

 

[SUB SHOOTER 2010]

Ive never IVed a benzo before but my friend used to shoot bars a lot and he would swear it fucked him up.

 

[kracked]

Yes than you effie, but I have a penchant for needles, are you sure like hell "PROPYLENE GLYCOL" is not toxic for my body???

How many "ml" should I use to dissolve lets say... 2mg Lorazepam, should be good for a first time?

Or maybe I should start with Zopiclone, which one has the least risks of causing damage?

So.. in a couple more hours, I'm thinking about this...


Crush 2mg Lorazepam in fine powder;
Put powder in a sterile spoon;
Calculate 50 units of "Propylene Glycol"; |OR| Calculate 30 units of "Propylene Glycol" and 50 units of sterile distilled water;
Mix with the orange cap of the sterile uncapped needle;
-I WILL NOT HEAT THE SOLUTION-
Use a q-tip cotton head and compress it then drop it into the spoon, in the center of the solution;
Syphon up the solution through the sterile seringe;
Use all hygiène precautions neccessary in any IV Methods;
Find a proper vein and inject.

I know Benzos don't create a rush, But I'm pretty sure I've heard stories about "heterosexual" males "flirting" with female nurses with 5mg Diazepam IV (which is the equivalent to 0.5mg Lorazepam, but probably doesnt have the same effects)

So will I fall asleep like a tranquilizer? If so I might try 1mg then.

Please help me with the propylene glycol, how much i put in, do i filter it, do i mix it with water, etc.

 

[effie]

I'm sure. It's used by hospitals for IV diazepam, lorazepam etc.. and I understand about needle fixations. Just want you to be aware of the risks vs the benefits before you go ahead, HR and all that

Read about propylene glycol for yourself here and also check the list of uses

Note: This is NOT the same as ethylene glycol (antifreeze) !

I really don't know about the propylene glycol, how much, mixing etc, I'm sorry.. it's not something I have ever done myself, but in terms of filtering, treat it like water (although actually perhaps not, see link below..)

In general if you're shooting pills you really should use a micron filter to prevent particles from building up in your lungs and causing pneumoconiosis.

I'd imagine you'll have the same effects as oral, only a little more intense and it will hit you harder. Start low, just in case..

edit: Just found this thread... also the thread I linked earlier on benzodiazepine solubility in water discusses propylene glycol. Some people mention a mixture, some don't, but I am definitely out of my depth here - I know it is a safe solvent for non water-soluble drugs but that is about the extent of my knowledge I'm afraid...

 

[whatsup73]

Please make sure you fully read and do your research before trying something like this.. Dont just jump into it.

 

[Oxide]

Do not inject benzodiazepines. Especially if you do not know what you're doing. The risks aren't worth it, and you really can't beat the sky high oral BA.

period.

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